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[Mike Peplinski]

I like to use a line regarding "what is best" that goes like this "If it makes sense, it is probably OK. If it doesn't make sense, it probably won't". Helmets have one main function, protect your head in an impact. The manufacturers do everything they can to make it protect you from as many different types of hit as possible. Heck, you could probably wear a cracked helmet and it will protect you in some type of impact. But we have no idea what kind of impact we will encounter, so we go with the best overall protection. Most sources agree that a drop of any sort will weaken a helmet somewhere. It is a gamble to try to figure out where the weakness is. Or you can look at it this way; would you buy used underware? Think of a helmet as outer underwear for y our head! Buy new and thetn you don't have to worry.

>From: "usa1911a1" >To: "Jim Priest" ,DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>,"Moose" > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:29:36 -0400 > >Ok Moose, you opened up a "Pandora's box". > >I have no strong firsthand knowledge in this matter, but would like to ask >the group a simple question. > >Is it a good idea to use a used helmet? My safety course in CT. was loud >and clear that you cannot tell if a helmet is any good if it is >used...something to do with an ablative foam that chips off the inside of >the helmet. As a result of the safety course, I have not even considered >using a used helmet...am I correct or should I pick up a used helmet next >time around? > >Capt. Bob in CT. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Moose" >To: "Jim Priest" ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:39 PM >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > Also, if you can find some used riding gear in your size, try to >beg/borrow to use it. A lot of riders have extras that are 2 or 3 years >old >and still in good shape that you can use or buy. It'll save you money in >the beginning and the fun little things you screw up on don't tear up a lot >of new eq. I lucked out and got a 3 year old helmet with some chips, but >still in great shape, older gloves (Cold as heck in the winter!!!), a >riding >jacket (also 3 years old) and riding pants. Not the best stuff as it's >older but it's still safe and i'm not out a lot of money when I dump the >bike. I'm now saving up for new stuff in say, 6 months. As for safety EQ >on the bike, look for the front grill guard/ skid plate for >the....unexpected off-road expeditions...to protect the bike. The rest you >will see as you ride and decide if it's for you or not. > > > > My .02 > > Moose > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jim Priest > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:02:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > On 10/17/06, wiselp wrote: > > > I am new to this group and new to motorcycles in general. I am buying > > > a 2005 KLR this Friday and have signed up to take a motorcycle safety > > > course to learn how to ride responsibly. > > > > Safety course is number 1 and you have that covered. > > > > What kind of gear do you have? Before I spent a dime on any bike > > additions I'd make sure I had a nice helmet that fit properly, gloves, > > boots, and a nice motorcycle jacket (at least). > > > > Take the safety course - get some mileage under your belt and then > > you'll be ready for bike mods... > > > > Have fun! > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[wiselp]

I was wondering the same thing. I bought a new helmet just in case. As for boots and the like, I was planning on using my old combat boots.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "usa1911a1" wrote: > > Ok Moose, you opened up a "Pandora's box". > > I have no strong firsthand knowledge in this matter, but would like to ask > the group a simple question. > > Is it a good idea to use a used helmet? My safety course in CT. was loud > and clear that you cannot tell if a helmet is any good if it is > used...something to do with an ablative foam that chips off the inside of > the helmet. As a result of the safety course, I have not even considered > using a used helmet...am I correct or should I pick up a used helmet next > time around? > > Capt. Bob in CT. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moose" > To: "Jim Priest" ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > Also, if you can find some used riding gear in your size, try to > beg/borrow to use it. A lot of riders have extras that are 2 or 3 years old > and still in good shape that you can use or buy. It'll save you money in > the beginning and the fun little things you screw up on don't tear up a lot > of new eq. I lucked out and got a 3 year old helmet with some chips, but > still in great shape, older gloves (Cold as heck in the winter!!!), a riding > jacket (also 3 years old) and riding pants. Not the best stuff as it's > older but it's still safe and i'm not out a lot of money when I dump the > bike. I'm now saving up for new stuff in say, 6 months. As for safety EQ > on the bike, look for the front grill guard/ skid plate for > the....unexpected off-road expeditions...to protect the bike. The rest you > will see as you ride and decide if it's for you or not. > > > > My .02 > > Moose > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jim Priest > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:02:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > On 10/17/06, wiselp wrote: > > > I am new to this group and new to motorcycles in general. I am buying > > > a 2005 KLR this Friday and have signed up to take a motorcycle safety > > > course to learn how to ride responsibly. > > > > Safety course is number 1 and you have that covered. > > > > What kind of gear do you have? Before I spent a dime on any bike > > additions I'd make sure I had a nice helmet that fit properly, gloves, > > boots, and a nice motorcycle jacket (at least). > > > > Take the safety course - get some mileage under your belt and then > > you'll be ready for bike mods... > > > > Have fun! > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >

[wiselp]

Feel free to call me an idiot, but what are "nerf bars"...my first image is nerf footballs, which can't be good for riding!

