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[robert_striemer]

Hi My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people with small feet. He is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift lever geometry. 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size 11?) what have you done - other than adjusting the height of the shifter? I have a friend who is an aircraft machinist who could easily fabricate something but I would like your ideas and opinions as to the best approach. Would it for example be better to lengthen (and bend?) the shifter or relocate the foot pegs? 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They require springs? Is the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any issues? 3)I tried to set up an account at Totally Wired Cycles with the idea to purchase the ATO fuse kits. No go. Is Tammy taking a holiday or what? Thanks again, Rob

[Michael Silverstein]

If your machinist friend is looking for something to do I've often wanted to find a way to move the footpegs back a few inches. I think people with long legs such as myself tend to sit pretty far back on the seat, which puts their legs out in front a bit too much. That would also solve the shift lever problem, assuming long legs usually end in big feet. I'd definitely be interested in buying a footpeg relocation kit if it wasn't too expensive. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robert_striemer > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:44 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shifter, footpegs and Tammy > > > Hi > > My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people with small feet. He > is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift lever geometry. > > 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size 11?) what have you > done - other than adjusting the height of the shifter? I have a > friend who is an aircraft machinist who could easily fabricate > something but I would like your ideas and opinions as to the best > approach. Would it for example be better to lengthen (and bend?) the > shifter or relocate the foot pegs? > > 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They require springs? Is > the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any issues?

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[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:43:41 -0000 "robert_striemer" writes: SNIP

> 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They require springs? > Is > the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any issues?

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> Thanks again, > > Rob

<><><><><> <><><><><> Rob, I suppose the DR footpegs would work without the springs. All the springs do is hold the pegs in the deployed position. I thought it was pretty obvious how the springs install when I did the first pair. It takes about 1 minute per side to install the new pegs and springs. If you'd like a picture let me know and I'll send you one. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Douglas Bouley]

Sign me up. I'd try it, too. (6'3", 32" inseam, size 14 boots) Would love to have some more room for the boots. This is not unlike the idea of cutting off the front row of teeth on the Dual Star pegs. Longer bent shifter would be worth a shot, but wonder about it hanging out from the case in rough stuff... Would it be more likely to get messed up? Dunno. No off-road experience on the KLR to speak of... Perhaps one the rescue folks in the group could arrange access to a borrowed Hurst tool to be used for foot-shortening? Michael Silverstein wrote:

> If your machinist friend is looking for something to do I've often > wanted to find a way to move the footpegs back a few inches. I think > people with long legs such as myself tend to sit pretty far back on the > seat, which puts their legs out in front a bit too much. That would also > solve the shift lever problem, assuming long legs usually end in big > feet. I'd definitely be interested in buying a footpeg relocation kit if > it wasn't too expensive. > > Mike A18 > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robert_striemer >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:44 AM >> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shifter, footpegs and Tammy >> >> >> Hi >> >> My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people with small feet. He >> is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift lever geometry. >> >> 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size 11?) what have you >> done - other than adjusting the height of the shifter? I have a >> friend who is an aircraft machinist who could easily fabricate >> something but I would like your ideas and opinions as to the best >> approach. Would it for example be better to lengthen (and bend?) the >> shifter or relocate the foot pegs? >> >> 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They require springs? Is >> the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any issues? >> > >

[Randall Marbach]

Sign me up too... I am one of the listers that cut the front row of teeth off of my IMS pegs. (I did both sides before I realized I only had to do the shifter side ) Cutting the teeth and installing an IMS shifter now gives me enough room for my size 14 Alpinestars. However, at 6'7" 270 lbs. I feel I am still to big for the bike. Even though I have renthal bars and eagle risers, I cannot stand on the bike comfortably for more than a few minutes, and I find myself leaning way over the front of the bike.. and crashing accordingly. It makes a big difference in my KLR's stability in the dirt if I stand rather than sit. At JimmyLewis school, Jim said that riding a bike in the dirt should be like standing in a bar... you should be able to stand comfortably all day. So gotta figure out how to make my KLR as comfortable as a bar.. I am exploring relocating the pegs back and down, building some sort of offset bar risers that will move the bars forward and up and some ATV bars that will raise the bars. I also need to figure out how to raise the height of the rear brake lever so that I can stop while leaning back over the rear of the bike. HTH Randy from Burbank --- Douglas Bouley wrote:

