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[wiselp]

This is a great idea. I think it is important to always carry the "10 essentials" with you no matter what you are doing: Map and compass (and know how to use them) Water (including filter or purification tablets) Emergency food First aid kit (including personal medication) Flashlight and/or headlamp (including spare bulb and batteries) Necessary clothing rain/wind protection extra shoe laces Pocket knife or multi-purpose tool KLR650 Pencil and paper Large plastic trash bag (33-gallon) or emergency "space" blanket (to serve as emergency rain protection, emergency shelter) Signaling device (whistle)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, ken.wheeler@... wrote: > > Excellent list! > To this I would think of adding the equivalent of what my son's Scout Troop called a "walkabout kit". The idea is that it is built and kept with you, hopefully to never be used, whenever you are at the edge of intense civilization or beyond. I'm thinking of a small Pel case, Velcroed to the bike very securely, packed tight with items I'd want if stranded. This would vary by area, of course, but some items, I would think, would be universal like a space blanket, waterproof matches, a pocket knife, high energy & storable compact food (honey, well sealed & washed to remove smell?), a fish line & hooks in a film cannister, water purification provision, signal mirror(?) and sunblock. Maybe a polypro watch cap; small, warm & good padding during storage. > Any thoughts? > Ken > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "wiselp" > > I am fairly new to the wonderful world of KLR's, but I have spent a > > fair share of my time camping. Here are some of the things I find > > indispensable: > > > Etc. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:46 PM, Jud Jones wrote:

> Cut the top off an aluminum beer can and fill it > abot a third to a half full of gasoline. Build your fire around it, > and light it. The "desert > candle" will burn for long enough to get anything going, even wet > wood.

Now that's a dang handy tip, Jud! I'll have to try that the next time I go car camping (I don't carry beer cans when hiking!). -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arden Kysely]

I have the original MSR XGK. It's a great stove, but heavy and bulky. The new ones are probably better, but unless you're heading to Everest, I'd recommend the Whisperlite International multi-fuel model- -cheaper, lighter, and more compact. MSR liquid fuel stoves have the benefit of using the fuel container as the stove reservoir--no need to 'fill' the stove. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Neil Doane wrote: > > * Jim Priest (klr650@...), on [03-19-07 12:18], wrote: > > On 3/19/07, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > at bringing your own stove fuel? I look at the the 500ml fuel bottle > > > > Don't they make stoves that run of unleaded gas? That would seem ideal > > on the KLR since you usually have gas to spare... That said - I > > haven't done much bike camping but would like to do more... > > MSR has one that I've heard will burn just about anything combustable: > http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/xgk.asp > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > Does anyone use a cot or hammock to sleep in? Last few times I slept > > on the ground - even with a Thermarest - my bones were creakin the > > next morning I've seen some neat hammock/tents but they of course > > depend on trees being present... > > > > Jim > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Arden Kysely]

I just started a fire that way last weekend. Put about 1/4" of stove fuel in a can that was already in the fire pit, threw some sticks in the can, built up a firewood structure, and dropped in a match. Back in my desert racing days we'd throw some 2x4s in a pile, dump some gas out of the Jerry can, strike a match and throw it. Whoooosh...instant bonfire! __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > Just depends on how you use the gasoline. Cut the top off an aluminum beer can and fill it > abot a third to a half full of gasoline. Build your fire around it, and light it. The "desert > candle" will burn for long enough to get anything going, even wet wood. Much better than > just dousing wood with gasoline, less chance of big flareups (unless you kick it over). >

[fasteddiecopeman]

> Don't they make stoves that run of unleaded gas? That would seem ideal > on the KLR since you usually have gas to spare... That said - I > haven't done much bike camping but would like to do more...

Yes - I have one but it's back in Canada so I can't tell the brand, but BELIEVE it's a Coleman, cost around $80. Ed

[Neil Doane]

Think of it as camping farkle. Neil * wiselp (lo@...), on [03-20-07 04:13], wrote:

> Ah, a bargain at any price. When I want to shave weight, the first > place I look to is my spork!! > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Neil Doane wrote: > > > > * wiselp (lo@...), on [03-19-07 05:27], wrote: > > > 4) Cooking gear. Doesn't need to be fancy, but the lighter the > > > better, I guess. I think you could easily go to K-Mart and pick up > > > something like Coleman. All you really need is a small pot, plate, > > > utensils and cup. > > > > Two words: titanium spork. > > > http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=4884577 > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:

> Everest, I'd recommend the [MSR] Whisperlite International

multi-fuel model-

> -cheaper, lighter, and more compact.

