fan on temp '05 klr

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for me for my birthday.) Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Jeff Saline]

Sean???, I've only had experience with one set of Nerf Bars and unfortunately it wasn't as good as I'd like. The bars limited the right turn by stopping the forks from turning to full stop. I'm hoping they've fixed this issue as my experience was about two years ago. Happy Trails never did respond to me when I notified them of the issue and how I eliminated it. Wasn't my bike but I've seen it a few times. Hope your install goes well and you're happy with the plate and bars. Happy Birthday, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:03:18 -0800 (PST) writes:

> Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for > me for my birthday.) > Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the > mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I > install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I > cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Andrew Tuning]

Being as I have had 2 sets of these same nerf bars on my bike, I can say from my experience that they are easier to install without the tank on the bike. It makes the top screws more accessible. I would install the bash plate last. I have a habit of dropping parts and tools and have to pull it off to retrieve them. I have had no problem accessing the radiator cap as you should be adding coolant to the plastic reservoir on the right side. (I will pass your e-mail onto Tim as he is my in-law.) -Andy andyt59@... http://myweb.cableone.net/tbernard -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of matteeanne@... Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Woo Hoo got my nerf bars and skid plate, now..... Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for me for my birthday.) Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[Andrew Tuning]

Ya know, I should proof read before I mail. I meant to say it is easier to put them on with the tank OFF. -Andy -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Tuning Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:51 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Woo Hoo got my nerf bars and skid plate, now..... Being as I have had 2 sets of these same nerf bars on my bike, I can say from my experience that they are easier to install without the tank on the bike. It makes the top screws more accessible. I would install the bash plate last. I have a habit of dropping parts and tools and have to pull it off to retrieve them. I have had no problem accessing the radiator cap as you should be adding coolant to the plastic reservoir on the right side. (I will pass your e-mail onto Tim as he is my in-law.) -Andy andyt59@... http://myweb.cableone.net/tbernard -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of matteeanne@... Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Woo Hoo got my nerf bars and skid plate, now..... Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for me for my birthday.) Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[revmaaatin]

Hi Sean, I am the one that Jeff helped me repair my mis-manufactured nerf bars, bought on ebay form a private owner. Here is the CAUTION to you and any one else that has NERF bars. After they are installed, make sure you can lock the forks in either left or right position. My forks struck the nerf bars on one side (right) and would only allow the fork lock to lock w the wheel to the left. You mihgt not think this is such a bad thing, except when it stikes the nerf bar before it hits the steering head stops, your radius of turn is GREATLY reducuced. I am certain the original owner had the same problem. IRT to Happy Trails not responding to Jeff's email, I figured they did not feel any need to help/respond/warrenty to anyone other than the "original" owner. (We told them we were not the original purchaser, and did not expect any replacement, etc). We only wanted them to know about the engineering/manufacturing problem. It appears to me, that for them to respond, would acknowledge a faulty product. Consequently, I have still have them installed, but would be very slow to recommend or purchase anything else from not-so-Happy Trails. It appears to be, quick to take your money, but slow to service. FWIW revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Sean???, > > I've only had experience with one set of Nerf Bars and unfortunately it > wasn't as good as I'd like. The bars limited the right turn by stopping > the forks from turning to full stop. I'm hoping they've fixed this issue > as my experience was about two years ago. Happy Trails never did respond > to me when I notified them of the issue and how I eliminated it. Wasn't > my bike but I've seen it a few times. > > Hope your install goes well and you're happy with the plate and bars. > > Happy Birthday, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:03:18 -0800 (PST) writes: > > Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for > > me for my birthday.) > > Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the > > mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I > > install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I > > cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[sd_ware]

