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[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I also think that many people don't understand that we are at war. I think there are a lot of people in this country that should ask around about what sacrifice people of this country did during WW 2. And you are complaining about some inconvenience at the airport, all for the purpose of protecting YOU, for something nobody is forcing you to do??? And thousand of our troops are risking their lives so you can have the right to choose to fly and travel at your convenience?? And all of your other rights you enjoy? Such as complaining about the government? You should be ashamed of yourself. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Russell Scott]

This was exactly what I was thinking, and what might kill us. We are spoiled rotten in this country, and don't appreciate how much we have, and in many ways don't care. I think abandoning many of our spiritual and moral principals has helped foster this attitude, along with a money trumps all attitude. Freedom isn't the norm in this world, and if you don't fight for it, somebody will take it from you. R DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of jokerloco9@... Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:19 PM To: USA1911A1@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; sobiloff@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR: Anyone want to buy a plane with me? I also think that many people don't understand that we are at war. I think there are a lot of people in this country that should ask around about what sacrifice people of this country did during WW 2. And you are complaining about some inconvenience at the airport, all for the purpose of protecting YOU, for something nobody is forcing you to do??? And thousand of our troops are risking their lives so you can have the right to choose to fly and travel at your convenience?? And all of your other rights you enjoy? Such as complaining about the government? You should be ashamed of yourself. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Matt Knowles]

After a team of 11 Arab terrorists were caught hatching a plan to transport small dirty bombs into major metropolitan areas, the Federal government announced new regulations to counter this latest threat. The terrorists planned to use dual sport motorcycles to cross the border from Canada to Montana, through the Dakotas and then they would split up and head to 5 major metropolitan areas. Smuggled into their panniers were small scale dirty bombs. Starting immediately, the following regulations will be in effect: Motorcycles will not be allowed to have any type of luggage attached to them, including soft bags or hard bags, even if they were originally installed by the factory. Dual Purpose motorcycles will now be banned as it is too hard to secure border crossings from vehicles with such easy off road capability. We hope you understand these regulations are needed for the security of your country. It really shouldn't be an inconvenience to anyone as no one really needs to travel by motorcycle anyways. Remember, to protect our valuable freedoms, these sacrifices are needed. We can't let the terrorists control us. (And since I'm sure this email will illegally get read by our snooping government, let me make it perfectly clear: this is satire.) Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Russell Scott]

I'm just glad they caught them. But it also makes your point. They were on to them long before they got near an airport. If your waiting to catch them at the airport, its probably way to late to prevent them from carrying out their plans of destruction. Way too much of government is a dog and pony show, because of the massive bureaucracy, and the media waiting to film it. A former head of the FAA was on a talk show today and said small airlines and private jets is the future of public aviation. Probably save a lot of fuel too. R -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of E.L. Green Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:32 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Anyone want to buy a plane with me?

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "usa1911a1" wrote: > according to you will be doing the strip searches. Can you send me a > picture of yourself so that he doesn't miss you? Just pull up a picture of Mr. Rogers, and you'll be close enough to Blake for government purposes. Obviously a dangerous character. That mild- mannered visage and fuzzy sweater are just a facade, I'm sure. One of my friends was delayed over 12 hours because he was supposed to be flying in from India when they pulled all this. They turned the plane around in mid-air, unloaded everybody's luggage, and made everybody pick up their luggage, move their toothpaste and mouthwash to the luggage, and then go through screening again. Poor guy slept all day today, he was going to have lunch with me but after a flight that took close to 24 hours, he was just too darned tired. Security is all good and fun, but I'm in the security business, and I can tell you that this is 100% political, and has absolutely nothing to do with security. It's like when that shoe bomber guy tried to set his shoe on fire, and they made us take our shoes off going through the airport screening for months afterwards, even those of us who were wearing sandals with solid-rubber soles that one glance could have told you held no explosives. It's not to catch terrorists. It's for the politicians (i.e. professional liars, every single one of them, regardless of their political party) to be able to say "See? We're doing something to keep you safe!". Someone else in the security business asked me why I had a "security consultant" in one of my novels do a rather complicated scheme to steal some technology from a competitor's company, when a simpler scheme would have worked just as well. "She had to do enough work to justify her fee to the client," I said. Same deal for politicians. They gotta look like they're doing enough work to justify all the reaming they're doing to the taxpayers, even though reality is that it's all as bogus as a $3 bill. Here's a simple solution to the question of whether bottled water and toothpaste are a two-part explosive or not. Have the guy chug some of it down. If he explodes, it was an explosive. But that would make sense, and gosh darn it we just can't have government making sense, can we? This is as idiotic as the restriction on fingernail clippers post-9/11. Nobody is going to hijack a plane with fingernail clippers, something which Homeland Security quietly acknowledged recently when they allowed fingernail clippers on planes again. But hey, politicians needed to be seen to be "doing something"... -E [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E.L. Green]

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:29:06 -0700, wrote:

> You are about 75% full of nonsense. I suspect that there is some > political > nonsense going on in the airport security, like anything political. > But if we follow your advice and arrive at the logical conclusion that > the > airport security doesn't do anything, then let's just stop the security > checks, > and see what happens.