Whisperlites have two problems: 1) cannot simmer, and 2) fragile plastic pump. I have a Brunton Optimus Nova which solves both those problems, but that appears to have been discontinued in favor of an even more expensive model. That said, unless I'm doing a transcontinental trip, I'm going to use my little Snow Peak isobutane stove, which weighs 2.7 ounces, fits (with its canister) into my pot, and is point-and-click (has a little igniter button to light it). After all, I really don't cook a lot on my KLR. The nice thing about a KLR is mobility -- i.e., for most meals I'm going to ride someplace that serves food already cooked, or at least has sandwiches and such! All I use a stove for is heating up the water for my morning coffee (2tsp of instant + 1 pouch hot chocolate, only way I can stand instant). No need to go overkill for that! For the pot, I use a Snow Peak ti-cup, but before I spent the money on that I just used a Wal-mart stainless steel camping cup with the folding handles (6 ounces weight, holds around a pint of water), it's slightly smaller but remember, I'm just heating up coffee or 16oz of water for a "personal" size freeze dried meal (blech! I try to avoid that!). Pouch tuna and hard stick pretzels make a great way to avoid freeze dried for the occasional trail meal where getting the stove out would be too much trouble, as do mil-surplus MRE's. MRE's are heavy but compact (at least if you take them out of their packaging and just stuff the pouches and individual components into crannies of your luggage), so while I won't carry more than one or two while backpacking, carrying a few entre's plus their heaters while motorcycle camping in case you find yourself too far from a fresh-cooked meal is just a couple pounds, no big deal. Spoon -- A stainless steel tablespoon out of my kitchen is indestructible. I'll skip the ti-spork for now . Rest of my equipment is pretty much the same as my backpacking equipment. (As is the isoobutane stove and ti-cup, for that matter). Kelty Lightyear 3D 25F is light and compact and if it gets colder than that, layer on some clothes and use a bag liner. Because I camp mostly in the desert (low humidity) I use a single-wall tent, a Eureka Zeus EXO2, it is pretty miserable in high humidity though (gets really wet inside, though not where you're sleeping because the mini-flys are set up to keep the moisture above you). I carry big nail stakes on the KLR, the kind that are too heavy to carry when backpacking but work much better than teensy little aluminum or titanium stakes on desert pavement. Thermarest Ultralight 3/4 length sleeping pad works fine for me. Headlight -- I like my Petzl Tikka XP, it is quite bright and it'll use the rechargable AAA NiMH batteries which solves the problem of, "I used these batteries for a few hours on my last camping trip, should I put fresh batteries or try to suck more life out of these?". My backup light is one of those little "pinch" keychain flashlights. I carry a small Leatherman Juice pocket knife/scissors (nice for cutting open pouches of food that get stubborn!), hmm, usual stuff. String. Water treatment tablets (I don't bother with a water filter nowdays, too bulky). A big Nalgene bottle to put water in for treatment. Camelbak for my normal drinking water while riding. Sandals or lightweight trail running shoes for off the bike. Compass, maps. Fire starting stuff (windproof butane lighter, weatherproof matches). First aid kit. A couple of wooden clothes pins (useful for hanging up socks to dry). Some biodegradable liquid soap, useful for washing your hair after a hot day of riding to reduce the barf factor that builds up on the inside of your helmet over a long trip, also useful when you find a campground with showers. Etc. Most of this stuff lives in my backpack 24/7 and so I don't even notice it anymore other than to refill stuff that's been used up. Clothes - very personal choice here. And of course this isn't talking about the tool box or spares or etc. for the motorcycle. Just the camping gear. About the only difference is that, on the bike, I carry different socks (long boot socks) and use the liner of my jacket as one of my layers to keep warm (dumping one layer that usually lives in the pack). One thing I just got for backpacking is an ultralight silnylon tent. It is much more compact than the Eureka tent. I'm debating whether to use it for my next motorized camping trip. It's definitely less roomy than the Eureka, though on my last backpacking trip it was plenty room. I didn't mention it above though because it is very specialized and quite expensive and frankly not necessary. Eureka dome tents are pretty good, and not very expensive, and are freestanding, handy on desert pavement. Just if you get a double-wall one because you're in a damp climate, get one with a full fly, not one of those with a "beak" -- the wind catches the "beak" and sends it flying. The extra weight and bulk is worth it. _E

[John]

Jet Boil make a great little stove. Runs off little butane cylinders, very quick to heat. You can cook soup, stew, boil water etc. I did about 12 nights camping last year on one small cylinder, made 2x3 cups of tea a day, plus cooked up stew and soup on about half of my nights camping. Built-in ignitor and works well when the wind is blowing. Not cheap, but as others have said, with good sleeping bags and tents you get what you pay for. www.jetboil.com --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John]

One other rule of thumb for camping, like many others I like to travel light, Ortlieb saddle bags, dry sack etc. I always try and delete one piece of gear after each trip, or find a lighter smaller substitute, while still keeping a minimum of comfort. You'll be amazed what you take but never use, other than some piece of emergency gear-hopefully! --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jean luc ascencio]

The inventor of the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, Arthur Davidson, died and went to heaven. At the gates, St. Peter told Arthur. "Since you've been such a good man and your motorcycles have changed the world, your reward is, you can hang out with anyone you want to in heaven." Arthur thought about it for a minute and then said, "I want to hang out with God." St. Peter took Arthur to the Throne Room, and introduced him to God. God recognized Arthur and commented, "Okay, so you were the one who invented the Harley-Davidson motorcycle?" Arthur said, "Yeah, that's me...." God commented: "Well, what's the big deal in inventing something that's pretty unstable, makes noise and pollution and can't run without a road?" Arthur was apparently embarrassed, but finally spoke, "Excuse me, but aren't you the inventor of woman?" God said, " Ah, yes." "Well ," said Arthur, "professional to professional, you have some major design flaws in your invention: 1. There's too much inconsistency in the front-end protrusion 2. It chatters constantly at high speeds 3. Most rear ends are too soft and wobble too much 4. The intake is placed way too close to the exhaust 5. The maintenance costs are outrageous!!!! "Hmmmmm, you may have some good points there," replied God, "hold on." God went to his Celestial supercomputer, typed in a few words and waited for the results. The computer printed out a slip of paper and God read it. Well, it may be true that my invention is flawed," God said to Arthur, "but according to these numbers, more men are riding my invention than yours." "Have A Nice Day" --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]