I don't know if this was the problem found for the right turn issue with the nerfbar but a buddy of mine was having limited turning to the right and called HT to find that the PO had put the right nerfbar mount into the same bolt that is used for the left guard. It's a logical place but it's supposed to mount in the radiator attachment that is but further further back allowing for full turning. In my opinion, HT is making a mistake by using this mount as it is weakened with the combined radiator mounting. It would be better to add a tab so that it uses the long frame bolt. I'm also highly annoyed with HT and don't think I'll be purchasing anymore of their products no matter how nice they are. I bought the nerfbar from Fred recently and had a problem with the length of the bolt that goes through the frame for the left guard to set into the nut. I called HT and was told I must have been given a 6MX50 bolt instead of the 6MX55. I measured and that was exactly the problem. I was told that if I couldn't find one at a hardware store in my area they'd send me one. What I found was black allen bolt but it's not an exterior bolt and is rusting. I called and emailed HT for a replacement and was assured they'd send one out to me, both verbally and by phone. The communications with a person named Tim and then Todd were pleasant but I never got the bolt? To me, making a promise and then not following through is unacceptable customer rudeness! Still not sure what I can do about the bolt, my local hardware store says they can't get me a stainless bolt long enough. Doug

[Andrew Tuning]

In my father-in-laws defense: I have had 2 different sets of the Nerf bars on my bike. The first "original" was the set made with thinner tubing and I had absolutely no problem with the steering stop. Check what hole they are mounted in. If they are mounted in the far forward hole on the left side (known as IMPROPER INSTALLATION) Then yeah, your gonna hit them full stop left. As far as emailing and looking for a response. Computers are a faulty mechanical device. If you felt a response was warranted, then pick up the phone!! 800-444-8770 or (208) 377-8771 -Andy -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of revmaaatin Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:24 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Woo Hoo got my nerf bars and skid plate, now..... Hi Sean, I am the one that Jeff helped me repair my mis-manufactured nerf bars, bought on ebay form a private owner. Here is the CAUTION to you and any one else that has NERF bars. After they are installed, make sure you can lock the forks in either left or right position. My forks struck the nerf bars on one side (right) and would only allow the fork lock to lock w the wheel to the left. You mihgt not think this is such a bad thing, except when it stikes the nerf bar before it hits the steering head stops, your radius of turn is GREATLY reducuced. I am certain the original owner had the same problem. IRT to Happy Trails not responding to Jeff's email, I figured they did not feel any need to help/respond/warrenty to anyone other than the "original" owner. (We told them we were not the original purchaser, and did not expect any replacement, etc). We only wanted them to know about the engineering/manufacturing problem. It appears to me, that for them to respond, would acknowledge a faulty product. Consequently, I have still have them installed, but would be very slow to recommend or purchase anything else from not-so-Happy Trails. It appears to be, quick to take your money, but slow to service. FWIW revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Sean???, > > I've only had experience with one set of Nerf Bars and unfortunately it > wasn't as good as I'd like. The bars limited the right turn by stopping > the forks from turning to full stop. I'm hoping they've fixed this issue > as my experience was about two years ago. Happy Trails never did respond > to me when I notified them of the issue and how I eliminated it. Wasn't > my bike but I've seen it a few times. > > Hope your install goes well and you're happy with the plate and bars. > > Happy Birthday, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:03:18 -0800 (PST) writes: > > Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for > > me for my birthday.) > > Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the > > mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I > > install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I > > cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[klr6501995]

I thought that this topic had been discussed about a lot in the past and it was found that mostly the fork lock problem was due to KAWA and the welding of the tab under the head stem. FWIW my HT SU racks were a good and very tight fit. A bit of arm muscle and alighnment bar were needed to install. I'm pretty sure MOST of the consumers I meet that decide to purchase a bike would not have been able to install them. But I can say for certain that this tight fit makes for a sturdier product.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > Hi Sean, > I am the one that Jeff helped me repair my mis-manufactured nerf > bars, bought on ebay form a private owner. > > Here is the CAUTION to you and any one else that has NERF bars. > After they are installed, make sure you can lock the forks in either > left or right position. My forks struck the nerf bars on one side > (right) and would only allow the fork lock to lock w the wheel to the > left. You mihgt not think this is such a bad thing, except when it > stikes the nerf bar before it hits the steering head stops, your > radius of turn is GREATLY reducuced. I am certain the original owner > had the same problem. > > IRT to Happy Trails not responding to Jeff's email, I figured they > did not feel any need to help/respond/warrenty to anyone other than > the "original" owner. (We told them we were not the original > purchaser, and did not expect any replacement, etc). We only wanted > them to know about the engineering/manufacturing problem. It appears > to me, that for them to respond, would acknowledge a faulty > product. > > Consequently, I have still have them installed, but would be very > slow to recommend or purchase anything else from not-so-Happy Trails. > It appears to be, quick to take your money, but slow to service. > > FWIW > revmaaatin. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > Sean???, > > > > I've only had experience with one set of Nerf Bars and > unfortunately it > > wasn't as good as I'd like. The bars limited the right turn by > stopping > > the forks from turning to full stop. I'm hoping they've fixed this > issue > > as my experience was about two years ago. Happy Trails never did > respond > > to me when I notified them of the issue and how I eliminated it. > Wasn't > > my bike but I've seen it a few times. > > > > Hope your install goes well and you're happy with the plate and > bars. > > > > Happy Birthday, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:03:18 -0800 (PST) writes: > > > Thanks happy trails! (sorry Fred, wife bought them for > > > me for my birthday.) > > > Install seems easy enough? Any tips for the > > > mechanically impaired? Also, does it matter if I > > > install the bash plate first? Also it looks like I > > > cant access the coolant filler cap after bars are installed? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Douglas Bouley]

