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[Moose]

In a life saving pinch...the KLR carries a decent amount of insta-fire, just add spark. In my younger days of bike camping in California, we would disconnect a line and get about 1 tsp of fuel out of a bike to get a fire started. But again, that's in a pinch... Moose Neil Doane wrote: * Jeff Saline (salinej1@...), on [03-19-07 13:44], wrote:

> Neil, > > The air pump in the Eddie Bauer air mattress is really self contained. > As in it's part of the mattress. So no using it to crank up a fire. But > that's one heck of an idea.

Ah, my bad. The way it was described with the 4D-sized batteries made me think maybe it was something like the one I use. http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5999E300

> If you're in the Black Hills please be > especially careful with this idea and fires in general. We're having > another very dry year and the fire danger is extremely high. Most of the > time I'm on a trip I don't do fires just because of the fire danger.

I live in Colorado, so I'm sure we share the same wariness of open flames. As with all campfires, everyone please use your head! That said, if you're camping and can safely have a campfire, try one of these pumps and you'll be amazed. Works in fireplaces too! Neil --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Neil Doane]

* David Giuliani (foolstools@...), on [03-19-07 15:17], wrote:

> I thought "white gas" is simply unleaded gas. > At least, that's what it was called forty years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha Neil

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:09:20 -0000 "Arden Kysely" > > writes: > > > Jeff, > > > You'll carry a 9-pound tent and a pump with 4 D batteries, but balk > > > > > > at bringing your own stove fuel? I look at the the 500ml fuel bottle > > > > > > for my MSR Whisperlite as my 'final reserve tank' for the KLR. > > > Modern, spacious 2-man tents that weigh less than 6 pounds can be > > > had > > > for $100-$200, and a little lung power fills my air mattress. I > > > guess > > > we all have our own ways to assemble a compact, lightweight, > > > comfortable, bug-and-rain-free camp that lets us heat up soup at > > > night and make coffee in the morning. One thing I've been > > > experimenting with for basic water heating is an alcohol stove. You > > > > > > can make your own (Google 'cat stove' or 'alcohol backpack stove' or > > > > > > buy one from eBay). They weigh only an ounce or two and work pretty > > > > > > well if your keep your cooking simple. > > > > > > Happy Camping! > > > > > > __Arden > > <><><><><><><><><> > > <><><><><><><><><> > > > > Arden, > > > > I started laughing at your opening comment. : ) I'm not making a > > compact or light camp when using the KLR. It's a lot more compact and > > lightweight than if I'm using my Jeep... but I decided I don't need to > > make it like I would if I was carrying it on my back. And it works > great > > for me in the environment I take my KLR. > > > > The reason I don't want to carry extra fuel is I don't use much fuel > so I > > can usually get some easily and never run out. On the GDR Bill > filled my > > stove when he had to leave so he carried the extra fuel. On De Tour I > > got fuel at Moab. In both cases that was enough for the entire trip. I > > don't cook a lot but did enjoy tea and a few hot meals. I kind of > > decided that that takes up room I'd rather use for a tent, air mattress > > with compressor and batteries etc. If I was going to need fuel I'd > buy a > > small MSR??? type container that I suppose holds about 2 cups of fuel. > > And I'd wrap it in two zip lock bags lined with a paper towel. I don't > > like fuel spills and speak from experience. On a side note: I really > > monitor my fuel situation for the environment I'm in. I can't imagine > > letting myself get in a situation where I was willing to run white > gas in > > my engine especially when it wouldn't be diluted by a bit of regular > > fuel. Now I'd probably let you have my stove fuel for your bike if you > > wanted it but not if you were riding with me. Fuel consumption is > pretty > > easy to calculate so I don't have much pity on folks that run out. I > > have even less empathy for folks that put inappropriate chemicals in > > machines causing damage. > > > > Oh, my tent doesn't weigh 9 pounds but I think that's the upper > limit I'd > > use for shopping for a tent. I put packed and set up size higher on my > > list than weight. Since the tent would be used for more than just > > motorcycle adventures it would have to be comfortable enough when > housing > > two on an adventure and that means lots more stuff if it's housing two. > > : ) > > > > And the air mattress. Well, the air mattress is so comfortable I'd > > probably give up some clothes if needed just to have it along. And > since > > I don't take much in the way of clothes that would just about mean > taking > > only the clothes I was wearing while riding. > > > > One item I forgot to add to the camping gear list is a towel. I use a > > towel bought in the automotive section of Wally World. It's pretty > small > > (maybe 15" x 24"), comes in a plastic tube and is used for drying > > vehicles after washing them. I don't wash or dry vehicles very > often but > > it's great at a campground shower for getting me really really dry. And > > when you do laundry like underwear and socks you can roll them in the > > towel and suck most of the moisture from them. When you wring that > towel > > dry it's very very dry. It also is pretty light and doesn't take up > much > > room. That's another item I wouldn't want to travel without. > > > > So... yup, nice tent and air mattress before extra fuel in most cases. > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Jim Priest]