> Sign me up. I'd try it, too. (6'3", 32" inseam, size > 14 boots) Would > love to have some more room for the boots. > > This is not unlike the idea of cutting off the front > row of teeth on the > Dual Star pegs. > > Longer bent shifter would be worth a shot, but > wonder about it hanging > out from the case in rough stuff... Would it be more > likely to get > messed up? Dunno. No off-road experience on the KLR > to speak of... > > Perhaps one the rescue folks in the group could > arrange access to a > borrowed Hurst tool to be used for foot-shortening? > > > Michael Silverstein wrote: > > If your machinist friend is looking for something > to do I've often > > wanted to find a way to move the footpegs back a > few inches. I think > > people with long legs such as myself tend to sit > pretty far back on the > > seat, which puts their legs out in front a bit too > much. That would also > > solve the shift lever problem, assuming long legs > usually end in big > > feet. I'd definitely be interested in buying a > footpeg relocation kit if > > it wasn't too expensive. > > > > Mike A18 > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > robert_striemer > >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:44 AM > >> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shifter, footpegs and Tammy > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people > with small feet. He > >> is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift > lever geometry. > >> > >> 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size > 11?) what have you > >> done - other than adjusting the height of the > shifter? I have a > >> friend who is an aircraft machinist who could > easily fabricate > >> something but I would like your ideas and > opinions as to the best > >> approach. Would it for example be better to > lengthen (and bend?) the > >> shifter or relocate the foot pegs? > >> > >> 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They > require springs? Is > >> the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any > issues? > >> > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Douglas Bouley]

Alas. I have to sit down in a bar. This peg relocation thing sounds like it might have real possibilities. Wonder what a prototype from a machinist would cost... I betcha Eagle Mike could make one mighty quick. TOD (The Other Doug) Randall Marbach wrote:

> Sign me up too... > > I am one of the listers that cut the front row of > teeth off of my IMS pegs. (I did both sides before I > realized I only had to do the shifter side ) > Cutting the teeth and installing an IMS shifter now > gives me enough room for my size 14 Alpinestars. > > However, at 6'7" 270 lbs. I feel I am still to big for > the bike. Even though I have renthal bars and eagle > risers, I cannot stand on the bike comfortably for > more than a few minutes, and I find myself leaning way > over the front of the bike.. and crashing accordingly. > It makes a big difference in my KLR's stability in the > dirt if I stand rather than sit. > > At JimmyLewis school, Jim said that riding a bike in > the dirt should be like standing in a bar... you > should be able to stand comfortably all day. So gotta > figure out how to make my KLR as comfortable as a > bar.. > > > I am exploring relocating the pegs back and down, > building some sort of offset bar risers that will move > the bars forward and up and some ATV bars that will > raise the bars. I also need to figure out how to raise > the height of the rear brake lever so that I can stop > while leaning back over the rear of the bike. > > > HTH > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > --- Douglas Bouley wrote: > > >> Sign me up. I'd try it, too. (6'3", 32" inseam, size >> 14 boots) Would >> love to have some more room for the boots. >> >> This is not unlike the idea of cutting off the front >> row of teeth on the >> Dual Star pegs. >> >> Longer bent shifter would be worth a shot, but >> wonder about it hanging >> out from the case in rough stuff... Would it be more >> likely to get >> messed up? Dunno. No off-road experience on the KLR >> to speak of... >> >> Perhaps one the rescue folks in the group could >> arrange access to a >> borrowed Hurst tool to be used for foot-shortening? >> >> >> Michael Silverstein wrote: >> >>> If your machinist friend is looking for something >>> >> to do I've often >> >>> wanted to find a way to move the footpegs back a >>> >> few inches. I think >> >>> people with long legs such as myself tend to sit >>> >> pretty far back on the >> >>> seat, which puts their legs out in front a bit too >>> >> much. That would also >> >>> solve the shift lever problem, assuming long legs >>> >> usually end in big >> >>> feet. I'd definitely be interested in buying a >>> >> footpeg relocation kit if >> >>> it wasn't too expensive. >>> >>> Mike A18 >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >>>> >> robert_striemer >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:44 AM >>>> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shifter, footpegs and Tammy >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people >>>> >> with small feet. He >> >>>> is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift >>>> >> lever geometry. >> >>>> 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size >>>> >> 11?) what have you >> >>>> done - other than adjusting the height of the >>>> >> shifter? I have a >> >>>> friend who is an aircraft machinist who could >>>> >> easily fabricate >> >>>> something but I would like your ideas and >>>> >> opinions as to the best >> >>>> approach. Would it for example be better to >>>> >> lengthen (and bend?) the >> >>>> shifter or relocate the foot pegs? >>>> >>>> 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They >>>> >> require springs? Is >> >>>> the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any >>>> >> issues? >> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> Archive Quicksearch at: >> >> > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >> www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

[Matt Brooks]

Yes, please make these!!!!! I'd order a set immediately!!!! Matt B. whose foot actually keeps getting bigger even though I am over the age of 30!!! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Bouley wrote:

> > Alas. I have to sit down in a bar. > > This peg relocation thing sounds like it might have real

possibilities.

