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[loudicks]

I'm thinking about getting my 1st GPS for my '03 KLR650 for next season. Looking for opinion/advice on what to buy and what to expect. I'd really like to get mapping for every dirt/gravel/trail/twisty backroad in the midwest. Is this available? I spent some time on the Garmin site, but it wasn't clear to me what is available for maps. Price is definetly a consideration. Can I get something decent for around $300.00? If not, what will I need to spend? I have a utility outlet (Cigar Lighter)on the bike attached to the "euro" wires in the fairing. Can I power a GPS OK? Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. JS Minneapolis MN. USA

[Jeff Saline]

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:59:00 -0000 "loudicks" writes:

> I'm thinking about getting my 1st GPS for my '03 KLR650 for next > season. Looking for opinion/advice on what to buy and what to > expect. I'd really like to get mapping for every > dirt/gravel/trail/twisty > backroad in the midwest. Is this available? I spent some > time on the Garmin site, but it wasn't clear to me what is > available for maps. Price is definetly a consideration. Can I get > something decent for around $300.00? If not, what will I need to > spend? I have a utility outlet (Cigar Lighter)on the bike attached > to the "euro" wires in the fairing. Can I power a GPS OK? Thanks > in advance for any advice you can offer. > JS > Minneapolis MN. USA

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> loudicks, I use a Garmin 76CSx which cost about $440 new last spring when it first became available. I like it cause it's not too big but has some neat capabilities. It has a removable memory card so you can load lots of maps on it and then add a second card if you want. For De Tour Steve Rankin and I took I had over 1,900 maps loaded. It also allows you to save tracks to the memory card for later retrieval. Routes and tracks functions are pretty large for a small unit. It's waterproof and floats although I don't think it would float a KLR if it went under. : ) For maps I'm using Garmin MapSource TOPO and US Roads and Recreation. TOPO is still available as far as I know but I think R&R has been discontinued for a few years. I got a copy from eBay. The maps are pretty good but not as up to date as a guy may sometimes want. Steve and I found quite a few roads on the maps that looked good but on the ground they were either no longer in use/available or private. But for me the TOPO and R&R work well. The 76CSx will not create routes for you like some auto style GPSs will. But I've learned how to use mine and it works well for me on the KLR. Using the city lights wiring for a GPS should be fine. I wouldn't use it to power heated clothing. I have one outlet key controlled and one hot all the time. I like the hot all the time for the GPS as when I stop I don't have to push any buttons to keep the GPS running. It also works well for charging the battery as I can just plug in and charge away. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Greg Roeder]

I've been using GPS since the Army first adopted the PLGR units that were more of a liability than an asset. IMO go with the cheapest least featured GPS you can find, carry maps, and a compass is a must! The reason I say this is because I have learned that GPS can lead the blind into the woods but may not always lead the blind out. On orienteering courses I routinely beat soldier's route times (they were equipped with GPS) using good old fashioned map reading skills, a compass, and a protractor. Land navigation is a dying art but worth learning if you're heading out into the boonies. All of the modern GPS units have a "go to" feature that will tell you a general direction to head toward. I personally think that all of the "toys" available have too many things to screw around with when you're off- road. A map feature will tell you where "farm road xxx" goes but won't tell you when that farm road has a bridge out. A basic GPS will allow you to program known geological features in that won't change like man-made objects. Learn to land nav off topo features and use the GPS as a back up tool and you'll never be sorry.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "loudicks" wrote: > > I'm thinking about getting my 1st GPS for my '03 KLR650 for next > season. Looking for opinion/advice on what to buy and what to > expect. I'd really like to get mapping for every dirt/gravel/trail/twisty > backroad in the midwest. Is this available? I spent some > time on the Garmin site, but it wasn't clear to me what is > available for maps. Price is definetly a consideration. Can I get > something decent for around $300.00? If not, what will I need to > spend? I have a utility outlet (Cigar Lighter)on the bike attached > to the "euro" wires in the fairing. Can I power a GPS OK? Thanks > in advance for any advice you can offer. > JS > Minneapolis MN. USA >

[Jim Priest]

On 11/4/06, Greg Roeder wrote:

> I've been using GPS since the Army first adopted the PLGR units that > were more of a liability than an asset. IMO go with the cheapest > least featured GPS you can find, carry maps, and a compass is a must!