FWLIW, I've had my nerf bars a short time and like them quite a bit. Thankfully, have not yet crash tested them, though. When we installed them, we discovered the foot peg assembly on the left was put on backwards. Took less than 5 minutes to fix, but given the premium price, I thought I should let H-T know. Never got an acknowledgment from them, but then i didn't ask for one, either... Went ahead and bought the SU racks from them, too. Guess the experience didn't phase me too much. Food for thought, though. TOD (The Other Doug)

On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:24 , revmaaatin wrote: > Hi Sean, > I am the one that Jeff helped me repair my mis-manufactured nerf > bars, bought on ebay form a private owner. > > Here is the CAUTION to you and any one else that has NERF bars. > After they are installed, make sure you can lock the forks in either > left or right position. My forks struck the nerf bars on one side > (right) and would only allow the fork lock to lock w the wheel to the > left. You mihgt not think this is such a bad thing, except when it > stikes the nerf bar before it hits the steering head stops, your > radius of turn is GREATLY reducuced. I am certain the original owner > had the same problem. > > IRT to Happy Trails not responding to Jeff's email, I figured they > did not feel any need to help/respond/warrenty to anyone other than > the "original" owner. (We told them we were not the original > purchaser, and did not expect any replacement, etc). We only wanted > them to know about the engineering/manufacturing problem. It appears > to me, that for them to respond, would acknowledge a faulty > product. > > Consequently, I have still have them installed, but would be very > slow to recommend or purchase anything else from not-so-Happy Trails. > It appears to be, quick to take your money, but slow to service. > > FWIW > revmaaatin. > >

[dooden]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sd_ware" wrote:

> > I don't know if this was the problem found for the right turn issue > with the nerfbar but a buddy of mine was having limited turning to > the right and called HT to find that the PO had put the right nerfbar > mount into the same bolt that is used for the left guard. It's a > logical place but it's supposed to mount in the radiator attachment > that is but further further back allowing for full turning. In my > opinion, HT is making a mistake by using this mount as it is weakened > with the combined radiator mounting. It would be better to add a tab > so that it uses the long frame bolt. > > I'm also highly annoyed with HT and don't think I'll be purchasing > anymore of their products no matter how nice they are. I bought the > nerfbar from Fred recently and had a problem with the length of the > bolt that goes through the frame for the left guard to set into the > nut. I called HT and was told I must have been given a 6MX50 bolt > instead of the 6MX55. I measured and that was exactly the problem. > I was told that if I couldn't find one at a hardware store in my area > they'd send me one. What I found was black allen bolt but it's not > an exterior bolt and is rusting. I called and emailed HT for a > replacement and was assured they'd send one out to me, both verbally > and by phone. The communications with a person named Tim and then > Todd were pleasant but I never got the bolt? To me, making a promise > and then not following through is unacceptable customer rudeness! > Still not sure what I can do about the bolt, my local hardware store > says they can't get me a stainless bolt long enough. > > Doug

Paint it, apply clear fingernail polish, or just smear grease on it. Easy enough. Its a KLR not a F-18 Super Hornet. Dooden A15 Green Ape