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[Dennis Shell]

Sorry if my post was misconstrued, I am not trying to drum up business but I have access to heavy duty materials and the machine to handle them. If someone wanted to make a list of tools that any KLR rider should have I was willing to help out. Pay for materials and buy me a cup of coffee if I get into your neck of the woods. Does this qualify as a vender post? Happy holidays all, Dennis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 5:40 PM -0700 12/21/06, Dennis Shell wrote:

>Sorry if my post was misconstrued, I am not trying to drum up >business but I have access to heavy duty materials and the machine >to handle them. If someone wanted to make a list of tools that any >KLR rider should have I was willing to help out. Pay for materials >and buy me a cup of coffee if I get into your neck of the woods. >Does this qualify as a vender post? Happy holidays all, Dennis

Nah, I'd call this a "righteous dude post." My roll is simple. It's a strip about 20" wide with 4" folded hems that serve as pockets along both long edges. My pockets are random widths from 1" to 2 1/2" wide and there are about a dozen pockets on each edge along the 18" length of the unrolled roll. The roll secures with a 3" wide velcro strap. Very simple and universal. Mark

[rosslindberg]

Have you got any pictures? I have a toolroll purchased from Aerostich which is made by an outfit called Wolftrax. www.wolftrax.com It's really nice, but I have thought that a custom made toolroll would be really nice. I'd like to see some of your ideas. Ross --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > At 5:40 PM -0700 12/21/06, Dennis Shell wrote: > >Sorry if my post was misconstrued, I am not trying to drum up > >business but I have access to heavy duty materials and the

machine

> >to handle them. If someone wanted to make a list of tools that

any

> >KLR rider should have I was willing to help out. Pay for

materials

> >and buy me a cup of coffee if I get into your neck of the woods. > >Does this qualify as a vender post? Happy holidays all, Dennis > > Nah, I'd call this a "righteous dude post." > My roll is simple. It's a strip about 20" wide with 4" folded hems > that serve as pockets along both long edges. My pockets are random > widths from 1" to 2 1/2" wide and there are about a dozen pockets

on

> each edge along the 18" length of the unrolled roll. The roll

secures

> with a 3" wide velcro strap. Very simple and universal. > > Mark >

[Norm Keller]

>I am not trying to drum up business but I have >access to heavy duty materials and the >machine to handle them. If someone wanted to >make a list of tools that any KLR rider should > >have I was willing to help out.

Nice of you to offer, Dennis. Where are you located? Norm Keller Chilliwack, Canada [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dennis Shell]

HI Norm, I'm in Colorado, NE of Colorado Springs. My idea is not completely altruistic, some of the guys on this list have done some serious traveling with their KLRs and I'm sure they have weeded out any unneeded tools. So, I'm willing to build these bags to help me out with my traveling tools. I think I can build something that will support all the tools, including tire irons, air pump, etc.. that will roll up and attach to the bike somewhere that is accessable even if the bike is loaded. Have a great holiday season, Dennis

----- Original Message ----- From: Norm Keller To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR tool bag rolls >I am not trying to drum up business but I have >access to heavy duty materials and the >machine to handle them. If someone wanted to >make a list of tools that any KLR rider should > >have I was willing to help out. Nice of you to offer, Dennis. Where are you located? Norm Keller Chilliwack, Canada [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Luke in Brooklyn]

Hey Dennis-- I once had the idea of finding a secure spot for all my tools (more secure than the tube thing on the bash plate). I was trying to trim down to the point that, with tubes in a fender bag, I'd have nothing strapped to the rack at all. I figured out that a pelican 1120 case (www.pelican.com or www.bhphoto.com) will *just* fit in the space on the left of the bike where the muffler isn't (this is on my bike with HT SU racks, which limit space but provide protection from sideways impacts). There's already a secure mounting tab there from the smog crap, but I wanted to make a bracket that would allow me to easily remove the entire box towards the wheel (so it's accessible even with aluminum boxes bolted on). At the time I didn't have access to a welder; now that I do have access I've gotten over the pelican idea. I did buy the pelican 1120 and used it as a toolbox on the bike for a couple years--it'll *just* hold the tools I carry, including tire irons but not including the tubes or pump. I don't have a precise list of what it is I carry handy, but it's everything I normally use on the bike-- the only thing's I ever need from the regular tool kit are jumbo sockets for removing the swingarm and countershaft nut and the feeler gauges for doing the valves. Everything else I've ever needed fits in that case. Working out of a case like that sucks compared to the tool roll, though. I'm really happy with my new tool roll and have blown off the idea of building a home for the tools, but I'd be interested to see what you come up with. -Luke --- Dennis Shell wrote:

