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[dwdickersonjr]

Hello all. I see people saying they have 2500 or so miles on the stock Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles on my 2 month old KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute is asphalt, but I live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I have a couple miles of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - the reason I bought the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a guesstimate I'd say I should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll be worn to the point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience that unusual? If my tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle rider, what the heck are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k miles or so? MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, either. Started brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 inches. Haven't had a bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains being living hell. I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once a week. I do lube it every morning before heading to work, but I'm wondering WTF. How many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? Don

[Denis Dimick]

Just rolled over 18,000 miles and I considered the bike to be still "new". I ran into one a few months ago that had 44,000 miles on it. So do your maintenance and the bike may out last you. As for tires, I got 12,000 off of my stock set, however I'm seeing about 5,000 miles on a set of Kenda 270's now. A lot depends on how hard you ride your bike and how much you use the breaks. HtH, Denis

On 6/28/06, dwdickersonjr wrote: > > Hello all. I see people saying they have 2500 or so miles on the stock > Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles on my 2 month old > KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute is asphalt, but I > live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I have a couple miles > of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - the reason I bought > the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a guesstimate I'd say I > should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll be worn to the > point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience that unusual? If my > tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle rider, what the heck > are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k miles or so? > MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, either. Started > brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 inches. Haven't had a > bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains being living hell. > I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once a week. I do lube > it every morning before heading to work, but I'm wondering WTF. How > many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? > > Don > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don S]

Your highways must be made of silk. I do most of my riding on chip-seal asphalt which is quite abrasive compared to regular asphalt. My Dunlop rear was finished at 3000 miles. Actually, at 3000 miles, the rear was beyond finished. I was holding out for the MEFOs to arrive and was riding it fairly bald. I had to mount a K270 rear to hold me over. I don't have any problems with it other than the howl. I'd say that either your highways are very smooth or someone at Dunlop mixed up a decent batch of rubber for your set of tires. Don dwdickersonjr wrote: Hello all. I see people saying they have 2500 or so miles on the stock Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles on my 2 month old KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute is asphalt, but I live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I have a couple miles of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - the reason I bought the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a guesstimate I'd say I should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll be worn to the point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience that unusual? If my tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle rider, what the heck are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k miles or so? MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, either. Started brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 inches. Haven't had a bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains being living hell. I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once a week. I do lube it every morning before heading to work, but I'm wondering WTF. How many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? Don --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don S]

Hi Denis. Twelve thousand miles on a set of Dunlops 750s? Certainly, you jest! What are you riding on? Moss? Don Denis Dimick wrote: Just rolled over 18,000 miles and I considered the bike to be still "new". I ran into one a few months ago that had 44,000 miles on it. So do your maintenance and the bike may out last you. As for tires, I got 12,000 off of my stock set, however I'm seeing about 5,000 miles on a set of Kenda 270's now. A lot depends on how hard you ride your bike and how much you use the breaks. HtH, Denis

On 6/28/06, dwdickersonjr wrote: > > Hello all. I see people saying they have 2500 or so miles on the stock > Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles on my 2 month old > KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute is asphalt, but I > live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I have a couple miles > of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - the reason I bought > the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a guesstimate I'd say I > should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll be worn to the > point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience that unusual? If my > tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle rider, what the heck > are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k miles or so? > MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, either. Started > brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 inches. Haven't had a > bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains being living hell. > I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once a week. I do lube > it every morning before heading to work, but I'm wondering WTF. How > many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? > > Don > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[M.Matthews]

I got a over 6000 miles on my original rear tire with approximately 50% dirt miles. After 3-4k miles the center tread was pretty worn but it was still usable for me until a little over 6k miles. I'm very easy on tires and don't spin them much. -Mike --- Don S wrote:

> Your highways must be made of silk. I do most of my > riding on chip-seal asphalt which is quite abrasive > compared to regular asphalt. My Dunlop rear was > finished at 3000 miles. Actually, at 3000 miles, > the rear was beyond finished. I was holding out for > the MEFOs to arrive and was riding it fairly bald. > I had to mount a K270 rear to hold me over. I don't > have any problems with it other than the howl. > > I'd say that either your highways are very smooth > or someone at Dunlop mixed up a decent batch of > rubber for your set of tires. > > Don > > dwdickersonjr wrote: > Hello all. I see people saying they have > 2500 or so miles on the stock > Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles > on my 2 month old > KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute > is asphalt, but I > live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I > have a couple miles > of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - > the reason I bought > the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a > guesstimate I'd say I > should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll > be worn to the > point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience > that unusual? If my > tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle > rider, what the heck > are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k > miles or so? > MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, > either. Started > brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 > inches. Haven't had a > bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains > being living hell. > I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once > a week. I do lube > it every morning before heading to work, but I'm > wondering WTF. How > many miles is the average rider getting from their > KLR's? > > Don > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small > Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[dwdickersonjr]

OK, so maybe this isn't so unusual. I work in west Houston, and I'm sure anyone in the forum from the area will tell you Houston does not have silk roads! An extensive network of lunar simulations, maybe. Looks like I'm expecting maybe 7k miles or so before I need new tires, and then I think I'll be looking for MEFO's to replace the Dunlops. Besides, I have yet to find a source for Dunlop K750's. I have no complaints about the Dunlops other than being a bit squirrely in mud. Ya'll be dangerous! Don

[Pat Schmid]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "dwdickersonjr" wrote:

> > How > many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? > > Don >

Lot of variables can go into tire life. I normally run the IRC GP1s. I normall get about 4500 miles out oif a rear tire. If I get in a lot of dirt, I've had a tire wear out in as little as 2000 miles - on my pure dirt bike a 1000 miles from a rear tire would be outstanding. I have a friend with a KLR that also runs the GP1. He very rarely goes off the pavement and he got 8500 miles from his. Pat G'ville, NV Motorcycling, no known cure.

[Bill Watson]

Wow, the tire-life numbers really do vary. My riding has been mostly street commuting on Phoenix freeways (so quiet it's like you're wearing slippers on carpet!) and I changed out the factory Dunlop K750 rear at 9,000 miles. It was ready to go at 8,000 by most people's standards, but I ran it another thousand. I'm still running the stock K750 front, it now has 12,500 on it and has a ways to go... maybe at 15-16K it will be time. Clearly I'm not aggressive on tire wear, I'm averaging 65-67 mpg. I am the mileage weenie of the group. Bill Watson Phoenix --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Are you sure your bike works? --- Bill Watson wrote:

> Wow, the tire-life numbers really do vary. My > riding has been mostly street commuting on Phoenix > freeways (so quiet it's like you're wearing slippers > on carpet!) and I changed out the factory Dunlop > K750 rear at 9,000 miles. It was ready to go at > 8,000 by most people's standards, but I ran it > another thousand. I'm still running the stock K750 > front, it now has 12,500 on it and has a ways to > go... maybe at 15-16K it will be time. > > Clearly I'm not aggressive on tire wear, I'm > averaging 65-67 mpg. I am the mileage weenie of the > group. > > Bill Watson > Phoenix > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[Michael Silverstein]

Some variables external to the tires themselves include: - Road surface material - Road surface temperature - Road surface condition (cracks and potholes) - Proportion of hills vs. level roads - Curviness of road - Dampness of road surface - Weight of rider and load - Air resistance of rider and load - Rate of acceleration/deceleration - Frequency of acceleration/deceleration Mike A18 KLR650 tires page: [www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires] -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Schmid Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:59 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: How is this possible? --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com"DSN_KLR650@..., "dwdickersonjr" wrote:

> > How > many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? > > Don >

Lot of variables can go into tire life. I normally run the IRC GP1s. I normall get about 4500 miles out oif a rear tire. If I get in a lot of dirt, I've had a tire wear out in as little as 2000 miles - on my pure dirt bike a 1000 miles from a rear tire would be outstanding. I have a friend with a KLR that also runs the GP1. He very rarely goes off the pavement and he got 8500 miles from his. Pat G'ville, NV Motorcycling, no known cure. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]