How many terrorists have been caught by the airport security checks? One? Two? One hundred? One thousand? Uhm, no. ZERO. Al Qaeda isn't interested in using jet airplanes as part of a terrorist attack anymore. Been there, done that, got the smoking hole in the ground to prove it. I have no doubt that Osama is working up another terrorist attack. But I am 99.99% certain that it will not involve jet airliners. Or small boats pulling up alongside U.S. navy ships. Or truck bombs driven into embassies. Or Ryder trucks left in garages. Osama never does anything twice. The Pakistani gang in Britain was a home-grown bunch of idiots whose "plot" was right out of a MacGyver episode. Osama knows that the results of any attempt to hijack a jet airliner today will *not* be a new 9/11 because nobody is going to just sit around and let their jet be crashed into a monument like they did on 9/11. The deal with Richard Reid (the shoe bomber) shows just how effective terrorism is now that people know they'll die anyhow if they let the terrorists hijack a plane. Hint: He had a dozen people sitting on him as soon as the stewardess noticed him trying to light up his shoe. Note that I have never recommended doing away with the security checks altogether. But use common sense, for cryin' out loud. The current over-reaction to the British toothpaste bombers breaks so many different rules of effective security that I couldn't list them all even if I wanted to spread that knowledge around for free (which I don't, for a number of reasons).

> Maybe we can get you a full time job as an airline Marshal or flight > attendant on the U.S. to Britain flights > Can I buy a life insurance policy on you?

Sorry, I'm way past the age where I'm interested in a job that has me on my feet all day. Been there, done that, got the flat feet to show it. Nowdays I figure out ways to improve security systems, and leave the flat foot stuff to younger folk. Remember the first rule of security: They really ARE out to get you. But generally the real bad guys (as vs. the wannabes) aren't going to be subtle about it. No nonsense about tricky titrations on a moving jet airliner. The notion that these dipsticks were going to make HDMT on a moving plane pretty much puts them into the "wannabe" category, the category that the cops always catch because they're all talk and no go. Remember, 9/11 was done with box cutters. In the meantime, I'll ride my KLR rather than a jet airliner. But not because of the terrorists, but, rather, because it's just too much hassle to fly. Luckily I don't have to fly. I pity the poor folks who have no choice. -E

[D Critchley]

You failed to explain what "satire" is. Pack a small bag and wait for a while. DC Matt Knowles wrote:

> After a team of 11 Arab terrorists were caught hatching a plan to > transport small dirty bombs into major metropolitan areas, the Federal > government announced new regulations to counter this latest threat. The > terrorists planned to use dual sport motorcycles to cross the border > from Canada to Montana, through the Dakotas and then they would split > up and head to 5 major metropolitan areas. Smuggled into their panniers > we > > >

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[D Critchley]

I took a long train trip not too long ago, no searching, no officious nitwits, it was nice. If these terrorists keep at it, we'll all be back on the rails. DC keithrstone wrote:

> I too was sick to realize how many bombs etc can be made out of > items that could be easily carried on. > > It's about time they do something about it. I agree with the > changes and will comply. > > As for being "tidied" over... if I can't go 4 hours without food or > drink then flying is the least of my problems. > > Everyone has a "vote" if they like a change or not.... if you like > it then do patronize the business, if not..... then don't. > > Keith > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "Blake Sobiloff" > wrote: > > > > OK, the TSA has officially lost its mind. Not that they had much > to > > begin with, but the latest round of "security upgrades" make me > sick. > > I can't even bring a bottle of water on the plane with me, but some > > terorrist with a rent-a-baby can smuggle who-knows-what in a > bottle as > > long as it has a nipple on it?! Give me a freakin' break. > > > > Of course, the commercial airlines are salivating over the > opportunity > > to quit giving away the 2 ounces of soda and the 5-cent bags of > > peanuts per passenger. They now have a captive audience that is > being > > strip searched by minimum wage goons with Federal government > badges to > > ensure that they don't bring any food or drink on board. Hello, > > profit center! Soon we'll be gratefully paying $10 for a few sips > of > > water and a small bag of peanuts to tide us over for the next four > > hours. Passengers will be doing their best Oliver Twist > > impersonations within a week ("Please, sir, may I have some more?") > > while the airlines start posting profits that the oil companies > envy. > > > > Frugal passengers will be met by armed Local Authorities for > sipping > > water from the lav faucets, illegally circumventing the > > Federally-guaranteed monopoly on drink service on-board. Movie > > theaters will soon be lobbying congress for similar protection and > > trying to find the local Hezbullah chapter to see if they woudn't > be > > willing to scare a few folks at the Sunday mantanee to help smooth > the > > deal. > > > > (And what do you want to bet I'm going to start seeing the "SSSS" > on > > my boarding passes after posting this rant? I believe it stands > for > > "Strip Search the Stuipd Sucker".) > > > > I give up. > > > > Anyone else want to buy into a private plane? I'm thinkin' a 182 > RG > > with a turbo and oxygen. Sure, it's not as fast as a 737, but 120+ > > knot cruise speed ain't bad. Plus, it'll buy me four hours on > every > > trip as I won't have to spend two hours at the airport dealing with > > security prior to each leg. Heck, I'll probably even be able to > land > > closer to my clients! > > > > -- > > Blake Sobiloff > > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/ http://sobiloff.typepad.com/>> > > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/ > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/>> > > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > >

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[Hedrek]

>remember we are at war..