I'm a map guy myself... What I'd really like GPS for is late in the day after I've been roaming around (and possibly lost) and want to get home / back to hotel ASAP - I'd like to be able to push a button on the GPS and have it figure out where I'm at and how to get back... Jim

[klrmtn]

That's what I wanted too, an easy way to find my way home. I just bout a Lowarance iway 100M from Shipdog for $139 free shipping, including a full set of maps and ram mount for the car. It is black and white, but it's worked great so far. I was a little skeptical of GPS, but now that I've tried it, I definetly see the benefit. Jason

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Priest" wrote: > > On 11/4/06, Greg Roeder wrote: > > I've been using GPS since the Army first adopted the PLGR units that > > were more of a liability than an asset. IMO go with the cheapest > > least featured GPS you can find, carry maps, and a compass is a must! > > I'm a map guy myself... What I'd really like GPS for is late in the > day after I've been roaming around (and possibly lost) and want to get > home / back to hotel ASAP - I'd like to be able to push a button on > the GPS and have it figure out where I'm at and how to get back... > > Jim >

[Spike55]

It all depends. I have a tiny eTrex and I use it to create a history of where we've been (road or in the woods). The screen is small and you can not "see" too far (miles) if you need the level of detail to be high enough to see unimproved dirt roads. The info (MapSource) is in there and a bigger screen would make a lot of difference. I also carry and rountine refer to a map and compass (20 yrs of Boy Scout leadership & teaching). Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "loudicks" wrote: > > I'm thinking about getting my 1st GPS for my '03 KLR650 for next > season. Looking for opinion/advice on what to buy and what to > expect. I'd really like to get mapping for every dirt/gravel/trail/twisty > backroad in the midwest. Is this available? I spent some > time on the Garmin site, but it wasn't clear to me what is > available for maps. Price is definetly a consideration. Can I get > something decent for around $300.00? If not, what will I need to > spend? I have a utility outlet (Cigar Lighter)on the bike attached > to the "euro" wires in the fairing. Can I power a GPS OK? Thanks > in advance for any advice you can offer. > JS > Minneapolis MN. USA >

[Hedrek]

I used to think a GPS in the continental US was silly, until I ventured out onto New Mexico and Arizona dirt roads, with non-existents signs, worthless signs, multiple side routes, no gas, etc. etc. etc. Plus it sound like a nice toy to play with while on the road. --- klrmtn wrote:

> That's what I wanted too, an easy way to find my way > home. I just > bout a Lowarance iway 100M from Shipdog for $139 > free shipping, > including a full set of maps and ram mount for the > car. It is black > and white, but it's worked great so far. I was a > little skeptical of > GPS, but now that I've tried it, I definetly see the > benefit. > Jason > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Priest" > wrote: > > > > On 11/4/06, Greg Roeder wrote: > > > I've been using GPS since the Army first adopted > the PLGR units > that > > > were more of a liability than an asset. IMO go > with the cheapest > > > least featured GPS you can find, carry maps, and > a compass is a > must! > > > > I'm a map guy myself... What I'd really like GPS > for is late in the > > day after I've been roaming around (and possibly > lost) and want to > get > > home / back to hotel ASAP - I'd like to be able to > push a button on > > the GPS and have it figure out where I'm at and > how to get back... > > > > Jim > > > > > >

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[Dean Wegner]

A RECONDITIONED Garmin Quest will do what your are asking for about $300. Shop for one on EBAY. They have 110Mb of download space, which will hold the maps for 3-4 states. If you drive off of your downloaded map space, the GPS will still have main roads and towns loaded on it, so you can still tell where you are. A Garmin Quest II is more $$$ but comes preloaded with detailed maps for all the US, Canada and Puerto Rico. The Quest will do Auto-routing, which means you give it a destination, and it will tell you the route to take, turn by turn. Some other Garmin models like the 76 or the 60 or the Etrex models will do mapping, but not the autorouting. Check the download space available, because it takes a lot of memory to hold a whole state worth of detailed maps. Its not to hard to find GPS review sites if you search for one. The Quest has a little flip out antenna, which doesn't look that durable, so if you are going to go bashing into trees, I would look for a different model. If you treat it with care, it would work fine for years. The response from the guy who said the GPS's are not to be trusted was correct. They are great, useful tools, but you need to bring a backup. They work most of the time and give good infomation, but if you are getting way off the beaten track you should have a backup plan in place. I had a Garmin GPS III plus since '99 which after years of abuse finally died. I liked it so much that I'm really not looking at other brands for its replacement. I intend to get a Quest and then mount it securely and get lost to my hearts content and then follow it home. HTH Dean Wegner A16

On 11/4/06, loudicks wrote: > > I'm thinking about getting my 1st GPS for my '03 KLR650 for next > season. Looking for opinion/advice on what to buy and what to > expect. I'd really like to get mapping for every dirt/gravel/trail/twisty > backroad in the midwest. Is this available? I spent some > time on the Garmin site, but it wasn't clear to me what is > available for maps. Price is definetly a consideration. Can I get > something decent for around $300.00? If not, what will I need to > spend? I have a utility outlet (Cigar Lighter)on the bike attached > to the "euro" wires in the fairing. Can I power a GPS OK? Thanks > in advance for any advice you can offer. > JS > Minneapolis MN. USA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kenmcklr" wrote:

> > My bike has 29k. Recently the bike acts as it is out > gas while running at 75-80 mph for an extended time. > I do have gas. If I reduce my speed to about 65mph > everything is ok. Now because of this I removed my inline > fuel filter thinking this could be the problem.

> This is the first time I have had any trouble with the bike since > purchasing it new. Thanks for any info, and thanks for the help > I've received in the past. Ken McDonald Katy Tx.

When is the last time you changed the SPARK PLUG?

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