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[Ronald Criswell]

Yep these are terrible cheap bikes. Shake you to pieces. You really need to spend 10 to 20 grand to have a good motorcycle. Cheap Japanese crap. Criswell

On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Doug Herr wrote: > On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hedrek wrote: > > > Similar here in Albuquerque. I tried to deal with 3 > > different dealers and go nowhere. I couldn't even get > > a new one - by the time I got in, they'd be sold. > > Eventually put money done on waiting list. Did get a > > nice 07 for list, $6,000 out the door. > > This sort of thing may be due to this list. We need to post much > less and make sure all the posts are negative. > > The KLR 650 sucks!!!! > > -- > Doug Herr > doug@... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[hal gainous]

what can the seller get for his bike if he tried to trade it in. check nada and or blue book. never pay more than retail. how much do you think you would be able to get someone to pay for it if you were trying to get rid of it. like the current owner is. but it's only money. hal2006

----- Original Message ----- From: kestrelfal To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: 8/7/2006 9:41:54 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: looking to purchase KLR650 and have some questions Naa. Accessories should have little $ value to a buyer, unless you really gotta have them; from a buyers standpoint better to value @ $0 and get 'em for free. Keep looking. KBB is great for sellers, sucks for buyers. Remember, the books are only a price *guide*. Personally I stay away from sellers who start high. Many times they're just unreasonable and it's just easier to move on ~ that is if you're price conscious. Then again, sometimes it's just easier in the long run to spend the bucks and go have fun. My two cents. Fred --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Gochenour" wrote: > > I just completed my Motorcycle Safety Class this weekend and I want to buy a > KLR650. There is one in my area and have some questions about a few items > he added to the bike which is why he is asking higher than KBB retail value: > > > > Front fork stabilizer - says it prevents the front fork from > wobbling on the interstate? > > Adjustable lowering kit - has three positions (how much does it > lower the bike and what effect does it have on the bike?) > > Front highway foot pegs - Can't make much difference to the > value. > > Soft saddle bags and small tank bag. These can't be much more > than $150? > > > > The guy is asking $900 over KBB retail. He might go lower but that is what > he is asking. > > > > Anyone have any ideas on the increased value of these items? Are they worth > the money? > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Steve > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest]

