how much shock oil? used 130cc and it seems too little

[thailine]

For those with experience in both, at what point on the street/dirt spectrum would you "break even". In other words, if you were to drive 80% street and 20% dirt, you'd take a the Strom 650. At 70%/30%, you'd switch to the KLR. Keep in mind, someone who rides dirt 20% of the time probably defines dirt as fire trails. Someone who ride dirt 80% is probably doing jumps, pretending to be a submarine and comes home is a complete color obscuring coat of mud, etc.

[Samuel Hudson]

Depends on how serious you want the 10% dirt to be also. I'm willing to push the klr pretty hard off road, to the point that it being less breakable than a strom rules out the strom as a option for those sorts of rides. --sam hudson, san antonio tx.

[John]

I can't say about the DL650 because I have the 1000 and I will keep it for street riding which is 95% of what I do on the strom. I wanted to do more off road so I got a KLR which seems like a good dual sport. I haven't ridden dirt in decades so I am still in the refreshing stage. If I was going to have one bike and did mostly short trips, dirt and one up I would probably get the KLR. If you want to do long trips, little off road or two up I would go with the strom but I would stay with the 1000. Both bikes have issues but nothing that can't be taken care of. The seat on the strom needs tweeking, it has a hesitation at DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "thailine" wrote:

> > For those with experience in both, at what point on the street/dirt > spectrum would you "break even". > > In other words, if you were to drive 80% street and 20% dirt, you'd > take a the Strom 650. At 70%/30%, you'd switch to the KLR. > > Keep in mind, someone who rides dirt 20% of the time probably defines > dirt as fire trails. Someone who ride dirt 80% is probably doing > jumps, pretending to be a submarine and comes home is a complete color > obscuring coat of mud, etc. >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Hudson wrote:

> > Depends on how serious you want the 10% dirt to be also. I'm

willing to

> push the klr pretty hard off road, to the point that it being less > breakable than a strom rules out the strom as a option for those

sorts

> of rides. > --sam hudson, san antonio tx. >

Sam and others, I never met a motorcycle that I did not like, some more so than others. However, I could never imagine riding the STROM AKA a dual sport (and I have never ridden one, only judging from the pictures) to check fences or chase cows. However, I could imagine sitting at the edge of a road, looking across the prairie fields while astride a STROM, imagining how much fun it would be to own a motorcycle that could be used for checking fences or chasing cows. For ranch work, Neither the STROM nor the KLR650/250 etal is useful if you need a 4x4 hoof-drive quarter horse. Why? Sometimes a KAWboy (or KAWgal) needs a riding companion with brains..."Boss, you got to be kidding...I ain't going to take you over there!" and then spits you out (=bucks, crow-hops, bites or rolls), leaving you in "2x2 shoe- leather-drive" before you get to a point that neither of you can get out. revmaaatin. who lives where dual sport is checking fences and chasing cows PS. we have a lot of prickly pear cactus here, which wreck havoc on m/c and 4-wheeler tires and I have yet to have the quarter horse get a 'flat-hoof' from cactus. and the horse has better leg-warming characteristics than either the STROM or the KLR

[Wayne]

I don't post here much but read this and had a thought. Rarely happens I know but it's winter in Winnipeg and I have lots of spare time now.. Anyways, I wonder if the KLR shock works like a front fork? That is, adding more oil to the shock would increase bottoming resistance. I don't think this happens with a bladder type shock (ie. remote reservoir). On those you put in as much oil as the shock will hold. But on the stock KLR shock the oil and nitrogen are not separated (just like in the front fork). Would adding more oil decrease the air space and in turn increase bottoming resistance? If so, it sure wouldn't take much more oil since there's only 130cc to begin with. Any thoughts? Wayne --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Analog Aardvark wrote:

> > Matt-- > > Thanks for the reply. 130cc = 4.395 oz so I guess I'm > alright. The more I play with this thing the more I > want to do.... now I'm daydreaming about plumbing an > external WP reservoir to the thing. I think I need a > reality check. > > Thanks for the confirmation. > > -Luke > >

[Mike Peplinski]

There are a lot of 99% paved road KLRista out there. I'm one of them. The riding position, handling and simplicity of the KLR make it an easy choice. If I went for the road worthiness aspect of the Strom, I probably would just go with the SV650 or the Kawa 650- twin road bike. One more thing. The "SUV" look of the KLR is hard to match with any other road bike. Katoom?

>From: "thailine" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Vstrom vs. KLR, part the second >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:54:32 -0000 > >For those with experience in both, at what point on the street/dirt >spectrum would you "break even". > >In other words, if you were to drive 80% street and 20% dirt, you'd >take a the Strom 650. At 70%/30%, you'd switch to the KLR. > >Keep in mind, someone who rides dirt 20% of the time probably defines >dirt as fire trails. Someone who ride dirt 80% is probably doing >jumps, pretending to be a submarine and comes home is a complete color >obscuring coat of mud, etc. > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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