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[Dale Johnson]

OK, so I had some problems, Thanks Mike for the call. My intake is .004 L and .005 R, exaust is .006 L and .008 R. So I am just guessing I need to swap out some shims. OK I am realy not mechanicaly inclined and it was a pain in the butt to get this far, So who wants to come over and help me? Beer? 20 bucks? Whats it gonna take? Ohh and Sarah your included in this also. I have a trip to Dumont Dunes planned for easter and would hate to have to go out there w/out my bike.. Dale (909)427-8064 Thanks

[Guest]

Am doing first (my first, not bikes), and having some problems. Yesterday got things apart and found: ex L .006 270, ex R.004 270, in L .003 265, in R .006 260. Went to local(Oceanside)Kawi dealer who only had shims in .005 increments and did some swapping/rearranging of shims, and this is what I now have: ex. L.006 270, ex. R .005 265, in. L .005 260, in. R .006 260. Still outta whack, but don't understand why changes in shim didn't produce much change in clearance. Anyone have ideas, or can plug my numbers into shim-calc(no Windows here), and get back to me? Thanks, Porter. phwiii@...

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> Anyone have ideas, or can plug my numbers into shim-calc(no Windows > here), and get back to me? Thanks, Porter.

Assuming you're at TDC, and all the other stuff is as it should be, let me know - to avoid any confusion: 1). what you have for clearances NOW 2). what shims are in there NOW to give you those clearances 3). what clearances you would like to end up with. I don't trust my math, and since you're not running Windows I'm sure Pat wouldn't mind if I were to run the numbers in my registered Shimcalc. Let me know, and I'll do this and return the info with a screen shot of the ShimCalc display. Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

[RM]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, phw96740 wrote:

>Am doing first (my first, not bikes), and having some problems. >Yesterday got things apart and found: ex L .006 270, ex R.004 270, >in L .003 265, in R .006 260. Went to local(Oceanside)Kawi dealer >who only had shims in .005 increments and did some swapping/rearranging >of shims, and this is what I now have: ex. L.006 270, ex. R .005 265, >in. L .005 260, in. R .006 260.

EX left: with .006" using a 270, you probably want a 260 to get you up near .010" EX right: with .004" using a 270, you probably want a 255 to get you up near .010" IN left: with .003" using a 265, you probably want a 255 to get you up near .007" IN right: with .006" using a 260, you probably want a 255 to get you up near .008" Don't sweat it if you're off by .001". It's just not that critical. One shim size is not exactly .002", but it's pretty close. RM

[Danodemotoman]

Been two years since the last valve check/adjustment I had done by a shop mechanic I trust that does side biz at home. Well he , the mech, moved , changed jobs.. so I decided to get off me lazt duff and do it at home. I was surprised at how complex the klx's upper cast one piece cam journals are, yikes 16 bolts v/s 8 on the klr which uses std ole four piece caps. Had all for of the klr's on the tight side.... it had only been done oncet at 500 mile service and now has 16k mi.. I said i was lazy, procrastinator too. Only one of the klx's were on the low side of the tolerance. Now waiting for the 1/4" drive torque wrench to get here on mail order. I don't see any other way to torque some of the cap bolts with the little height there is. The 3/8 is way too tall ... Cam lobes all look purty. Getting ready for the next ride! Dan P Graham WA

[texklr]

Along with the current discussion on valve adjustments - I had two dealers tell me that a check was not needed at the 500 mile service. Still I worry. O.K. I will explose that I am not a gearhead ( as much as I would like to be ) so humor me by answering a dumb question. Why does the KLR call for a valve adjustment every 6,000 miles and a Honda scooter with the shim under bucket call for an adjustment every 16,000 miles? I am sure there must be a reason, but it beats the heck out of me. Thanks for humoring an old guy Ride safe Jim

[Devon Jarvis]

I don't know why either. I set my valves to the widest clearance at 750mi. I checked them at 10,000mi and none needed adjustment. They had all closed up by .001 or .002" but were still within spec. At the rate they were closing, they will need adjustment by 16,000mi or so. Maybe Kawasaki says "500mi" because they count on lazy round-eyes to wait until 3000 mi, and 6000 as intervals because it needs to be done every 12,000. Devon A15

> Why does the > KLR call for a valve adjustment every 6,000 miles and a Honda scooter > with the shim under bucket call for an adjustment every 16,000 > miles? I am sure there must be a reason, but it beats the heck out > of me. > > Thanks for humoring an old guy > > Ride safe > > Jim >

[dtovb]

Hello, I have started my valve adjustment today on 770 milies. I found that left inlet has 0.0015" ( 0.03mm) clearance. This is a real out of the specification and have to be changed. I don't know is it a common situation for KLR engine or not but I think you have to check your valves. I found that thisi is real easy and I did it at 30 minutes without any manuals. Dmitry from Minnesota

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "texklr" wrote: > Along with the current discussion on valve adjustments - I had two > dealers tell me that a check was not needed at the 500 mile service. > Still I worry. > > O.K. I will explose that I am not a gearhead ( as much as I would > like to be ) so humor me by answering a dumb question. Why does the > KLR call for a valve adjustment every 6,000 miles and a Honda scooter > with the shim under bucket call for an adjustment every 16,000 > miles? I am sure there must be a reason, but it beats the heck out > of me. > > Thanks for humoring an old guy > > Ride safe > > Jim

[RM]

>Maybe Kawasaki says "500mi" because they count on lazy round-eyes to >wait until 3000 mi, and 6000 as intervals because it needs to be done >every 12,000.

At 700 miles I had two valves out-of-spec. Having one or more valves out-of-spec at the time of the first valve check seems to be the most common scenario. I do not like dealers. OK. I feel better. Good luck. Take a clue-by-four to whack 'em over the head with... RM

[j. Brown]

Lots of valve talk recently, so I wanted to ask: What are the ramifications of NOT doing your valve adjustments? -j.