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[Analog Aardvark]

First let me apologize for starting that oil thread--I got my answer about gasoline vs diesel oils in the first couple responses, I didn't mean to start a horse beating party. Now: My a17 seems to be leaking oil from the seal where the rod the shifter mounts to enters the engine. It's getting worse quick and I need to fix it. I seem to remember hearing that a couple of sheet metal screws driven into the seal at 9 and 3 o'clock can be used to pull it from the case (after the shift lever is removed of course). Can anyone confirm this or offer any advice? Has anyone replaced this seal? The workshop manual only gives advice for if you have the whole engine apart ("pry out the old seal"). I don't have a dentist pick or any of that fancy stuff, but if I *have to*, I'll go buy one. Second--and I'm sorry to ask such a helpless question--would any of you knowledgable folks mind bopping over to buykawasaki and confirming that the seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" I don't know if I can link to the pic, but here's an attempt: http://www.buykawasaki.com/scripts/ImgServ.exe/convert?ilFN=e:\epcimages\I12\I1289\E1411.TIF&ilIF=P&ilSC=25&ilIV=0&ilBR=0 It's a bit confusing. Thanks... I'm hoping to tear into the beast tomorrow, but I want to make sure I can get my seal first. -Luke A17... marking her territory something fierce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Dail]

Luke, I think you'll find the seal listed on the "engine cover" page ref # 92049A, part # 92049-1271, seal oil TB12205.5 Dail Pledge to Give the Gift of Sight! Learn more at www.hleb.org and www.mlerf.org!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Analog Aardvark" To: dsn_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Replacing seal where shifter exits engine??? | First let me apologize for starting that oil thread--I | got my answer about gasoline vs diesel oils in the | first couple responses, I didn't mean to start a horse | beating party. | | Now: | My a17 seems to be leaking oil from the seal where the | rod the shifter mounts to enters the engine. It's | getting worse quick and I need to fix it. I seem to | remember hearing that a couple of sheet metal screws | driven into the seal at 9 and 3 o'clock can be used to | pull it from the case (after the shift lever is | removed of course). Can anyone confirm this or offer | any advice? Has anyone replaced this seal? The | workshop manual only gives advice for if you have the | whole engine apart ("pry out the old seal"). I don't | have a dentist pick or any of that fancy stuff, but if | I *have to*, I'll go buy one. | | Second--and I'm sorry to ask such a helpless | question--would any of you knowledgable folks mind | bopping over to buykawasaki and confirming that the | seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" | I don't know if I can link to the pic, but here's an | attempt: | | http://www.buykawasaki.com/scripts/ImgServ.exe/convert?ilFN=e:\epcimages\I12\I1289\E1411.TIF&ilIF=P&ilSC=25&ilIV=0&ilBR=0 | | It's a bit confusing. | | Thanks... I'm hoping to tear into the beast tomorrow, | but I want to make sure I can get my seal first. | | -Luke | A17... marking her territory something fierce | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around | http://mail.yahoo.com | | | Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html | Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 | | -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06

[wannabsmooth1]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Analog Aardvark wrote:

> > First let me apologize for starting that oil thread--I > got my answer about gasoline vs diesel oils in the > first couple responses, I didn't mean to start a horse > beating party. > > Now: > My a17 seems to be leaking oil from the seal where the > rod the shifter mounts to enters the engine. It's > getting worse quick and I need to fix it. I seem to > remember hearing that a couple of sheet metal screws > driven into the seal at 9 and 3 o'clock can be used to > pull it from the case (after the shift lever is > removed of course). Can anyone confirm this or offer > any advice? Has anyone replaced this seal? The > workshop manual only gives advice for if you have the > whole engine apart ("pry out the old seal"). I don't > have a dentist pick or any of that fancy stuff, but if > I *have to*, I'll go buy one. > > Second--and I'm sorry to ask such a helpless > question--would any of you knowledgable folks mind > bopping over to buykawasaki and confirming that the > seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" > I don't know if I can link to the pic, but here's an > attempt: > >

http://www.buykawasaki.com/scripts/ImgServ.exe/convert?ilFN=e:\epcimages\I12\I1289\E1411.TIF&ilIF=P&ilSC=25&ilIV=0&ilBR=0

> > It's a bit confusing. > > Thanks... I'm hoping to tear into the beast tomorrow, > but I want to make sure I can get my seal first. > > -Luke > A17... marking her territory something fierce

Luke, Looks correct to me. My good monitor is at work, and the old eyes just ain't what they UTB. I'm pretty sure you're correctomundo. You might want to double check to be sure the chain lube isn't making you think oil is coming from there. Those seals are usually good for quite a while. all the best, Mike

[Dail]