On 3/19/07, Moose wrote:

> In a life saving pinch...the KLR carries a decent amount of insta-fire, just add spark. In my younger days of bike camping in California, we would disconnect a line and get about 1 tsp of fuel out of a bike to get a fire started. But again, that's in a pinch...

You crazy Califonians Growing up in NC - we'd save about 1 tsp to ride home on - and throw the rest in the fire. POOF... Goodbye eyebrows! Jim

[one_moon_adv]

For a great stove, try this. The forest is your fuel, natural and organic! http://www.zzstove.com/ jb

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Neil Doane wrote: > > * Jim Priest (klr650@...), on [03-19-07 12:18], wrote: > > On 3/19/07, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > at bringing your own stove fuel? I look at the the 500ml fuel bottle > > > > Don't they make stoves that run of unleaded gas? That would seem ideal > > on the KLR since you usually have gas to spare... That said - I > > haven't done much bike camping but would like to do more... > > MSR has one that I've heard will burn just about anything combustable: > http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/xgk.asp > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > Does anyone use a cot or hammock to sleep in? Last few times I slept > > on the ground - even with a Thermarest - my bones were creakin the > > next morning I've seen some neat hammock/tents but they of course > > depend on trees being present... > > > > Jim > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Ronald Criswell]

A candle or one of those fire starter sticks work a lot better than gasoline especially with wet wood. My wife and I were camping once close to Telluride before the rich boys discovered it. She poured musta been a gallon or two on some wet Aspen wood. KAABOOM! A small mushroom cloud emerged along with all the RV camper dudes. The fire went out in about 5 minutes. At the same camp spot a few years later we got a fire going of the same kind of wood using either a candle or fire starter stick (and it was raining). You might hurt yourself with gasoline. I know a kid missing an ear because of a unintentional gasoline flash fire. Criswell

On Mar 19, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Moose wrote: > In a life saving pinch...the KLR carries a decent amount of insta- > fire, just add spark. In my younger days of bike camping in > California, we would disconnect a line and get about 1 tsp of fuel > out of a bike to get a fire started. But again, that's in a pinch... > > Moose > > Neil Doane wrote: > * Jeff Saline (salinej1@...), on [03-19-07 13:44], wrote: > > Neil, > > > > The air pump in the Eddie Bauer air mattress is really self > contained. > > As in it's part of the mattress. So no using it to crank up a > fire. But > > that's one heck of an idea. > > Ah, my bad. The way it was described with the 4D-sized batteries > made me > think maybe it was something like the one I use. > http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp? > product_id=5999E300 > > > If you're in the Black Hills please be > > especially careful with this idea and fires in general. We're having > > another very dry year and the fire danger is extremely high. Most > of the > > time I'm on a trip I don't do fires just because of the fire danger. > > I live in Colorado, so I'm sure we share the same wariness of open > flames. > As with all campfires, everyone please use your head! That said, if > you're > camping and can safely have a campfire, try one of these pumps and > you'll be > amazed. Works in fireplaces too! > > Neil > > --------------------------------- > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim]

Sometimes when I get into planning something, I tend to go overboard with the planning. For my bike camping plans, this led me to planning out all the food prep. supplies I would need for camping. Fortunately, this time my planning kept going beyond that, to the point of planning out an imaginary trip so I could think of everything I should bring. With my riding style, I like to travel roads and mild trails, and here in New England, I would never be THAT far from civilization. So near the end of each day I could stop at a mini mart and get a prepared meal. Nothing fancy of course, but even getting a sandwich and a couple snacks for the evening and a muffin or a couple donuts for the morning would save me from having to carry many pounds of cooking gear. This has always worked on my overnight 4x4 trips, and I wasn't nearly as concerned about the room for cooking gear in my Jeep! A bonus is that less time is wasted doing the actual cooking and washing pans. Jim --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:

> > For me, rule #1 when camping is to not eat anything that needs to be > prepared on the trail. No stove, no fuel, no forks, no pots, no pans, > just Power Bars, Jerky, dried fruit, granola bars, and anything else > that can go right from a package to my mouth without wasted time, space > or energy preparing, cleaning, packing, etc. I suppose it would be > different if I were catching my own food but since I'm not, I don't see > the need to make extra work with food preparation when I'm out trying to > have fun. > > Mike A18 > >

[LD]

(Does anyone use a cot or hammock to sleep in? Last few times I slept on the ground - even with a Thermarest - my bones were creakin the next morning I've seen some neat hammock/tents but they of course depend on trees being present... Jim I don't tolerate sleeping on the ground , even on an air mattress, like I used to. When I car or boat camp, I pack a Eureka T4 tent and a cot. I didn't want to pack so much on the KLR so last spring I bought a Hennessy Hammock. I like it quite a bit for it's comfort and for it's packability and the fact that it can be used in multiple ways to provide seating, sleeping, shade, etc. Check out the Hennessy Hammock website and you'll find a lot of truthful reading material on it. Don't know that I'd want to travel the world with one, but here in Minnesota and Wisconsin, there's always trees to tie up to. The biggest downfall is that hammock tents can be much colder than regular tents due to the fact that your sleeping bag compresses against the fabric leaving not much insulation between your bottom side and the cold. I sleep warm and comfortable as long as it's above 50 degrees. Anything lower than 50 and I'd pack a traditional tent. As for a stove, I made a alcohol stove out of a beer can. (Google "penny stove") Works just fine with Everclear grain alcohol, and you can use the alcohol for "medicinal purposes" if needed! As for all the other misc. camp gear, I agree with what's been said by others, though my choice of camp shoes for this part of the country are flip-flops or Tevas. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091

[Erik]

> (Does anyone use a cot or hammock to sleep in? Last > few times I slept on the ground - even with a > Thermarest - my bones were creakin the > next morning I've seen some neat hammock/tents but > they of course > depend on trees being present... Jim > > I don't tolerate sleeping on the ground , even on an > air mattress, like I used to. When I car or boat camp, > I pack a Eureka T4 tent and a cot. I didn't want to > pack so much on the KLR so last spring I bought a > Hennessy Hammock. I like it quite a bit for it's

I have a luxury lite cot and love it : http://www.luxurylite.com/cotindex It's more BMW than KLR priced, but given the hatred I'd started to develop for my thermarest it seemed worth it. I've used it for on hiking and car camping, and slept on it for a week straight. It's -very- comfortable, and packs down to no bigger or heavier than a thermarest. erik

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:

> > A candle or one of those fire starter sticks work a lot better than > gasoline especially with wet wood. My wife and I were camping once > close to Telluride before the rich boys discovered it. She poured > musta been a gallon or two on some wet Aspen wood. KAABOOM! A small > mushroom cloud emerged along with all the RV camper dudes. The fire > went out in about 5 minutes. At the same camp spot a few years later > we got a fire going of the same kind of wood using either a candle or > fire starter stick (and it was raining). You might hurt yourself with > gasoline. I know a kid missing an ear because of a unintentional > gasoline flash fire. > > Criswell

Just depends on how you use the gasoline. Cut the top off an aluminum beer can and fill it abot a third to a half full of gasoline. Build your fire around it, and light it. The "desert candle" will burn for long enough to get anything going, even wet wood. Much better than just dousing wood with gasoline, less chance of big flareups (unless you kick it over).

[wiselp]

Ah, a bargain at any price. When I want to shave weight, the first place I look to is my spork!!

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Neil Doane wrote: > > * wiselp (lo@...), on [03-19-07 05:27], wrote: > > 4) Cooking gear. Doesn't need to be fancy, but the lighter the > > better, I guess. I think you could easily go to K-Mart and pick up > > something like Coleman. All you really need is a small pot, plate, > > utensils and cup. > > Two words: titanium spork. > http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=4884577 > > > > Neil >