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[Russell Scott]

I agree with Mark. The first two years on my KLR I rode it more like a dirt bike, and thrashed it good. Then I bought an XR650R for off-roading, and I am much more content with the KLR as a street bike and off-road crusier. I think Toby has gotten spoiled with his KTM 950 and XL650 rides. R -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Sampson Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:13 AM To: 'prackley'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Slide- Why so negative on the KLR? I guess I pretty much agreed with the article. But just as one example----the suspension--------yeh, single track aggressive offroad riders riding around in circles with a leash tied to their pickup truck (which I used to do) would scoff at the KLR suspension. However for me the softer suspension is a plus-----for doing really big 5 or 10,000 mile offroad and backroad rides. It all boils down to keeping any bike in its element. Everybody's got their own riding element. Get the bike out of it's element and the fun decreases. I love the KLR's "element". Mark Sampson www.bigdogadventures.com

[Mike Peplinski]

Mark my vote in "great bike" for the KLR. The 'Busa is a great bike, in its element. The BMW R1200RT is a great bike, in its element, the Honda Rebel 250 is a great bike, in its element. Any bike that does the job well that it was intended for is a "great bike" in my book. If the KLR were billed as a racer, a touring bike or a beginner bike I'd agree that it is "just OK" but it isn't, its designed as a do-it-all, Swiss Army Knife, Jack-of-All trades, all purpose bike. Does it not succeed? The defense rests.

>From: Krgrife@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Slide- Why so negative on the KLR? >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:48:15 EST > >In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:23:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >sysmatt@... writes: > >On 3/27/06, Mark Sampson wrote: > > > > But they have shown me that experiance > > goes alot farther than muscle and looks. And there HAS > > to be a reason alot of experianced riders ride the > > KLR. The KLR is just a great bike. > >The KLR is currently my only bike, I've owned it for 8 years and plan to >ride it for many more but " a great bike"? I have never thought so and >still >don't. So why do I keep on riding it and plan to for a long time? It has >middle of the road performance in all areas, really good at nothing but >able to >do a lot in a utilitarian fashion. I can ride it a thousand miles from my >home to my favorite places in Baja and then do the back roads there, but >if once >I'm there I was offered a DR or XL/XR to ride instead I would swap in a >heartbeat. I can't do long road trips on those bikes, they just don't fit >me >like the KLR does. I think Toby's review was actually pretty accurate and >he >certainly has put plenty of miles on KLR's. He was one of the early >members of >this list back in the xmission.com days when I joined in Spring '98 and >had >a KLR600 before the 650 which he still owns. > >Kurt > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[revmaaatin]

So Mr. Shultz, Best KLR stump speach in days! You have my vote! When you are senator of these United States, will you make it illegal for mean people to say bad things about our beloved KLR? Heck, I'll even vote twice for you on election day. I hear it is a Chicago tradition. or was it a NY/NJ/MS/LA etc tradition.... maaatin. "registered" voter.... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Shultz" wrote:

> > I agree. I think articles like this are good. From the number of

late

> model, barely ridden KLRs that I see being sold, I would guess

that

> there are a number of people who buy a KLR with unrealistic > expectations. As hard as it is to get a test ride, it's a good

thing

> when somebody comes along and points out its limitations versus a

true

> dirt bike. > > I still remember one review writtens years ago which stated that

the

> KLR was one of the best street bikes ever. That didn't help set > realistic expectations in my opinion. > > Even the best dual sport is a compromise: not the best at

anything,

> except maybe being good at many things. We need to get across the > concept of a dual sport: the true all-around bike, and stress the

fact

> that the KLR is inexpensive and has a tremendous aftermarket and

user

> community geared towards helping a buyer customize the bike to

what

> THEY need it to do. To me, that's the real strength of the KLR. > > That's my opinion for what it's worth. >

[Ronald Criswell]

I think you are right on this one. Most bikes that have or don't have any kind of following have ....... well you have probably heard the expression "There is no there there." A lot of bikes have had good a good intentioned market target .... but just don't get the response from the public. Take the greatest success story lately, Harleys. Too fat, too underpowered, don't handle too great, expensive. The VTX 1800 is certainly a better bike, or the Yamaha Warrior, or even the Victory is technically a better buy, certainly cheaper for sure. But Harley out sells the crap out of them. Go to a cruiser type function, 90 per cent are Harleys I'm sure. The Honda Blackbird should have had a following, a fast smooth well made bike, but Suzuki's Hyabusa and the Kawasaki ZX1200 and ZX1100's are what people bought. And the Hyabusa to me looks weird .... but it sells ..... because it is faster. The old Triumph Bonnevilles had plenty of shortcomings but people loved the Hell out of them. And my favorite, the old H1 Kawasaki 500 2 stroke. It didn't handle, it wobbled, it didn't have enough brakes but I loved mine. There was there there. Personality matters in business and in bikes. The KLR is gangly, homely ...... not particularly great at anything but price, but I love mine. Criswell

On Mar 27, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Mike Peplinski wrote: > Mark my vote in "great bike" for the KLR. The 'Busa is a great > bike, in its > element. The BMW R1200RT is a great bike, in its element, the Honda > Rebel > 250 is a great bike, in its element. Any bike that does the job > well that it > was intended for is a "great bike" in my book. If the KLR were > billed as a > racer, a touring bike or a beginner bike I'd agree that it is "just > OK" but > it isn't, its designed as a do-it-all, Swiss Army Knife, Jack-of- > All trades, > all purpose bike. Does it not succeed? The defense rests. > > >> From: Krgrife@... >> To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Slide- Why so negative on the KLR? >> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:48:15 EST >> >> In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:23:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> sysmatt@... writes: >> >> On 3/27/06, Mark Sampson wrote: >>> >>> But they have shown me that experiance >>> goes alot farther than muscle and looks. And there HAS >>> to be a reason alot of experianced riders ride the >>> KLR. The KLR is just a great bike. >> >> The KLR is currently my only bike, I've owned it for 8 years and >> plan to >> ride it for many more but " a great bike"? I have never thought >> so and >> still >> don't. So why do I keep on riding it and plan to for a long >> time? It has >> middle of the road performance in all areas, really good at >> nothing but >> able to >> do a lot in a utilitarian fashion. I can ride it a thousand >> miles from my >> home to my favorite places in Baja and then do the back roads >> there, but >> if once >> I'm there I was offered a DR or XL/XR to ride instead I would >> swap in a >> heartbeat. I can't do long road trips on those bikes, they just >> don't fit >> me >> like the KLR does. I think Toby's review was actually pretty >> accurate and >> he >> certainly has put plenty of miles on KLR's. He was one of the early >> members of >> this list back in the xmission.com days when I joined in Spring >> '98 and >> had >> a KLR600 before the 650 which he still owns. >> >> Kurt >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> Archive Quicksearch at: >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Charles Earl]

This is a long shot: is the balancer adjustment bolt still tightened? Charles Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:17:58 -0800 From: Blake Sobiloff

On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Jonathan G. Gibson wrote: > Out riding Sat night and had loss of power. At first I thought, > switch to reserve, nope. Power loss got worse, engine died. Re-started > got back on the road and noticed a loud clanking noise, power still > was > coming and going, noise getting worse. With a loud clanking noise I would not run the motor any further! Since you said the sound seems to be coming from the top, I'd take off the cam cover and see what I can see. Check the cam chain to see if it has good tension, the motor can be turned by hand without interference, etc. If you haven't replaced your doohickey I'd take off the left side engine covers and inspect that as well. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> San Jose, CA (USA) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com