Sorry Luke, Ignore This response... I misread your question Dail Pledge to Give the Gift of Sight! Learn more at www.hleb.org and www.mlerf.org!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dail" To: "klr650" dsn_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Replacing seal where shifter exits engine??? | Luke, I think you'll find the seal listed on the "engine cover" page | ref # 92049A, part # 92049-1271, seal oil TB12205.5 | Dail | | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Analog Aardvark" | To: dsn_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> | Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:47 PM | Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Replacing seal where shifter exits engine??? | | | | First let me apologize for starting that oil thread--I | | got my answer about gasoline vs diesel oils in the | | first couple responses, I didn't mean to start a horse | | beating party. | | | | Now: | | My a17 seems to be leaking oil from the seal where the | | rod the shifter mounts to enters the engine. It's | | getting worse quick and I need to fix it. I seem to | | remember hearing that a couple of sheet metal screws | | driven into the seal at 9 and 3 o'clock can be used to | | pull it from the case (after the shift lever is | | removed of course). Can anyone confirm this or offer | | any advice? Has anyone replaced this seal? The | | workshop manual only gives advice for if you have the | | whole engine apart ("pry out the old seal"). I don't | | have a dentist pick or any of that fancy stuff, but if | | I *have to*, I'll go buy one. | | | | Second--and I'm sorry to ask such a helpless | | question--would any of you knowledgable folks mind | | bopping over to buykawasaki and confirming that the | | seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" | | I don't know if I can link to the pic, but here's an | | attempt: | | | | | http://www.buykawasaki.com/scripts/ImgServ.exe/convert?ilFN=e:\epcimages\I12\I1289\E1411.TIF&ilIF=P&ilSC=25&ilIV=0&ilBR=0 | | | | It's a bit confusing. | | | | Thanks... I'm hoping to tear into the beast tomorrow, | | but I want to make sure I can get my seal first. | | | | -Luke | | A17... marking her territory something fierce | | | | __________________________________________________ | | Do You Yahoo!? | | Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around | | http://mail.yahoo.com | | | | | | Archive Quicksearch at: | http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html | | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com | | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html | | Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 | | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -- | | No virus found in this incoming message. | | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this outgoing message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 | | | | Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html | Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 | | -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06

[Dail]

Your correct Luke, the seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" sorry about my other response, I read your question as clutch release seal leaking my bad Dail Pledge to Give the Gift of Sight! Learn more at www.hleb.org and www.mlerf.org!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Analog Aardvark" To: dsn_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Replacing seal where shifter exits engine??? | First let me apologize for starting that oil thread--I | got my answer about gasoline vs diesel oils in the | first couple responses, I didn't mean to start a horse | beating party. | | Now: | My a17 seems to be leaking oil from the seal where the | rod the shifter mounts to enters the engine. It's | getting worse quick and I need to fix it. I seem to | remember hearing that a couple of sheet metal screws | driven into the seal at 9 and 3 o'clock can be used to | pull it from the case (after the shift lever is | removed of course). Can anyone confirm this or offer | any advice? Has anyone replaced this seal? The | workshop manual only gives advice for if you have the | whole engine apart ("pry out the old seal"). I don't | have a dentist pick or any of that fancy stuff, but if | I *have to*, I'll go buy one. | | Second--and I'm sorry to ask such a helpless | question--would any of you knowledgable folks mind | bopping over to buykawasaki and confirming that the | seal is part number "92050-082 seal oil" | I don't know if I can link to the pic, but here's an | attempt: | | http://www.buykawasaki.com/scripts/ImgServ.exe/convert?ilFN=e:\epcimages\I12\I1289\E1411.TIF&ilIF=P&ilSC=25&ilIV=0&ilBR=0 | | It's a bit confusing. | | Thanks... I'm hoping to tear into the beast tomorrow, | but I want to make sure I can get my seal first. | | -Luke | A17... marking her territory something fierce | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around | http://mail.yahoo.com | | | Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html | Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 | | -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06

[Analog Aardvark]

I'm definitely going to wash the whole thing spic and span before I dive in... kerosene and a toothbrush is my usual MO, though--dish soap sounds like too much work. I'm pretty sure it's the shift seal, as the amount of oil coming out has washed a clear path on my otherwise filthy engine (filthy from various crap, mostly chain lube drizzling down from the cover and getting covered in powdery jersey sand). But I'll be sure before I pull it out. -Luke --- Gary wrote:

> Luke,Before you tear into anything you really should > take the > sprocket cover off and degrease and wash the entire > area around the > countershaft and shift shaft.Liberally rub Liquid > dawn on the entire > area with your bare hands.If you first rub liquid > dawn all over your > hands and coat them good....I promise you will not > get grease on your > hands when you wash the engine case.if you can swing > it.....a high > pressure car wash wand is excellent for blowing off > the caked on > grease and dirt. > The point in all this, is to be able to clearly see > where the oil is > leaking.The countershaft can do a pretty good > impersination of a > leaking shift shaft.The O-ring on the transmission > countershaft(not > the seal that you see around the countershaft behind > the sprocket) > that seals the wide metal collar to the mainshaft > can go bad.The > O-ring is down the shaft further...just inside the > engine. > If the O-ring down on the mainshaft has gone > bad.....when you crank > the engine without the sprocket bolted on ...the oil > pressure will > push the metal collar right out.....and if you are > not quick,,,oil > gets everythwere.The rubber seal around the main > shaft is prolly ok to > reuse but if you use a new one..then you have to dig > the old one out > the best way you can.Tin screws sounds good to me.I > used a curved > needle nose plier to dig mine out. > Regards,Gary > > > >

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> Truth be told, I've been lurking in fear incurring the wrath of a certain > tow-truck driving A14 rider around these parts. I was trolling for him and > got you instead. Guess he just hasn't read it yet or he's so miffed he ain't > talkin to me. > > Steve > The Mule > A14 > >

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