> Wonder what a prototype from a machinist would cost... I betcha

Eagle

> Mike could make one mighty quick. > > TOD (The Other Doug) > > Randall Marbach wrote: > > Sign me up too... > > > > I am one of the listers that cut the front row of > > teeth off of my IMS pegs. (I did both sides before I > > realized I only had to do the shifter side ) > > Cutting the teeth and installing an IMS shifter now > > gives me enough room for my size 14 Alpinestars. > > > > However, at 6'7" 270 lbs. I feel I am still to big for > > the bike. Even though I have renthal bars and eagle > > risers, I cannot stand on the bike comfortably for > > more than a few minutes, and I find myself leaning way > > over the front of the bike.. and crashing accordingly. > > It makes a big difference in my KLR's stability in the > > dirt if I stand rather than sit. > > > > At JimmyLewis school, Jim said that riding a bike in > > the dirt should be like standing in a bar... you > > should be able to stand comfortably all day. So gotta > > figure out how to make my KLR as comfortable as a > > bar.. > > > > > > I am exploring relocating the pegs back and down, > > building some sort of offset bar risers that will move > > the bars forward and up and some ATV bars that will > > raise the bars. I also need to figure out how to raise > > the height of the rear brake lever so that I can stop > > while leaning back over the rear of the bike. > > > > > > HTH > > > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > > > > > > --- Douglas Bouley wrote: > > > > > >> Sign me up. I'd try it, too. (6'3", 32" inseam, size > >> 14 boots) Would > >> love to have some more room for the boots. > >> > >> This is not unlike the idea of cutting off the front > >> row of teeth on the > >> Dual Star pegs. > >> > >> Longer bent shifter would be worth a shot, but > >> wonder about it hanging > >> out from the case in rough stuff... Would it be more > >> likely to get > >> messed up? Dunno. No off-road experience on the KLR > >> to speak of... > >> > >> Perhaps one the rescue folks in the group could > >> arrange access to a > >> borrowed Hurst tool to be used for foot-shortening? > >> > >> > >> Michael Silverstein wrote: > >> > >>> If your machinist friend is looking for something > >>> > >> to do I've often > >> > >>> wanted to find a way to move the footpegs back a > >>> > >> few inches. I think > >> > >>> people with long legs such as myself tend to sit > >>> > >> pretty far back on the > >> > >>> seat, which puts their legs out in front a bit too > >>> > >> much. That would also > >> > >>> solve the shift lever problem, assuming long legs > >>> > >> usually end in big > >> > >>> feet. I'd definitely be interested in buying a > >>> > >> footpeg relocation kit if > >> > >>> it wasn't too expensive. > >>> > >>> Mike A18 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >>>> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > >>>> > >> robert_striemer > >> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:44 AM > >>>> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >>>> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shifter, footpegs and Tammy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> My son says my KLR is well suited to tall people > >>>> > >> with small feet. He > >> > >>>> is refering to the seat height and footpeg-shift > >>>> > >> lever geometry. > >> > >>>> 1) For those of you who have big feet (> size > >>>> > >> 11?) what have you > >> > >>>> done - other than adjusting the height of the > >>>> > >> shifter? I have a > >> > >>>> friend who is an aircraft machinist who could > >>>> > >> easily fabricate > >> > >>>> something but I would like your ideas and > >>>> > >> opinions as to the best > >> > >>>> approach. Would it for example be better to > >>>> > >> lengthen (and bend?) the > >> > >>>> shifter or relocate the foot pegs? > >>>> > >>>> 2) I have a pair of DR650 footpegs on order. They > >>>> > >> require springs? Is > >> > >>>> the installation (of the springs) obvious? Any > >>>> > >> issues? > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> Archive Quicksearch at: > >> > >> > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > >> www.dualsportnews.com > >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > >> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:

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[D Critchley]

Check your Birth Certificate, soon. DC Matt Brooks wrote:

>Yes, please make these!!!!! I'd order a set immediately!!!! > >Matt B. whose foot actually keeps getting bigger even though I am >over the age of 30!!! > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Bouley >wrote: > > >>Alas. I have to sit down in a bar. >> >>This peg relocation thing sounds like it might have real >> >> >possibilities. > > >>Wonder what a prototype from a machinist would cost... I betcha >> >> >Eagle > > >>Mike could make one mighty quick. >> >> >> > >

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[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Matt Knowles wrote:

> > Unfortunately, I have now had this experience, although on a tubeless > tire (on the Sprint) so it was probably more gradual than what Valerie > experienced. > > Main thing is just back off the throttle and ease your way over to the > nearest or safest shoulder. Do the final braking with the front and do > all your shifting smoothly. Let the bike wobble, since it's the rear > the fishtailing isn't really a problem. > > On May 12, 2006, at 12:16 PM, James W. Flower wrote: > > > Sounds pretty good riding to me. Say, what is the official drill for > > contolling a rear blowout? I've never had the pleasure. >

Pretty much what he said. I have had plenty of opportunities to ride a flat rear to a stop, and always done it wthout falling, pretty much on natural reactions. If you have ridden a lot of mud, or soft, saturated sand, I suppose it helps. On a couple of occasions I have handed off a passenger and luggage to a buddy, and ridden 15 or 20 miles on a flat rear tire to a more congenial location for repair. Only done this on a /5 with a K112, so I can't say how well it would work on another tire. Once you get up to 35 or 40, centrifugal expansion makes for a fairly stable ride, up to about 50. Speeding up and slowing down can be hairy, so its not a stunt you want to attempt in traffic. Anyway, a flat rear is a lot better than a flat front, which usually makes me fall down unless I am going pretty slow when it happens.