> HI Norm, I'm in Colorado, NE of Colorado Springs. My > idea is not completely altruistic, some of the guys > on this list have done some serious traveling with > their KLRs and I'm sure they have weeded out any > unneeded tools. So, I'm willing to build these bags > to help me out with my traveling tools. I think I > can build something that will support all the tools, > including tire irons, air pump, etc.. that will roll > up and attach to the bike somewhere that is > accessable even if the bike is loaded. Have a great > holiday season, Dennis

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[Dennis Shell]

My idea about the tools are traveling tools. I would assume that if you were about to spend a week or so traveling around in the back country, Before you left most of the standard maintenance issues would be addressed, like valves, swing arm lubed etc.. The things that you might encounter on the trail like carb problems, broken chain, broken cables, flat tires. Those are the type of problems that I would like to build a tool bag to deal with. So, what I'm trying to get from everyone is the most common problems and the tools required to fix them. I really doubt that if you grenade your engine on the trail you'll try to rebuild it there. Take care, Dennis

----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke in Brooklyn" To: "Dennis Shell" ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR tool bag rolls > Hey Dennis-- > I once had the idea of finding a secure spot for all > my tools (more secure than the tube thing on the bash > plate). I was trying to trim down to the point that, > with tubes in a fender bag, I'd have nothing strapped > to the rack at all. I figured out that a pelican 1120 > case (www.pelican.com or www.bhphoto.com) will *just* > fit in the space on the left of the bike where the > muffler isn't (this is on my bike with HT SU racks, > which limit space but provide protection from sideways > impacts). There's already a secure mounting tab there > from the smog crap, but I wanted to make a bracket > that would allow me to easily remove the entire box > towards the wheel (so it's accessible even with > aluminum boxes bolted on). At the time I didn't have > access to a welder; now that I do have access I've > gotten over the pelican idea. I did buy the pelican > 1120 and used it as a toolbox on the bike for a couple > years--it'll *just* hold the tools I carry, including > tire irons but not including the tubes or pump. I > don't have a precise list of what it is I carry handy, > but it's everything I normally use on the bike-- the > only thing's I ever need from the regular tool kit are > jumbo sockets for removing the swingarm and > countershaft nut and the feeler gauges for doing the > valves. Everything else I've ever needed fits in that > case. Working out of a case like that sucks compared > to the tool roll, though. > > I'm really happy with my new tool roll and have blown > off the idea of building a home for the tools, but I'd > be interested to see what you come up with. > > -Luke > > --- Dennis Shell wrote: > >> HI Norm, I'm in Colorado, NE of Colorado Springs. My >> idea is not completely altruistic, some of the guys >> on this list have done some serious traveling with >> their KLRs and I'm sure they have weeded out any >> unneeded tools. So, I'm willing to build these bags >> to help me out with my traveling tools. I think I >> can build something that will support all the tools, >> including tire irons, air pump, etc.. that will roll >> up and attach to the bike somewhere that is >> accessable even if the bike is loaded. Have a great >> holiday season, Dennis > > 92 CB750 nighthawk--naked simpleton > 03 KLR650--fat girl with a dirty mind > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

[Norm Keller]

Luke posted:

>a pelican 1120 case (www.pelican.com or >www.bhphoto.com) will *just* fit in the space >on the left of the bike where the muffler isn't >(this is on my bike with HT SU racks,