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote: > > Best protection for the bike? Nerf bars hands down. But if you can't > afford those, radiator and footguards are a good second. Also bring > along a good set of tools as the KLRs are subject to (sometimes vital) > part coming loose. > > Protection for you? A good, new, DOT approved, brain bucket with > faceshield is #1. Often overlooked is a good pair of riding boots at > #2 - waterproof boots that go over the ankle with padding are a > minimum. Offroad boots are best. > > After that good riding gloves (gel to minimize vibration) and jacket > to prevent road-rash in case you beccome less than vertical. > > The basic idea is to protect the vulnerable spots: head, eys, hands, > feet/ankles. After that anything is gravy. You can get a full > off-road riding suit and look like the chelin Man. But that's > overkill for most folks unless you're really digging in the dirt. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wiselp" wrote: > > > > Hello everyone! > > I am new to this group and new to motorcycles in general. I am buying > > a 2005 KLR this Friday and have signed up to take a motorcycle safety > > course to learn how to ride responsibly. > > It seems like there a lot of threads concerning mods for the KLR, but > > I was wondering what would be good upgrades for a new rider, > > specifically in terms of protection to the bike. I was thinking that > > I should go ahead and install radiator and waterpump guards. Are > > there any other suggestions? I plan on riding about 80/20 on/off. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Lauren > > >

[Yan]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wiselp" wrote:

> > Feel free to call me an idiot, but what are "nerf bars"..

http://happy-trail.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=KLR-PD-KLR-EG-3

[Yan]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Yan" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wiselp" wrote: > > > > Feel free to call me an idiot, but what are "nerf bars".. > > http://happy-trail.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=KLR-PD-KLR-EG-3 >

and here are the rear racks I would put on if I didn't already have saddlebags: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Rear-Cargo-Rack-Kawasaki-KLR-650-KLR650-NEW_W0QQitemZ180037611507QQihZ008QQcategoryZ35580QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.ca/KLR-650-Rear-Utility-Rack-HEAVY-DUTY-KLR650_W0QQitemZ170038431100QQihZ007QQcategoryZ35591QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Alan L Henderson]

wiselp wrote:

> I have a good jacket and helmet and will be buying gloves soon > (suggestions?). > I think I am paranoid becouse I have heard alot about busting up the > radiator fan or breaking the shifter, etc. >

Always wear some over the ankle lace up, or buckle etc, shoes or boots. Pull ons or low shoes come off in accidents, according to the late, great Gordon Jennings. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

[a14@att.net]

> What are you wearing for footwear? Most motorcycle accident injuries > are from hands and feet flailing around if/when you tumble, so those > (plus your noggin) should be your priority. Skin abrasions are > painful but usually not permanently disabling, but shattered ankles/ > feet and wrists/hands are. > -- > Blake Sobiloff >

Always remember to wear a cup or you may get road rash on your flailing member. Walt (not wanting to be permanently dismembered)

[Moose]

Ok, from a safety standpoint, always buy new. I only grabbed my friends used helmet because I knew him, his equipment and the history. I have a new helmet I bought (A scorpion for 135 brand new), but I started with his used while riding in the parking lot and on gravel roads, etc. new is better. I ride with military combat boots too (I have like 6 pairs left over from the Corps). wiselp wrote: I was wondering the same thing. I bought a new helmet just in case. As for boots and the like, I was planning on using my old combat boots.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "usa1911a1" wrote: > > Ok Moose, you opened up a "Pandora's box". > > I have no strong firsthand knowledge in this matter, but would like to ask > the group a simple question. > > Is it a good idea to use a used helmet? My safety course in CT. was loud > and clear that you cannot tell if a helmet is any good if it is > used...something to do with an ablative foam that chips off the inside of > the helmet. As a result of the safety course, I have not even considered > using a used helmet...am I correct or should I pick up a used helmet next > time around? > > Capt. Bob in CT. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moose" > To: "Jim Priest" ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > Also, if you can find some used riding gear in your size, try to > beg/borrow to use it. A lot of riders have extras that are 2 or 3 years old > and still in good shape that you can use or buy. It'll save you money in > the beginning and the fun little things you screw up on don't tear up a lot > of new eq. I lucked out and got a 3 year old helmet with some chips, but > still in great shape, older gloves (Cold as heck in the winter!!!), a riding > jacket (also 3 years old) and riding pants. Not the best stuff as it's > older but it's still safe and i'm not out a lot of money when I dump the > bike. I'm now saving up for new stuff in say, 6 months. As for safety EQ > on the bike, look for the front grill guard/ skid plate for > the....unexpected off-road expeditions...to protect the bike. The rest you > will see as you ride and decide if it's for you or not. > > > > My .02 > > Moose > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jim Priest > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:02:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New rider seeking advice on safety upgrades > > > > On 10/17/06, wiselp wrote: > > > I am new to this group and new to motorcycles in general. I am buying > > > a 2005 KLR this Friday and have signed up to take a motorcycle safety > > > course to learn how to ride responsibly. > > > > Safety course is number 1 and you have that covered. > > > > What kind of gear do you have? Before I spent a dime on any bike > > additions I'd make sure I had a nice helmet that fit properly, gloves, > > boots, and a nice motorcycle jacket (at least). > > > > Take the safety course - get some mileage under your belt and then > > you'll be ready for bike mods... > > > > Have fun! > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Moose]

Oh, and the helmet I got had replaceable pads, so a new set was like 10 bucks. --------------------------------- Why keep checking for Mail? The all-new Yahoo! Mail shows you when there are new messages. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Priest]

On 10/17/06, wiselp wrote:

> I was wondering the same thing. I bought a new helmet just in case. > As for boots and the like, I was planning on using my old combat boots.

Dunno if I'd buy a used helmet unless I knew the previous owner really wel - but otherwise used is great! Couple of good links: New Enough http://www.newenough.com - watch thier closeout sections - good deals. BMW Marketplace - the well off BMW crowd gets uh, plumper and unloads gear that no longer fits http://www.ibmwr.org/market/ DualSport Marketplace http://books.dreambook.com/haycock/classifieds.html And of course Ebay... Jim