fs: 2001 klr tank, dent but otherwise solid

[Ralph E. Hanson]

Yes, you did leave the light on. Don't ask how I know. Here's the scoop: Make sure the gas and choke are on RUN. Get a friend to give you a push, drop it into second gear, release the clutch. As soon as the engine catches, pull the clutch in and give a rev or two. Not that I would know such things from experience.... Thanks again to everyone who helped me through this one. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph E. Hanson, Ph.D Room 308 Martin Hall Associate Professor West Virginia University P.I. Reed School of Journalism Morgantown, WV 26506-6010 rhanson@... (304) 293-3505, ext. 5412 http://www.wvu.edu/~journal2 --------------------------------------------------------------------

[jmnedge@alltel.net]

I've jumped my KLR a couple of times...you need pretty good hill and 2nd or 3rd gear...I also put the choke on....seems I always have to put the choke on! jeff A15

[Lourd Baltimore]

This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared up for my morning commute. I hop up on the seat and pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, see the green light, hit the starter and then I'm on my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. I fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have lights, but no starting. So sometime between tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's and bypass all the kill swtiches to see if one of those are failing. If that is not the problem and it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start the sucker. However, I've never really done that before. I imagine it invovles getting the bike up to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch out to turn the engine over. Am I on the right track here or can anyone offer a good e-starter-less starting technique? Also, any insight to the starting problem itself would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh A7 http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ . --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Analog Aardvark]

Go through the usual suspects with the safety switches, you can also try to jump the starter button with a scrap of wire to eliminate that as a possible culprit. Bump starting the beast is a bit of work because one big 650 cylinder is a lot of compression, even with the KACR business, and it will really try to lock the tire. The way you do it, though, is get it going as fast as you can in 3rd or 4th (or even 5th), hop on, stand up, and then drop down into the seat at the same moment you let the clutch out. You don't ease the clutch out, you just dump it. You don't *Have* to be on the bike when you dump the clutch as long as you're quick enough to pull it back in when the bike starts, but having that weight drop onto the rear tire makes a big difference in traction. YMMV. -Luke --- Lourd Baltimore wrote:

> This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared > up for my morning commute. I hop up on the seat and > pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a > little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, > see the green light, hit the starter and then I'm on > my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. > I fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have > lights, but no starting. So sometime between > tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's > and bypass all the kill swtiches to see if one of > those are failing. If that is not the problem and > it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start > the sucker. However, I've never really done that > before. I imagine it invovles getting the bike up > to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch > out to turn the engine over. Am I on the right > track here or can anyone offer a good e-starter-less > starting technique? Also, any insight to the > starting problem itself would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Josh > A7 > http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ > . > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[stevedyer@cox.net]

Josh, I've had better experience bump-starting vehicles in a higher gears - seems like 3rd works well or even 4th in some types of vehicles. The gearbox reduction that allows the engine to turn higher revs in first gear works against bump-starting - it tries to spin the engine faster than the higher gears and results in just locking up the rear wheel because of traction limitations. Higher gears aren't fighting against the same multiplication and allow the available traction from the rear wheel to turn the engine over. We're only trying to spin the engine as fast as the starter does. Or at least that's how it has worked for me. I think it is a natural reaction to try low gear first and in my youth had to learn the hard way on farm tractors, used cars and other recalcitrant machinery. Steve Dyer A13 1950's 8N Ford '71 VW whose radio did not turn off with the igntion key and a few other roll-starters... ---------- ---- Lourd Baltimore wrote: This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared up for my morning commute. I hop up on the seat and pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, see the green light, hit the starter and then I'm on my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. I fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have lights, but no starting. So sometime between tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's and bypass all the kill swtiches to see if one of those are failing. If that is not the problem and it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start the sucker. However, I've never really done that before. I imagine it invovles getting the bike up to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch out to turn the engine over. Am I on the right track here or can anyone offer a good e-starter-less starting technique? Also, any insight to the starting problem itself would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh A7 http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ .

[jhlrjr@att.net]

2nd gear works better. Jim -------------- Original message from Lourd Baltimore : --------------

> This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared up for my morning commute. > I hop up on the seat and pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a > little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, see the green light, hit the > starter and then I'm on my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. I > fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have lights, but no starting. So > sometime between tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's and bypass > all the kill swtiches to see if one of those are failing. If that is not the > problem and it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start the sucker. > However, I've never really done that before. I imagine it invovles getting the > bike up to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch out to turn the > engine over. Am I on the right track here or can anyone offer a good > e-starter-less starting technique? Also, any insight to the starting problem > itself would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Josh > A7 > http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ > . > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

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[Dan Paulsen]

If you are running and pushing you will have to run pretty damed fast to bump start it in 4th or 5 th gear! Maybe 3rd, tho I usually have best luck push/running bump start in 2nd on other bikes. KLR excluded as I never have had to bump start it. Dan P

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > Josh, > > I've had better experience bump-starting vehicles in a higher gears - seems like 3rd works well or even 4th in some types of vehicles. The gearbox reduction that allows the engine to turn higher revs in first gear works against bump-starting - it tries to spin the engine faster than the higher gears and results in just locking up the rear wheel because of traction limitations. Higher gears aren't fighting against the same multiplication and allow the available traction from the rear wheel to turn the engine over. We're only trying to spin the engine as fast as the starter does. > > Or at least that's how it has worked for me. I think it is a natural reaction to try low gear first and in my youth had to learn the hard way on farm tractors, used cars and other recalcitrant machinery. > > Steve Dyer > A13 > 1950's 8N Ford > '71 VW whose radio did not turn off with the igntion key > and a few other roll-starters... > > > ---------- > > > ---- Lourd Baltimore wrote: > This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared up for my morning commute. I hop up on the seat and pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, see the green light, hit the starter and then I'm on my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. I fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have lights, but no starting. So sometime between tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's and bypass all the kill swtiches to see if one of those are failing. If that is not the problem and it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start the sucker. However, I've never really done that before. I imagine it invovles getting the bike up to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch out to turn the engine over. Am I on the right track here or can anyone offer a good e-starter-less starting technique? Also, any insight to the starting problem itself would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Josh > A7 > http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ > . >

[Lourd Baltimore]

After 5 min. of reading the Clymer's and about 5 min. of labor, the bike is starting again. The side stand cutoff was the culprit. I think I'll leave it bypassed for the time being. Thanks to everyone for advice on electricals and bump starting. Although I didn't have to bump start it, it sounds like something I'll probably practice. Josh A7 http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ (And since people keep asking about the bike's finish, check this out - http://www.deepcreekcamo.com/truckaccessories.html) . Lourd Baltimore wrote: This morning, nice, clear and cool, I get all geared up for my morning commute. I hop up on the seat and pull the side stand in. I turn on the fuel, give a little choke, turn on the ignition and kill switch, see the green light, hit the starter and then I'm on my way to...nowhere. No starter cranking, silence. I fiddle around a bit still got nothing. I have lights, but no starting. So sometime between tonight and this weekend, I'll pull out my Clymer's and bypass all the kill swtiches to see if one of those are failing. If that is not the problem and it's the starter, I guess I'll have to bump start the sucker. However, I've never really done that before. I imagine it invovles getting the bike up to speed in first gear and slowly letting the clutch out to turn the engine over. Am I on the right track here or can anyone offer a good e-starter-less starting technique? Also, any insight to the starting problem itself would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh A7 http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650/ . --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[thomasroznovsky]

Make an offer if interested, I just don't want it to go to waste if someone can use it. Located in San Diego, shipping is kind of pricey but probably $25 to get anywhere via UPS. Pics at: http://home.san.rr.com/misc1357/klrtank/ Thanks, - thomas