That area (inboard from the HT rack) is certainly attractive from the tool storage perspective. I have a 4" sewer pipe tool carrier which does well for tire irons, electric pump, patch supplies, etc. but lacks the space for hand tools which presently reside in a small carry bag in the Givi trunk. I'm looking for a stowage which will move the tools to a lower location to help the top heavy issue and which will not require trunk or luggage since it is good to remove the trunk when trail riding at the cottage. I've been considering a compartment which would be attached to the left HT rack but would protrude into the area between the rack and tire. Such a compartment would not have to be symmetrical and could be accessed by a hinged lid which would cover the complete frame area. The lid would appear as a side number plate. The pannier would simply fit over the hinged lid and mount as it normally does. Gaining access to the tool compartment would require removal of the left pannier but this isn't a difficult process. The lid and compartment would need to be shaped so that the hooked lower mount for the pannier still slides over the HT rack's lower bar. Has anyone developed such a concept or even taken the idea further? Once the storage compartment is finalized it will be possible to design a tool roll or rolls to fit the compartment. Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Luke in Brooklyn]

That's exactly what I was getting at with the pelican idea. It doesn't perfectly conform to the space (someone once suggested a pistol case might?) but it's a pretty close fit so I don''t think you're losing much... in fact you'll have to clearance a bit of the rear fender to make the box even fit in that space. I wanted it there but facing in so I didn't have to remove the pannier. The rear crossbar for the pannier, the front SU mount, and the smog crap mounts present nicely placed points for a creative mounting. -Luke --- Norm Keller wrote:

> Luke posted: > >a pelican 1120 case (www.pelican.com or > >www.bhphoto.com) will *just* fit in the space >on > the left of the bike where the muffler isn't > >(this is on my bike with HT SU racks, > > That area (inboard from the HT rack) is certainly > attractive from the tool storage perspective. I have > a 4" sewer pipe tool carrier which does well for > tire irons, electric pump, patch supplies, etc. but > lacks the space for hand tools which presently > reside in a small carry bag in the Givi trunk. > > I'm looking for a stowage which will move the tools > to a lower location to help the top heavy issue and > which will not require trunk or luggage since it is > good to remove the trunk when trail riding at the > cottage. > > I've been considering a compartment which would be > attached to the left HT rack but would protrude into > the area between the rack and tire. Such a > compartment would not have to be symmetrical and > could be accessed by a hinged lid which would cover > the complete frame area. The lid would appear as a > side number plate. The pannier would simply fit over > the hinged lid and mount as it normally does. > Gaining access to the tool compartment would require > removal of the left pannier but this isn't a > difficult process. The lid and compartment would > need to be shaped so that the hooked lower mount for > the pannier still slides over the HT rack's lower > bar. > > Has anyone developed such a concept or even taken > the idea further? > Once the storage compartment is finalized it will be > possible to design a tool roll or rolls to fit the > compartment. > > Norm > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[Don S]

Hey Norm. Have you thought of attaching the tool compartment to the wheel side of the pannier exterior? That way, you can pop off the pannier, lay it down and your tool box will be readily available on the back side of the pannier. It would however add weight to the pannier and one would have to ensure the side of the pannier is reinforced to handle it. Don Norm Keller wrote: Luke posted:

>a pelican 1120 case (www.pelican.com or >www.bhphoto.com) will *just* fit in the space >on the left of the bike where the muffler isn't >(this is on my bike with HT SU racks,

That area (inboard from the HT rack) is certainly attractive from the tool storage perspective. I have a 4" sewer pipe tool carrier which does well for tire irons, electric pump, patch supplies, etc. but lacks the space for hand tools which presently reside in a small carry bag in the Givi trunk. I'm looking for a stowage which will move the tools to a lower location to help the top heavy issue and which will not require trunk or luggage since it is good to remove the trunk when trail riding at the cottage. I've been considering a compartment which would be attached to the left HT rack but would protrude into the area between the rack and tire. Such a compartment would not have to be symmetrical and could be accessed by a hinged lid which would cover the complete frame area. The lid would appear as a side number plate. The pannier would simply fit over the hinged lid and mount as it normally does. Gaining access to the tool compartment would require removal of the left pannier but this isn't a difficult process. The lid and compartment would need to be shaped so that the hooked lower mount for the pannier still slides over the HT rack's lower bar. Has anyone developed such a concept or even taken the idea further? Once the storage compartment is finalized it will be possible to design a tool roll or rolls to fit the compartment. Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]