favourite modifications - reserve gas on the right side???

[Don S]

I noticed a reference to reserve. Second time for this thread. What is the deal with reserve? I hit reserve a few days ago and stopped to fuel up a few minutes later. It took only 18.7 litres fo fill it. That means I should have 4.3 litres or 1.13 gallons of fuel left in reserve. That should be good for 60+ miles. Is there a problem accessing the fuel and if so, what's the fix? Don S. fasteddiecopeman wrote: Norm, MINE had to be changing out the (appeared to still have useable tread) OEM Dunlop front tire for a 3.25 x 21 K270. NOW my front end doesn't wash-out on snotty surfaces... and I don't have to change my underwear as often DURING rides! Ed PS Oh yah - and putting gas in ASAP after hitting reserve! Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Peplinski]

Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only on one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas on the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there?

>From: Don S >To: fasteddiecopeman , >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal >with reserve? >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT) > >I noticed a reference to reserve. Second time for this thread. What is >the deal with reserve? I hit reserve a few days ago and stopped to fuel up >a few minutes later. It took only 18.7 litres fo fill it. That means I >should have 4.3 litres or 1.13 gallons of fuel left in reserve. That >should be good for 60+ miles. Is there a problem accessing the fuel and if >so, what's the fix? > > Don S. > >fasteddiecopeman wrote: > Norm, >MINE had to be changing out the (appeared to still have useable tread) OEM >Dunlop front >tire for a 3.25 x 21 K270. NOW my front end doesn't wash-out on snotty >surfaces... and I >don't have to change my underwear as often DURING rides! >Ed > >PS Oh yah - and putting gas in ASAP after hitting reserve! > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only on > one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas on > the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of > your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the > possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you > won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see > where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on > the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 > gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator > for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there? > >

For my money, the best system is a reserve tap and a resettable trip meter. The GF's K75 has an idiot light that goes on at about 90 miles. The bike runs out of gas at somewhere between 160 and 180 miles. The only way to find out your range is to run the bike out, and then you're sitting by the side of the road with your cellphone in hand, unless you brought some extra fuel.

[Don S]

Thanks for the explanation Mike. Just out of curriosity, does the petcock assembly come right off of the fuel tank and if so, would it be possible to put a small piece of fuel line to work as a pick-up for the inaccessible fuel? Don Mike Peplinski wrote: Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only on one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas on the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there?

>From: Don S >To: fasteddiecopeman , >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal >with reserve? >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT) > >I noticed a reference to reserve. Second time for this thread. What is >the deal with reserve? I hit reserve a few days ago and stopped to fuel up >a few minutes later. It took only 18.7 litres fo fill it. That means I >should have 4.3 litres or 1.13 gallons of fuel left in reserve. That >should be good for 60+ miles. Is there a problem accessing the fuel and if >so, what's the fix? > > Don S. > >fasteddiecopeman wrote: > Norm, >MINE had to be changing out the (appeared to still have useable tread) OEM >Dunlop front >tire for a 3.25 x 21 K270. NOW my front end doesn't wash-out on snotty >surfaces... and I >don't have to change my underwear as often DURING rides! >Ed > >PS Oh yah - and putting gas in ASAP after hitting reserve! > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

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[Don S]

Hi Jud: Every fill up, I set the trip meter to zero. I hit reserve the last time at 232 miles which works out 56.5 miles per Canadain gallon (approx. 47 miles per US gallon) . I was in some 40 mph head winds and was running fairly hard. Thus the poor mileage. The next day, things calmed down and I went for a 60 mile ride and got 70 miles per Canadain Gallon (58.4 mpg US). To verify your response, mileage can vary considerably from one day to the next. In this case, almost 20%. Nonetheless, the trip meter gives a pretty good indicator for approximate fuel supply. It would be nice to have a digital instrument that could have a sending unit installed in the tank that could calculate available volume as the fuel is depleted. Just dreaming..... Don Jud Jones wrote:

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote: > > Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only on > one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas on > the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of > your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the > possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you > won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see > where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on > the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 > gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator > for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there? > > For my money, the best system is a reserve tap and a resettable trip meter. The GF's K75 has an idiot light that goes on at about 90 miles. The bike runs out of gas at somewhere between 160 and 180 miles. The only way to find out your range is to run the bike out, and then you're sitting by the side of the road with your cellphone in hand, unless you brought some extra fuel. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

A while back, someone posted their cure, wherein they added line to access the fuel in the right side when on reserve. I thought I'd kept it, but no. Ed

[Michael Silverstein]

Does the IMS tank have this same problem? I've been trying to find an excuse to buy one for a year. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fasteddiecopeman > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:29 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's > the deal with reserve? > > > A while back, someone posted their cure, wherein they added > line to access the fuel in the > right side when on reserve. I thought I'd kept it, but no. > Ed >

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[Ed Chait]

One of my favorite mods was taking a stack of washers and bolt and using them to add some height to my rear brake pedal. As engineered, the rear brake pedal is just too low for where I like my pedal to be, and there is really little to no adjustment available. Cheap easy mod that gave me the brake position and feel that I like. ed A17

[Mike Peplinski]

I don't know but the KLR petcock should not be taken lightly. Its not a simple on-off switch. Someone has done a thread or instructional on tapping into the right side. Maybe a lister can help.

>From: Don S >To: Mike Peplinski , fasteddiecopeman@..., >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal >with reserve? >Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 06:34:46 -0700 (PDT) > >Thanks for the explanation Mike. > > Just out of curriosity, does the petcock assembly come right off of the >fuel tank and if so, would it be possible to put a small piece of fuel line >to work as a pick-up for the inaccessible fuel? > > Don > >Mike Peplinski wrote: > Yes, big problem. In case you haven' t noticed the fuel pickup is only >on >one side but the reserve fuel is evenly split so the reaminder of the gas >on >the right hand side of the frame hump is inaccessible. Thats about half of >your reserve which means you've now only got about 30 miles. Than the >possiblity that you won't get a full 60MPG plus the possibility that you >won't get every drop in the tank could mean 20 miles. I think you can see >where this could go. Sure you can tilt the bike and get some of the gas on >the right side but the point is that you very likely don't have a full 1.13 >gallons of fuel to work with. Too bad there isn't a fuel gage or indicator >for the KLR. Any clever inventor-types out there? > > > >From: Don S > >To: fasteddiecopeman , > >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Favourite Modifications - What's the deal > >with reserve? > >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I noticed a reference to reserve. Second time for this thread. What is > >the deal with reserve? I hit reserve a few days ago and stopped to fuel >up > >a few minutes later. It took only 18.7 litres fo fill it. That means I > >should have 4.3 litres or 1.13 gallons of fuel left in reserve. That > >should be good for 60+ miles. Is there a problem accessing the fuel and >if > >so, what's the fix? > > > > Don S. > > > >fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > Norm, > >MINE had to be changing out the (appeared to still have useable tread) >OEM > >Dunlop front > >tire for a 3.25 x 21 K270. NOW my front end doesn't wash-out on snotty > >surfaces... and I > >don't have to change my underwear as often DURING rides! > >Ed > > > >PS Oh yah - and putting gas in ASAP after hitting reserve! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:

> > Does the IMS tank have this same problem? I've been trying to find an > excuse to buy one for a year.

It looks as if it ought to, but I have to say there can't be a whole lot of inaccessible fuel. The first time I filled my IMS tank, it took 7.2 gallons. I have since put 7.1 into it on a refill and the bike was still running, so I guess I was getting most of the fuel out of it, even making allowance for the possibility that the tank may have stretched, and for the certainty that not all pumps read the same.