can't shift into 1st or 2nd

[geobas]

It's all a matter of aesthetics, a KLR on the sidestand specially when loaded with camping gear looks like a drunk getting ready to fall. George Escondido, CA chris wrote:

> > pros or cons of a centerstand anyone? looking for opinions. > >

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[Andrus Chesley]

Can't think of being without one. Swapped to grade 8 bolts. No problems yet after about 2 or 3 years of them being on. Course, I'm not trying to Enduro, race, or jump things with it. Just plonking about on different trails at my Older person pace. .. Andy in Louisiana

[LD]

When I got my KLR, I really thought I had to have a centerstand but read somewhere I should ride without it for a few months to see if I really needed it. I waited and am glad I did as I've decided that while at times it might be convenient, the pros don't outweigh the cons for me. At home, I use a couple of cheap jack stands to set the bike on. On the road, I make do. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:19:37 -0000 "chris" writes:

> pros or cons of a centerstand anyone? looking for opinions.

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Chris, Since you're local to me in Rapid City you can come over and check out my centerstand if you'd like. I also probably have a lead on a used but probably as good as new stand that the local owner would be willing to sell for a reasonable price. He added one of my kicker feet to it so it's easier to use. He sold his KLR for a Wee-Strom as he couldn't stand the pain he got from the seating position on the KLR. That stuff happens to a guy when he's in his mid 70's. Cons: -Reduces ground clearance -Adds weight -Sometimes flops/bangs when in rough terrain -Can get caught by rocks etc and rip off a footpeg -Must be removed for rear suspension linkage maintenance if zerks aren't installed -Almost impossible for many people to use if not modified with a kicker foot Pros: -Keeps bike vertical for maintenance and storage -Allows for easier chain maintenance and tire changing -Allows for repeatable bike orientation for oil level inspection -Adds value?? to the bike if you are selling it For the riding I do the Pros out weigh the Cons. Yup, I know that's hard to believe but I don't usually take the KLR into seriously rough terrain or areas I need 100% ground clearance. A low profile drain plug is also a good idea for folks that are concerned with this issue. I've stripped one bolt on a footpeg after the Great Divide Ride in 2004. I replaced all my footpeg bolts with M10s and haven't had any more problems. I'm not worried about weight as if I want to remove a few pounds from my KLR I could go on a diet with better results. The flopping and banging doesn't happen often and doesn't bother me when it does. I also modified my centerstand and probably 7 others with a kicker foot so using the centerstand is easy even for a little guy like me. Let me know if you want to take a look at my centerstand or find out more about that local one I'm pretty sure I've got a good lead on. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "chris" wrote: > > pros or cons of a centerstand anyone? looking for opinions. > Cons: > > Take up ground clearance > Hard on footpeg bolts > Not necessary > > Pros: > ?

Pros: Makes it a lot easier to lube your chain, either when you're on the road or when you just finished riding offroad and want to squirt the chain with enough WD-40 to get all the dirt and gunk off of it. Makes it easier to change tires, especially the rear tire, because you don't have to get the lift out. Cons: Besides the ones you mentioned, centerstands are tire size sensitive. Tall tires like a Kenda 270 may make the centerstand too short. Short tires like a Kenda 761 may make the centerstand too tall. A too-short centerstand is not useful, a too tall centerstand is almost impossible to get the bike up onto because of the angle between the footpeg mounts and the centerstand contact patch (which has to be in a specific place in order to properly balance the bike).

