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[jokerloco9@aol.com]

You apparently did not get the joke. So I will spell it out for you. "to each his own" Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 1:17 PM -0400 7/1/06, Jokerloco9@... wrote: Apparently you believe that a Jeep Commander is more desirable to everyone than a Harley whatever you said. Thank You for having the wisdom for knowing what everyone wants. No, I was just using a random, comparably-priced vehicle that is more machine for the money. I could have chosen just about any $30,000 car. Shit, a used 1978 Cessna 152 is more machine at $30,000 Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

And a overhead cam and liquid cooling means what? Is that some measure of perfection? The pinnacle of engine design??? Is that why the KLR engine is such a powerhouse?? Who cares? At least with the Harley, you won't have the coolant leaks and coolant changes to do. Who cares? Perhaps you should get off your butt and out from behind the TV, and stop reading the bike magazines comparing the smallest trivial details to find a winner, long enough to realize it doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. Yeah, right, a GSXR is better than a FZR because it weighs 3.8 pounds less, makes 2.7 HP more, and goes around a track .89 seconds faster. Who cares? Do you even know what an overhead cam is? Or why it is considered better?? Or the advantage of liquid cooling over air cooling?? If any?? Did you know the most powerful engines in the would are pushrod design? Surprise!!!! Just like a Harley!!! Surprise!!! (Top Fuel dragsters, 500 cubic inch, 7000+ HP, pushrod Chrysler Hemi 1960's design). Yes, I'm sure an overhead cam liquid cooled version would make more power. Who cares?? The point is, it still works. 99 % of the people on bikes won't ever know the difference. NEWS FLASH: people have different tastes. Whatever floats your boat. You think you are better off on your thrifty KLR as opposed to some dumb Harley owner that got "taken for a ride" on the cost of his ride? I always laugh at how people gush about the very latest techno whiz-crap this week, and would not be caught dead with it one year from now, as it is outdated. Who cares? Just because it is old doesn't mean it doesn't work. I think the real people with ego problems are some KLR riders here talking about other bikes. Are you tired of people thumbing your nose at you for riding your plastic bike?? Do you secretly wish you had a Harley, but can't afford it? Who cares? Get a life, and keep this nonsense crap off this list. It is comparing apples to oranges. Jeff A20 (which I ride everywhere, cause I can't believe anyone would steal it) GSXR1000 (that I have ridden 300 miles in 3 years because it is so damn uncomfortable) HD Heritage Softail (for taking the girls on rides) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 1:13 PM -0400 7/1/06, Jokerloco9@... wrote: You apparently did not get the joke. So I will spell it out for you. "to each his own" Your delivery didn't exactly come across as tongue-in-cheek. "de gustibus non est disputandum" Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don S]

Reel it in Jeff. This is a discussion group. We're all entitled to our opinions. Sounds like you have blown a gasket! Maybe take a little nap and have sweet dreams of your Harley Stratton. You got to lighten up a bit. Regards, Don Jokerloco9@... wrote: And a overhead cam and liquid cooling means what? Is that some measure of perfection? The pinnacle of engine design??? Is that why the KLR engine is such a powerhouse?? Who cares? At least with the Harley, you won't have the coolant leaks and coolant changes to do. Who cares? Perhaps you should get off your butt and out from behind the TV, and stop reading the bike magazines comparing the smallest trivial details to find a winner, long enough to realize it doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. Yeah, right, a GSXR is better than a FZR because it weighs 3.8 pounds less, makes 2.7 HP more, and goes around a track .89 seconds faster. Who cares? Do you even know what an overhead cam is? Or why it is considered better?? Or the advantage of liquid cooling over air cooling?? If any?? Did you know the most powerful engines in the would are pushrod design? Surprise!!!! Just like a Harley!!! Surprise!!! (Top Fuel dragsters, 500 cubic inch, 7000+ HP, pushrod Chrysler Hemi 1960's design). Yes, I'm sure an overhead cam liquid cooled version would make more power. Who cares?? The point is, it still works. 99 % of the people on bikes won't ever know the difference. NEWS FLASH: people have different tastes. Whatever floats your boat. You think you are better off on your thrifty KLR as opposed to some dumb Harley owner that got "taken for a ride" on the cost of his ride? I always laugh at how people gush about the very latest techno whiz-crap this week, and would not be caught dead with it one year from now, as it is outdated. Who cares? Just because it is old doesn't mean it doesn't work. I think the real people with ego problems are some KLR riders here talking about other bikes. Are you tired of people thumbing your nose at you for riding your plastic bike?? Do you secretly wish you had a Harley, but can't afford it? Who cares? Get a life, and keep this nonsense crap off this list. It is comparing apples to oranges. Jeff A20 (which I ride everywhere, cause I can't believe anyone would steal it) GSXR1000 (that I have ridden 300 miles in 3 years because it is so damn uncomfortable) HD Heritage Softail (for taking the girls on rides) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

Look at the post more carefully. You will see a few "....." after that comment. That is kind of like putting a "smiley" after something. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

And I could have bought a nice Cessna 152 in 1989 for about $600)-$8000 when I worked at the airport. What does that tell you. Prices went up because of supply and demand. In the Cessna case, it is limited supply (they ain't making any more) until recently. For the Harley, it is demand is greater than supply. Hope you have fun driving your Cessna down the highway. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim]

I don't happen to have a problem with Harleys in general. If thats what someone likes, ride it. I don't care for the Harley rider mentality (anything else on the road is a piece of junk), and I'm with Mark on the technology-for-dollar comparison. For half the price of a Harley, I can get a V-4 ST1300 with more power, smoother engine, better ride and handling, etc. I don't believe in pricing something with a desirable name and inferior product very high just because some people are ignorant enough to buy them. If a Harley tourer cost half as much as a Gold Wing, or even a Yamaha Royal Star, then I'd say it was fair pricing. But pricing a Harley similar to a Commander, which has FAR more engineering, technology, etc., is just foolish. Then again, I guess enough people are willing to spend the money, so Harley makes out like a bandit. Its amazing what marketing and hype will do for a product. Jim --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > At 1:17 PM -0400 7/1/06, Jokerloco9@... wrote: > Apparently you believe that a Jeep Commander is more desirable to > everyone than a Harley whatever you said. > > Thank You for having the wisdom for knowing what everyone wants. > > No, I was just using a random, comparably-priced vehicle that is more > machine for the money. I could have chosen just about any $30,000 > car. > Shit, a used 1978 Cessna 152 is more machine at $30,000 > > Mark > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Thane Silliker]

At 03:00 AM 01/07/2006, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> I just don't get the whole leather thing, >especially the assless chaps. It just reeks of gay.

What about these assless chaps: http://www.silliker.ca/PortDover.jpg Thane London, Ontario IBA #210 STOC #730

[John Kokola]

Those are OK. --John Kokola Thane Silliker wrote:

> At 03:00 AM 01/07/2006, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > > I just don't get the whole leather thing, > >especially the assless chaps. It just reeks of gay. > > What about these assless chaps: > > http://www.silliker.ca/PortDover.jpg > http://www.silliker.ca/PortDover.jpg> > >