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[Guest]

Hey there, I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: http://biggunexhaust-review.com/

[John Kokola]

Apparently it's not common enough. Heh. --John Kokola Marcus wrote:

> > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/message/159906;_ylc=X3oDMTM3M291Y3Q4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMTU5OTA2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE1MzQ1Mzk2MQR0cGNJZAMxNTk5MDY-> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNDh0a2I4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMTU5OTA2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE1MzQ1Mzk2MQ--?act=reply&messageNum=159906> > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups > http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJjMmRvbWpwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDZ2ZwBHN0aW1lAzExNTM0NTM5NjE-> > > You are receiving Individual Emails Change Delivery Settings > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJlOWhwNzhsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDc3RuZ3MEc3RpbWUDMTE1MzQ1Mzk2MQ--> > > Visit Your Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650;_ylc=X3oDMTJjcWRjYmpzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDaHBmBHN0aW1lAzExNTM0NTM5NjE-> > | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> | > Unsubscribe > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > New Message Search > > Find the message you want faster. Visit your group to try out the > improved message search. > > Share feedback on the new changes to Groups > http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJsaHI5cWkyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwSWQDNDg4Mzg1BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDEyNjI2MgRzZWMDbmNtb2QEc2xrA2ZkYmNrBHN0aW1lAzExNTM0NTM5NjA-;_ylg=1/SIG=11im36rmb/**http%3a//surveylink.yahoo.com/wix/p1412899.aspx> > > Recent Activity > > * > 39 > New Members > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaDE0OTBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE1MzQ1Mzk2MQ--> > * > 13 > New Photos > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/spnew;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYXFoZmljBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdnBob3QEc3RpbWUDMTE1MzQ1Mzk2MQ--> > > Visit Your Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcjMyZnBxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE2MDAxMjYyNjIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMTUzNDUzOTYx> > > . > >

[J. Christopher Krok]

> 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning > Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins > Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT) > > Hey there, > > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: > > http://biggunexhaust-review.com/

I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after installing the system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be doing it any favors. Krokko -- J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D. Big Cee Engineering KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ

[sfmongo1]

?????????????????? I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun Race for over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is a great exhaust. How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden??? Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or something?? --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J. Christopher Krok" wrote:

> > > > 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning > > Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins > > Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT) > > > > Hey there, > > > > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge

these

> > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: > > > > http://biggunexhaust-review.com/ > > I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can > exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after

installing the

> system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be

doing it any

> favors. > > Krokko > > -- > J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D. > Big Cee Engineering > KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ >

[Matt Knowles]

As one who has put up web pages (although I haven't gone to the trouble to purchase a whole new domain) to warn people away from companies, I'll offer my insight. I'm a firm believer in having principles and in karma. I've been royally screwed by a few companies that after trying to resolve the problem with them I was left very dissatisfied to the point that I was mad as hell and I wasn't going to take it anymore. So I figured the one small benefit I could get out of the situation would be to warn others not to make the same mistake in dealing with these companies. I get a little bit of satisfaction every time I get an email from someone saying thanks for the warning. One page that I put up (Google "Prestige Camera") gets about 250 visits a month, and I get at least one email a week from someone thanking me for the information. I even got a written letter from someone thanking me, that really surprised me. So I know that I've cost Prestige far more than the $50 it would have cost them to resolve the complaint. Every company may have problems from time to time, I know I screw up. But the big difference is what does the company do to try to resolve the problem, and was it an honest mistake or were they really trying to deceive you and rip you off. In the case of Big Gun, I have no direct experience with them. But your own admission that you had the end cap fall off of a two year old exhaust seems to validate the point that the web site was making. One final word, when ever dealing with a new company on the Internet, I now Google the company name to check out their reputation.

On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, sfmongo1 wrote: > ?????????????????? > > I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun > Race for over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is > a great exhaust. How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden??? > Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or > something?? Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Bryan Pershall]

Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order right now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling my order after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from other, members and aftermarket exhausts. Bryan Pershall BP Computer Consultants IT Consultant MCSE/Dell Certified Office: 281-469-6456 Cell: 281-732-7225 -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sfmongo1 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:04 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Big Gun exhaust warning ?????????????????? I usually don't get involved but I have been running the Big Gun Race for over two years and other than losing the end cap once it is a great exhaust. How do these things pop up...?? all of a sudden??? Is there a White's or Supertrapp guy on an infiltration mission or something?? --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J. Christopher Krok" wrote:

> > > > 11a. Big Gun exhaust warning > > Posted by: "Marcus" camus_a@... junkkins > > Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm (PDT) > > > > Hey there, > > > > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge

these

> > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: > > > > http://biggunexhaust-review.com/ > > I've also known people who have had problems with the aluminum can > exhausts, but I wonder if that guy rejetted his bike after

installing the

> system? Running stock jetting through that thing wouldn't be

doing it any

> favors. > > Krokko > > -- > J. Christopher Krok, Ph.D. > Big Cee Engineering > KLR650 Accessories and home of the FAQ >

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[kestrelfal]

Maybe the BG system needs a flex/slip/expansion joint and mounting/attachment improvements? (or a redesign?) Fred

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus" wrote: > > Hey there, > > I know the poor quality of Big Gun exhausts is common knowledge these > days but I found this site and wanted to pass it on: > > http://biggunexhaust-review.com/ >

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 06:09:16PM -0500, Bryan Pershall wrote:

> Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order right > now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling my order > after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from other, members and > aftermarket exhausts.

Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an aftermarket exhaust is going to do you? They're a little lighter. But they _don't_ add any useful amount of horsepower (even with rejetting) on the KLR, many of them lack a USFS approved spark arrestor (meaning you risk an expensive ticket in lots of fun offroad areas) and many of them fall apart. Plus they're all louder, which hurts access for every rider of every off-road and dual-sport vehicle everywhere. Thor

[Bryan Pershall]

Well the good in it, of course the weight, and the look is a plus. Then the noise is a plus to me , maybe not to a lot of other people, but I want a little bit more noise out of the bike, and the horse power increase I have read is noticeable, and I like tinkering with things so stock is not what I want. Bryan Pershall BP Computer Consultants IT Consultant MCSE/Dell Certified Office: 281-469-6456 Cell: 281-732-7225 -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thor Lancelot Simon Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:19 AM To: Bryan Pershall Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Big Gun exhaust warning

On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 06:09:16PM -0500, Bryan Pershall wrote: > Man you guys raises a lot of doubt. I have a big gun on back order > right now, it ships in a couple of weeks. I am debating on canceling > my order after hearing all of this. Lets get some more input from > other, members and aftermarket exhausts. Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an aftermarket exhaust is going to do you? They're a little lighter. But they _don't_ add any useful amount of horsepower (even with rejetting) on the KLR, many of them lack a USFS approved spark arrestor (meaning you risk an expensive ticket in lots of fun offroad areas) and many of them fall apart. Plus they're all louder, which hurts access for every rider of every off-road and dual-sport vehicle everywhere. Thor Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:19 PM, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> Well, let's start with this one: what good, exactly, do you think an > aftermarket exhaust is going to do you?

I think I've said this before, but here's what *I'd* like out of an aftermarket exhaust: 1) A deeper tone: Not louder, just not sounding like an oversized lawnmower (even though it is) 2) Lighter weight 3) No tweet! 4) No repacking 5) USFS-approved spark arrester I haven't found one that can meet all those requirements, but I'd probably buy it if I could. As a last resort I may end up sending my stock exhaust down to MultisurfaceMotorcycling and have them do their end cap work to get rid of the tweet. However, as I discovered yesterday, new fork boots have suddenly shot up to the top of my priority list! -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)