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: SNIPed > > Cons: Besides the ones you mentioned, centerstands are tire size > sensitive. Tall tires like a Kenda 270 may make the centerstand too > short. Short tires like a Kenda 761 may make the centerstand too tall. > A too-short centerstand is not useful, a too tall centerstand is > almost impossible to get the bike up onto because of the angle between > the footpeg mounts and the centerstand contact patch (which has to be > in a specific place in order to properly balance the bike). > For that painful experience using a centerstand without the foot kicker, roll the bike up on a 2X6, 2X10 scrap and then put the centerstand down in contact with the floor. Place one hand on the left handle bar, one on the footpeg. Lift in a 30-40 degree (off of vertical) motion to the rear. Using the board, you will have decreased the lift/angle/interface by 1.5 inches, and then will only take a small effort to make the bike go up on the stand. You can also use the weight of the bike and gravity to help do the lift by letting the bike roll off the board as you lift. If done just right, the rolling motion of the bike going backwards off the board will help put the bike on the centerstand. It may/will seem awkward the first time you do it but should be easy on the 2-3d try. For those that don't like the centerstand, I have given them another explanation/reason they don't like the stand. It can be painful without the kicker to assist the lift. For those who want a c-stand, an explanation of how to make the stand easier to use. (shrug). revmaaatin.

[Rick]

The wife and I are riding two lowered KLR's south of the border. We ve been on the road since January in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador,Honduras, Belize and now we re in Zacatecas, Mexico and will be heading back to the U.S. next Monday. Most of our riding is pavement but we ve had occasion where we rode 100+ miles of dirt one day. Even lowered, and our bikes do bottom out occasionally, I wouldn t want to ride without them. The ease of chain maintenance, chain adjustment, changing a flat and etc. make it a valuable assest for our type of riding.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, LD wrote: > > When I got my KLR, I really thought I had to have a centerstand but read somewhere I should ride without it > for a few months to see if I really needed it. I waited and am glad I did as I've decided that while at times it might be convenient, the pros don't outweigh the cons for me. At home, I use a couple of cheap jack stands to set the bike on. On the road, I make do. > > > --------------------------------- > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[kestrelfal]

How 'bout a frame-mounted mini winch to pull the CS forward? Fred

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "chris" wrote: > > > pros or cons of a centerstand anyone? looking for opinions. > > Cons: > > > > Take up ground clearance > > Hard on footpeg bolts > > Not necessary > > > > Pros: > > ? > > Pros: Makes it a lot easier to lube your chain, either when you're on > the road or when you just finished riding offroad and want to squirt > the chain with enough WD-40 to get all the dirt and gunk off of it. > Makes it easier to change tires, especially the rear tire, because you > don't have to get the lift out. > > Cons: Besides the ones you mentioned, centerstands are tire size > sensitive. Tall tires like a Kenda 270 may make the centerstand too > short. Short tires like a Kenda 761 may make the centerstand too tall. > A too-short centerstand is not useful, a too tall centerstand is > almost impossible to get the bike up onto because of the angle between > the footpeg mounts and the centerstand contact patch (which has to be > in a specific place in order to properly balance the bike). >

[jamiswolfe]

Howdy guys, I love centerstands and can't imagine life without one unless...you add a sidecar in which case you don't need one. And just in case anyone is in need, I just listed the stuff I removed from my KLR when I added the sidecar. Centerstand, highway pegs, oem kickstand, useable stock skidplate and the notorious helmet lock (I've got a trunk now). Just do an eBay search and you'll find them. On the suspension trouble I was having after adding the sidecar, I decided to use Eagle raising links and a new shock unit I found on eBay. If that's still too weak I'll get a heavier spring and go on a diet. Don't have the stuff installed yet but I'm hopeful it will firm things up enough for my heft. James

[Kelly Cash]

Fred Hink wrote:

> The shift lever has threads in only one half of the clamp part. Your > bolt could be tight because it was started in the treaded part first.

*laugh* No, I did have the bolt the right way.

> Make sure the head of the bolt is facing up on the top part of the clamp > starting in the untreaded half of the clamp. If the head of the bolt is > facing up then check to see if there is any gap left in the clamp. If > not then you can open up this gap by squeezing together the clamp in a > vice and using a hacksaw to cut open this gap.

I thought of that and I'm able to do it (I have a machine shop), but some of the splines inside have worn off. I'll be talking to Dual Star tomorrow regarding the defective shifter.

> Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com>

Thanks, Fred! -K ================================================================ Kelly Cash Email: kelly@... Web: http://www.the-clearing.org ================================================================