I purchased a new 2006 KLR for $4999 ($6K out the door), one place had a 2005 for $4800; another "premier" bike shop was listing it at $5900. It's not a very popular bike around Chicago (as a matter of fact I've yet to see one, so I get a lot of odd looks when I'm on mine), so there weren't any good used ones I could find. One friend did mention seeing a used one in Wisconsin but you have to wonder what some DPO would do to it out in the sticks. Overall, the price was low enough to offset any anxieties over DPO (mis/non)maintenance.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Hedrek wrote: > > Similar here in Albuquerque. I tried to deal with 3 > different dealers and go nowhere. I couldn't even get > a new one - by the time I got in, they'd be sold. > Eventually put money done on waiting list. Did get a > nice 07 for list, $6,000 out the door. > > There was a beautiful one on ebay I think in Austin > not long ago. Unlike Texas we usually (lately has > been weird) never get rain so motorcycles are popular > here. Lots of KLRs around here. > > Hedrek > > --- ggranger wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > I disagree with some of the other listers, in my > > area a KLR only comes up > > for sale about 2 or 3 times a year, so there are not > > that many used ones out > > there. I watched eBay for 6 months for dual sport > > bikes to get some idea > > what they go for in my area and around the country > > and even the oldest and > > crappiest KLR650/DR650/XR650L/XL650 went for $2500 > > to $3500. BMW 650's were > > $4000 and up. This was far above 'book value' on > > most of these machines. ANY > > KLR that comes up in the local swap sheet is usually > > gone the first day of > > the ad. I live in a rural area and decently priced > > dual-sports and 4 > > wheelers usually sell very fast. > > > > I ended up buying a 2000 KLR650 locally for $2500, > > had been jetted with > > after market exhaustand had brand new tires. It was > > priced above 'book > > value' ,according to the owner, by $700. But the > > bike had never been off > > road, the guy told me every problem it ever had, > > bike was in excellent > > condition, was serviced by the dealer (including > > valves, fork oil, oil > > changes) and ran great. It had 10K miles on it. MY > > limit was $3500 for any > > used KLR, any more and I would buy new. $2500 was > > just what i had in cash, > > so the cheaper the better. > > > > So I bought it, knowing full well a new ones was > > $5000+tax+title+tags, (no > > less in this area I knew 2 people who just bought > > one, and they both tried > > to deal furiously). I am very happy, everyone tells > > me I stole it. I think I > > got a 'good deal' for my area. > > > > SOOO...'book value' has some meaning but a bike can > > be worth more or less > > depending on condition, mods, miles and service > > record. The mods are usually > > worth half of what new would cost, IF you want that > > mod, mods you don't want > > are worthless. Bags, foot pegs, fork brace, etc are > > all common mods that you > > will be happy with when you have it. $900 over KBB > > retail seems like a lot, > > KBB retail is what you would expect to pay at a > > dealer, everything fixed > > with a warantee. Just offer what you are willing to > > pay and walk away if > > they don't come around. Don't be afraid to ask for > > sevice records etc. > > > > Good luck with the new machine, > > Gary > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Steve Gochenour > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:52 PM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] looking to purchase KLR650 and > > have some questions > > > > > > > > I just completed my Motorcycle Safety Class this > > weekend and I want to buy a > > KLR650. There is one in my area and have some > > questions about a few items > > he added to the bike which is why he is asking > > higher than KBB retail value: > > > > Front fork stabilizer - says it prevents the front > > fork from > > wobbling on the interstate? > > > > Adjustable lowering kit - has three positions (how > > much does it > > lower the bike and what effect does it have on the > > bike?) > > > > Front highway foot pegs - Can't make much difference > > to the > > value. > > > > Soft saddle bags and small tank bag. These can't be > > much more > > than $150? > > > > The guy is asking $900 over KBB retail. He might go > > lower but that is what > > he is asking. > > > > Anyone have any ideas on the increased value of > > these items? Are they worth > > the money? > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Steve > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

[Jim Link]

Chicago is only 5 hours away, anyone up there want a 05 KLR? I'll meet you just outside the city.. --- notanymoore wrote:

> I purchased a new 2006 KLR for $4999 ($6K out the > door), one place had > a 2005 for $4800; another "premier" bike shop was > listing it at $5900. > It's not a very popular bike around Chicago (as a > matter of fact I've > yet to see one, so I get a lot of odd looks when I'm > on mine), so > there weren't any good used ones I could find. One > friend did mention > seeing a used one in Wisconsin but you have to > wonder what some DPO > would do to it out in the sticks. > > Overall, the price was low enough to offset any > anxieties over DPO > (mis/non)maintenance. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Hedrek > wrote: > > > > Similar here in Albuquerque. I tried to deal with > 3 > > different dealers and go nowhere. I couldn't even > get > > a new one - by the time I got in, they'd be sold. > > Eventually put money done on waiting list. Did > get a > > nice 07 for list, $6,000 out the door. > > > > There was a beautiful one on ebay I think in > Austin > > not long ago. Unlike Texas we usually (lately has > > been weird) never get rain so motorcycles are > popular > > here. Lots of KLRs around here. > > > > Hedrek > > > > --- ggranger wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > I disagree with some of the other listers, in my > > > area a KLR only comes up > > > for sale about 2 or 3 times a year, so there are > not > > > that many used ones out > > > there. I watched eBay for 6 months for dual > sport > > > bikes to get some idea > > > what they go for in my area and around the > country > > > and even the oldest and > > > crappiest KLR650/DR650/XR650L/XL650 went for > $2500 > > > to $3500. BMW 650's were > > > $4000 and up. This was far above 'book value' on > > > most of these machines. ANY > > > KLR that comes up in the local swap sheet is > usually > > > gone the first day of > > > the ad. I live in a rural area and decently > priced > > > dual-sports and 4 > > > wheelers usually sell very fast. > > > > > > I ended up buying a 2000 KLR650 locally for > $2500, > > > had been jetted with > > > after market exhaustand had brand new tires. It > was > > > priced above 'book > > > value' ,according to the owner, by $700. But the > > > bike had never been off > > > road, the guy told me every problem it ever had, > > > bike was in excellent > > > condition, was serviced by the dealer (including > > > valves, fork oil, oil > > > changes) and ran great. It had 10K miles on it. > MY > > > limit was $3500 for any > > > used KLR, any more and I would buy new. $2500 > was > > > just what i had in cash, > > > so the cheaper the better. > > > > > > So I bought it, knowing full well a new ones was > > > $5000+tax+title+tags, (no > > > less in this area I knew 2 people who just > bought > > > one, and they both tried > > > to deal furiously). I am very happy, everyone > tells > > > me I stole it. I think I > > > got a 'good deal' for my area. > > > > > > SOOO...'book value' has some meaning but a bike > can > > > be worth more or less > > > depending on condition, mods, miles and service > > > record. The mods are usually > > > worth half of what new would cost, IF you want > that > > > mod, mods you don't want > > > are worthless. Bags, foot pegs, fork brace, etc > are > > > all common mods that you > > > will be happy with when you have it. $900 over > KBB > > > retail seems like a lot, > > > KBB retail is what you would expect to pay at a > > > dealer, everything fixed > > > with a warantee. Just offer what you are willing > to > > > pay and walk away if > > > they don't come around. Don't be afraid to ask > for > > > sevice records etc. > > > > > > Good luck with the new machine, > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Steve Gochenour > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:52 PM > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] looking to purchase KLR650 > and > > > have some questions > > > > > > > > > > > > I just completed my Motorcycle Safety Class this > > > weekend and I want to buy a > > > KLR650. There is one in my area and have some > > > questions about a few items > > > he added to the bike which is why he is asking > > > higher than KBB retail value: > > > > > > Front fork stabilizer - says it prevents the > front > > > fork from > > > wobbling on the interstate? > > > > > > Adjustable lowering kit - has three positions > (how > > > much does it > > > lower the bike and what effect does it have on > the > > > bike?) > > > > > > Front highway foot pegs - Can't make much > difference > > > to the > > > value. > > > > > > Soft saddle bags and small tank bag. These can't > be > > > much more > > > than $150? > > > > > > The guy is asking $900 over KBB retail. He might > go > > > lower but that is what > > > he is asking. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on the increased value of > > > these items? Are they worth > > > the money? > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >

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[Don S]

Hi Jim. I think the comment about Wisconsin and DPO in the sticks is a little harsh. For your information, many, if not most urban dwellers are quite adept at and very much maintenance conscious. I'd say, probably more so that the average city slicker. When you live in the "sticks", it's a long way to the hardware store. Maintenance is essential. In addition to the above, all of Wisconsin is not "sticks". If you want "sticks", come to Northwestern Ontario. You'll see sticks. Don Jim Link wrote: Chicago is only 5 hours away, anyone up there want a 05 KLR? I'll meet you just outside the city.. --- notanymoore wrote:

> I purchased a new 2006 KLR for $4999 ($6K out the > door), one place had > a 2005 for $4800; another "premier" bike shop was > listing it at $5900. > It's not a very popular bike around Chicago (as a > matter of fact I've > yet to see one, so I get a lot of odd looks when I'm > on mine), so > there weren't any good used ones I could find. One > friend did mention > seeing a used one in Wisconsin but you have to > wonder what some DPO > would do to it out in the sticks. > > Overall, the price was low enough to offset any > anxieties over DPO > (mis/non)maintenance. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Hedrek > wrote: > > > > Similar here in Albuquerque. I tried to deal with > 3 > > different dealers and go nowhere. I couldn't even > get > > a new one - by the time I got in, they'd be sold. > > Eventually put money done on waiting list. Did > get a > > nice 07 for list, $6,000 out the door. > > > > There was a beautiful one on ebay I think in > Austin > > not long ago. Unlike Texas we usually (lately has > > been weird) never get rain so motorcycles are > popular > > here. Lots of KLRs around here. > > > > Hedrek > > > > --- ggranger wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > I disagree with some of the other listers, in my > > > area a KLR only comes up > > > for sale about 2 or 3 times a year, so there are > not > > > that many used ones out > > > there. I watched eBay for 6 months for dual > sport > > > bikes to get some idea > > > what they go for in my area and around the > country > > > and even the oldest and > > > crappiest KLR650/DR650/XR650L/XL650 went for > $2500 > > > to $3500. BMW 650's were > > > $4000 and up. This was far above 'book value' on > > > most of these machines. ANY > > > KLR that comes up in the local swap sheet is > usually > > > gone the first day of > > > the ad. I live in a rural area and decently > priced > > > dual-sports and 4 > > > wheelers usually sell very fast. > > > > > > I ended up buying a 2000 KLR650 locally for > $2500, > > > had been jetted with > > > after market exhaustand had brand new tires. It > was > > > priced above 'book > > > value' ,according to the owner, by $700. But the > > > bike had never been off > > > road, the guy told me every problem it ever had, > > > bike was in excellent > > > condition, was serviced by the dealer (including > > > valves, fork oil, oil > > > changes) and ran great. It had 10K miles on it. > MY > > > limit was $3500 for any > > > used KLR, any more and I would buy new. $2500 > was > > > just what i had in cash, > > > so the cheaper the better. > > > > > > So I bought it, knowing full well a new ones was > > > $5000+tax+title+tags, (no > > > less in this area I knew 2 people who just > bought > > > one, and they both tried > > > to deal furiously). I am very happy, everyone > tells > > > me I stole it. I think I > > > got a 'good deal' for my area. > > > > > > SOOO...'book value' has some meaning but a bike > can > > > be worth more or less > > > depending on condition, mods, miles and service > > > record. The mods are usually > > > worth half of what new would cost, IF you want > that > > > mod, mods you don't want > > > are worthless. Bags, foot pegs, fork brace, etc > are > > > all common mods that you > > > will be happy with when you have it. $900 over > KBB > > > retail seems like a lot, > > > KBB retail is what you would expect to pay at a > > > dealer, everything fixed > > > with a warantee. Just offer what you are willing > to > > > pay and walk away if > > > they don't come around. Don't be afraid to ask > for > > > sevice records etc. > > > > > > Good luck with the new machine, > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Steve Gochenour > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:52 PM > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] looking to purchase KLR650 > and > > > have some questions > > > > > > > > > > > > I just completed my Motorcycle Safety Class this > > > weekend and I want to buy a > > > KLR650. There is one in my area and have some > > > questions about a few items > > > he added to the bike which is why he is asking > > > higher than KBB retail value: > > > > > > Front fork stabilizer - says it prevents the > front > > > fork from > > > wobbling on the interstate? > > > > > > Adjustable lowering kit - has three positions > (how > > > much does it > > > lower the bike and what effect does it have on > the > > > bike?) > > > > > > Front highway foot pegs - Can't make much > difference > > > to the > > > value. > > > > > > Soft saddle bags and small tank bag. These can't > be > > > much more > > > than $150? > > > > > > The guy is asking $900 over KBB retail. He might > go > > > lower but that is what > > > he is asking. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on the increased value of > > > these items? Are they worth > > > the money? > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >

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[Jim Link]

To everyone: I was not the person who made this comment, My only comment was I should drive to chicago to sell my KLR, Please look over the Thread closely. --- Don S wrote:

> Hi Jim. > > I think the comment about Wisconsin and DPO in the > sticks is a little harsh. For your information, > many, if not most urban dwellers are quite adept at > and very much maintenance conscious. I'd say, > probably more so that the average city slicker. > When you live in the "sticks", it's a long way to > the hardware store. Maintenance is essential. In > addition to the above, all of Wisconsin is not > "sticks". If you want "sticks", come to > Northwestern Ontario. You'll see sticks. > > Don > > Jim Link wrote: > Chicago is only 5 hours away, anyone up > there want a > 05 KLR? I'll meet you just outside the city.. > > --- notanymoore wrote: > > > I purchased a new 2006 KLR for $4999 ($6K out the > > door), one place had > > a 2005 for $4800; another "premier" bike shop was > > listing it at $5900. > > It's not a very popular bike around Chicago (as a > > matter of fact I've > > yet to see one, so I get a lot of odd looks when > I'm > > on mine), so > > there weren't any good used ones I could find. One > > friend did mention > > seeing a used one in Wisconsin but you have to > > wonder what some DPO > > would do to it out in the sticks. > > > > Overall, the price was low enough to offset any > > anxieties over DPO > > (mis/non)maintenance. > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Hedrek > > wrote: > > > > > > Similar here in Albuquerque. I tried to deal > with > > 3 > > > different dealers and go nowhere. I couldn't > even > > get > > > a new one - by the time I got in, they'd be > sold. > > > Eventually put money done on waiting list. Did > > get a > > > nice 07 for list, $6,000 out the door. > > > > > > There was a beautiful one on ebay I think in > > Austin > > > not long ago. Unlike Texas we usually (lately > has > > > been weird) never get rain so motorcycles are > > popular > > > here. Lots of KLRs around here. > > > > > > Hedrek > > > > > > --- ggranger wrote: > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > I disagree with some of the other listers, in > my > > > > area a KLR only comes up > > > > for sale about 2 or 3 times a year, so there > are > > not > > > > that many used ones out > > > > there. I watched eBay for 6 months for dual > > sport > > > > bikes to get some idea > > > > what they go for in my area and around the > > country > > > > and even the oldest and > > > > crappiest KLR650/DR650/XR650L/XL650 went for > > $2500 > > > > to $3500. BMW 650's were > > > > $4000 and up. This was far above 'book value' > on > > > > most of these machines. ANY > > > > KLR that comes up in the local swap sheet is > > usually > > > > gone the first day of > > > > the ad. I live in a rural area and decently > > priced > > > > dual-sports and 4 > > > > wheelers usually sell very fast. > > > > > > > > I ended up buying a 2000 KLR650 locally for > > $2500, > > > > had been jetted with > > > > after market exhaustand had brand new tires. > It > > was > > > > priced above 'book > > > > value' ,according to the owner, by $700. But > the > > > > bike had never been off > > > > road, the guy told me every problem it ever > had, > > > > bike was in excellent > > > > condition, was serviced by the dealer > (including > > > > valves, fork oil, oil > > > > changes) and ran great. It had 10K miles on > it. > > MY > > > > limit was $3500 for any > > > > used KLR, any more and I would buy new. $2500 > > was > > > > just what i had in cash, > > > > so the cheaper the better. > > > > > > > > So I bought it, knowing full well a new ones > was > > > > $5000+tax+title+tags, (no > > > > less in this area I knew 2 people who just > > bought > > > > one, and they both tried > > > > to deal furiously). I am very happy, everyone > > tells > > > > me I stole it. I think I > > > > got a 'good deal' for my area. > > > > > > > > SOOO...'book value' has some meaning but a > bike > > can > > > > be worth more or less > > > > depending on condition, mods, miles and > service > > > > record. The mods are usually > > > > worth half of what new would cost, IF you want > > that > > > > mod, mods you don't want > > > > are worthless. Bags, foot pegs, fork brace, > etc > > are > > > > all common mods that you > > > > will be happy with when you have it. $900 over > > KBB > > > > retail seems like a lot, > > > > KBB retail is what you would expect to pay at > a > > > > dealer, everything fixed > > > > with a warantee. Just offer what you are > willing > > to > > > > pay and walk away if > > > > they don't come around. Don't be afraid to ask > > for > > > > sevice records etc. > > > > > > > > Good luck with the new machine, > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Steve Gochenour > > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:52 PM > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] looking to purchase > KLR650 > > and > > > > have some questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just completed my Motorcycle Safety Class > this > > > > weekend and I want to buy a > > > > KLR650. There is one in my area and have some > > > > questions about a few items > > > > he added to the bike which is why he is asking > > > > higher than KBB retail value: > > > > > > > > Front fork stabilizer - says it prevents the > > front > > > > fork from > > > > wobbling on the interstate? > > > > > > > > Adjustable lowering kit - has three positions > > (how > > > > much does it > > > > lower the bike and what effect does it have on > > the > > > > bike?) > > > > > > > > Front highway foot pegs - Can't make much >

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[hotfoot777]

I've been away clearing my head for awhile. Will be back soon.