War without end, amen! I think we have a crime problem. Antisocial idiots. There are several secret groups here in my town, Albuquerque. Southside Locos, Los Padillas, etc. They are armed. They steal stuff, shoot people, etc. No different on the world scale. They just do it for different reasons. You beat these folks like they did here, with good police work. Much more effective and much cheaper then blowing up stuff, then paying to rebuild it. Oh yeah, and it is impossible to be completely safe, so be reasonable in the limits on travel, etc. you put on people. Life is deadly, always has been. Hedrek in ABQ --- jokerloco9@... wrote:

> I also think that many people don't understand that > we are at war. I think > there are a lot of people in this country that > should ask around about what > sacrifice people of this country did during WW 2. > > And you are complaining about some inconvenience at > the airport, all for the > purpose of protecting YOU, for something nobody is > forcing you to do??? > > And thousand of our troops are risking their lives > so you can have the right > to choose to fly and travel at your convenience?? > And all of your other > rights you enjoy? Such as complaining about the > government? > > You should be ashamed of yourself. > > Jeff A20 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[revmaaatin]

Although Matt 'failed' to define satire, I think the general audience (including the privates, corporals and sergeants) understood the context of his post. For those above the rank of general audience, try this: FROM: Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/satire satire One entry found for satire. Main Entry: sat ire Pronunciation: 'sa-"tI(-&)r Function: noun Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin satura, satira, perhaps from (lanx) satura dish of mixed ingredients, from feminine of satur well-fed; akin to Latin satis enough -- more at SAD 1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn 2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly synonym see WIT My apoligies to those of the Naval Services, you will just have to admir-al the waves of humor. revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, D Critchley wrote: > > You failed to explain what "satire" is. Pack a small bag and wait for a > while. > DC > > Matt Knowles wrote: > > > After a team of 11 Arab terrorists were caught hatching a plan to > > transport small dirty bombs into major metropolitan areas, the Federal > > government announced new regulations to counter this latest threat. The > > terrorists planned to use dual sport motorcycles to cross the border > > from Canada to Montana, through the Dakotas and then they would split > > up and head to 5 major metropolitan areas. Smuggled into their panniers > > we > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[M.Matthews]

Nice example Matt. I find it disturbing that so many people seem to think that if one questions the gov't and doesn't give them a blank check on curbing liberty, spying, "war on terror" etc. that somehow that makes one evil or unpatriotic or something similar. If people are so frightened because of 9-11 and all the scary and dangerous things in life I first would suggest that they immediately disable their reproductive capabilities because it would be hypocritical and absolutely unacceptable that they bring any others into such a dangerous place. Secondly maybe they should build themselves a protective bubble around themselves (and pay for it themselves) to help calm their fears. That way some of us won't have to be subject to undesired loss of liberty and having to pay for wasteful giant bureaucracies and expensive gov't programs etc. because of others' fears. I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with the recent airport security actions or with other gov't security actions although I know from my past personal experience that security could have and should have been smarter, more effective and more efficient. I for one am not comfortable with not questioning loss of liberty that I value so dearly and that so many Americans fought for and that this country was founded upon. It might seem righteous to some to wave their flags, stick their made-in-china ribbons to their vehicles and proclaim that we need to give up any and all liberties the government/politicians deem necessary without daring to question it and to belittle and demonize those who dare to question it. I'm not one of those people. -Mike --- Matt Knowles wrote:

> After a team of 11 Arab terrorists were caught > hatching a plan to > transport small dirty bombs into major metropolitan > areas, the Federal > government announced new regulations to counter this > latest threat. The > terrorists planned to use dual sport motorcycles to > cross the border > from Canada to Montana, through the Dakotas and then > they would split > up and head to 5 major metropolitan areas. Smuggled > into their panniers > were small scale dirty bombs. Starting immediately, > the following > regulations will be in effect: > > Motorcycles will not be allowed to have any type of > luggage attached to > them, including soft bags or hard bags, even if they > were originally > installed by the factory. > > Dual Purpose motorcycles will now be banned as it is > too hard to secure > border crossings from vehicles with such easy off > road capability. > > We hope you understand these regulations are needed > for the security of > your country. It really shouldn't be an > inconvenience to anyone as no > one really needs to travel by motorcycle anyways. > > Remember, to protect our valuable freedoms, these > sacrifices are > needed. We can't let the terrorists control us. > > > > (And since I'm sure this email will illegally get > read by our snooping > government, let me make it perfectly clear: this is > satire.) > > Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - > http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles > '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) > '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast > backroads > '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt > '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle > I ever owned > >

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