kawasaki's klr650 engine oil recommendations

[sweetassdave]

Now for this oil discussion; discarding several refinments and lab. achievements is silly... There are definitely quality, fair, and poor oils. Valvoline, Pennsoil, Supertech are entry-level, non performance lubes. We could compare Valvoline to Amsoil and be shocked at the poor quality of Ashland Manufacturings low standards for 10w-40. Ashland is the gigantic company that refines for NAPA, Valvoline and a number of other generic oils(Wal-Mart's 'Supertech'). Lucas, Redline, or Amsoil have been created to be synthetic and high- performance. Recently Mobil and Valvoline have jumped on the 'synthetic bandwagon' but don't boast the level of technology and reliability. Remember, synthetics have been around since 1972 these smaller companies have had the single drive to make a better synthetic that doesn't break down and lacking natural properties of crude(varnish, gum, mineral deposits). None of us would drive all year with Wal-Mart brand oil under our hood or in our crankcases, but with a synthetic it wouldn't worry me. -Dave Berube

[Jim]

Can't resist.....................Were you just released from the Amsoil programming center? Yours Truly in Humor, Jim A17 --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sweetassdave" wrote:

> > Now for this oil discussion; discarding several refinments and lab. > achievements is silly... > There are definitely quality, fair, and poor oils. Valvoline, > Pennsoil, Supertech are entry-level, non performance lubes. > We could compare Valvoline to Amsoil and be shocked at the poor > quality of Ashland Manufacturings low standards for 10w-40. Ashland > is the gigantic company that refines for NAPA, Valvoline and a > number of other generic oils(Wal-Mart's 'Supertech'). > Lucas, Redline, or Amsoil have been created to be synthetic and high- > performance. Recently Mobil and Valvoline have jumped on > the 'synthetic bandwagon' but don't boast the level of technology > and reliability. Remember, synthetics have been around since 1972 > these smaller companies have had the single drive to make a better > synthetic that doesn't break down and lacking natural properties of > crude(varnish, gum, mineral deposits). > > None of us would drive all year with Wal-Mart brand oil under our > hood or in our crankcases, but with a synthetic it wouldn't worry me. > > -Dave Berube >

[scarysharkface]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:

> > None of us would drive all year with Wal-Mart brand oil under our > > hood or in our crankcases, > > -Dave Berube > > >

Um, some of us would... John

[Ed Chait]

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: >> > None of us would drive all year with Wal-Mart brand oil under our >> > hood or in our crankcases, > > -Dave Berube >> > >> > > Um, some of us would... > John >

And some of us have. I've been using Wal-Mart's 10W-30 Supertech synthetic and Supertech filters in our three cars for a couple years now. I only change it once a year. No problems. ed A17

[RM]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:24:42 -0000, "sweetassdave" said:

>None of us would drive all year with Wal-Mart brand oil under our >hood or in our crankcases, but with a synthetic it wouldn't worry me.

I do just exactly that, Dave. America's Favorite Retailer sells API-certified oils and they are not going to risk the wrath of the API or the FTC over mislabeled oils. My car calls for SJ, their oil meets SJ, case closed. RM

[RM]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:29:54 -0500, "Tengai Mark Van Horn" said:

> At 7:18 AM -0800 3/29/06, Blake Sobiloff wrote: > >I tried Shell's Rotella T 5W-40 pseudo-synth (it's really just well > >refined dead dinos) > > What's that supposed to mean? How can they label it as "synthetic" > if it's just refined crude? Or, are you splitting hairs? ... i.e., > Teflon is a pseudosythetic because the ethylene came from crude oil.

Rotella T 5W-40 is a Group III [quasi]synthetic. Sorry for providing a Spamsoil link, but it's about the best explanation I can find: http://www.synthetic-solutions.com/definitions.asp RM