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[Jeff Saline]

Mike, I have a centerstand on my KLR and like it. If you do some really rough riding you may have trouble with rocks wanting to rip it off. I don't get quite that tough with my KLR. I suggest you put a kicker foot on it like is offered by Happy-Trails for $35. I don't know how guys get their bikes on the stand when they have it loaded for touring. Make sure you keep the footpeg bolts tight but don't over torque them. It takes a little bit of work to repair missing threads in the frame portion of the mount. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:46:58 -0000 "bbqman111" writes:

> Hi everyone... I was wondering if anyone out there, had any comments > on > getting the centerstand for their KLR. I have been thinking about > getting one, just wanted to hear from someone who had one. Likes, > dislikes, etc.... > Thanks Mike > Orlando, FL > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Erik]

> >> Why is it such a bad idea for off-roading? Is the CS going to drop down >> (say, after a hard landing) and grab something? Hasn't happened to me >> ... yet .... >> >> --John Kokola >> > I guess if you were worried about it you could zip tie it so it wouldn't > move. I always carry a few in my tool kit. > > Bogdan >

My understanding of the problem with the centerstand for offroad was that it put a bunch of additional strain on the already-weak footpeg mounting bolts. Since offroading puts more stress on them, too, they add together for Badness. Since I've already had to helicoil one of my footpeg mounts (my fault), it's what kept me away from the centerstand. erik

[Jud Jones]

> > > Why is it such a bad idea for off-roading? Is the CS going to drop down > > (say, after a hard landing) and grab something? Hasn't happened to me > > ... yet ....

IMO, it's a bad idea, period. It takes up precious ground clearance, and puts your footpeg mounts at risk for damage. A hydraulic lift from Checker or Pep boys is cheaper, and even more handy for those maintenance tasks you perform at home. On the road, you can always find a way to get a wheel in the air if you need to.

[Guy B. Young II]

Jeff, I carry two pieces of 1 x 6 x 7 with me. Normally they reside in the bottom of my front panniers, or in the rear (soft) panniers if carrying extra fuel & water (extra support). I pull them out and stack them on top of each other, then roll the rear wheel back on top of the stack. The bike then goes up pretty easy. The boards usually get spit out when the bike goes up. If on soft ground, I rock the bike to each side, placing one of the pieces under each pad of the c'stand. Works for me. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Saline

>>>I don't know how guys get their bikes on the stand when they have it loaded for touring.

Best,

[geobas]

Baron, try http://www.leftcoastklrs.com/ G. Baron Tynan wrote:

>Howdy, > >Anybody have the website address for the Julian Techfest? Thanks. > >BB > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

[Jeff Saline]

Guy, Sounds like you have a set up that works well for you. I put the kicker foot on mine and can't imagine having to carry a couple of pieces of wood around with me so I could use part of the bike. : ) Thanks for your comment. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:40:13 -0500 (GMT-05:00) "Guy B. Young II" writes:

> Jeff, > > I carry two pieces of 1 x 6 x 7 with me. Normally they reside in > the bottom of my front panniers, or in the rear (soft) panniers if > carrying extra fuel & water (extra support). I pull them out and > stack them on top of each other, then roll the rear wheel back on > top of the stack. The bike then goes up pretty easy. > > The boards usually get spit out when the bike goes up. If on soft > ground, I rock the bike to each side, placing one of the pieces > under each pad of the c'stand. > > Works for me. > > Guy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Saline > > >>>I don't know how guys get their bikes on the stand when they have > it loaded for touring. > > Best, > > > >

[plano93722]

> My understanding of the problem with the centerstand for offroad

was that

> it put a bunch of additional strain on the already-weak footpeg

mounting

> bolts. Since offroading puts more stress on them, too, they add

together

> for Badness.

erik

>

This matches my understanding. Also, Tim Bernard told me that the problem in some cases has been the footpeg bolts backing out under offroad stress. He was kind enough to drill the bolts when I got my centerstand and I had them safety-wired on. Still, I'm of the opinion that a centerstand is a dubious mod for a KLR engaged in significant off-road use. By the way, if you have a short inseam, the available add-on footkick will make it much easier to hoist the bike up onto the centerstand. That is, unless you have a flat rear tire. Then the rear end will be substantially lowered, and you'll be struggling mightily even with the footkick. Don't ask me how I know this. Bob Gott A17 Fresno, CA http://arcticride.talkspot.com

[J Fortner]

On 11/2/05, John Kokola wrote:

> Why is it such a bad idea for off-roading? Is the CS going to drop down > (say, after a hard landing) and grab something? Hasn't happened to me > ... yet ....

From Adventure Rider "In the interest of full disclosure. On our Rosen Rides trip last January, I had one of two centerstand that broke off the foot peg bolts. After the ride, I suggested that Justin might want to add a line on their site about centerstand problems. And he did the next week! On the first bike, not lowered, using the std. soft bolts, all four bolts broke off at the same time, in a deep pothole, at speed. Dropped the stand and the footpegs off all at one time. We were able to back out the ends of the bolts with a Leatherman awl, and a rock, and we had spares to replace all four. On my lowered bike, I had broken off a bolt last fall, and changed all to harden bolts, the correct length, meaning, ones that did not bottom out in the holes against the frame. In Mexico, I hit several rocks with the centerstand, and broke 3 of them, one at a time. I tied the pegs not to rotate after one on each side failed. When I broke the second on the left, it fell off, and dangled on the keeper line. We stopped and removed the last bolt, which happened to be oversized after the fix last fall. We worked on getting my harden bolts backed out for an hour waiting for the chase truck, no luck. Justin found a welder when we stopped that night. Justin's rental bikes all have welded foot pegs, and no centerstands. The only bike on our trip with no damage to or because the centerstand, was ridden very hard, by a 6'4" rider, but with upgraded front and rear suspensions. The design of the centerstand, helps break off the bolts. Then the feet of the stand hits something, the pivot rubber bumper located at the center of the total length of the legs, loads the bolts at the other end of the leg. I also think that I hit several rocks with the centerstand's cross frame right under the bolts, that pushed the stand up againt the bolts. I miss my centerstand for all the reason given by others. But after several hours riding out the west side of Copper Canyon into the desert without foot pegs, I will make due with a prop stick in the future." http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1710079&postcount=11 JF

[Pat Schmid]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, John Kokola wrote:

> > Why is it such a bad idea for off-roading? Is the CS going to drop

down

> (say, after a hard landing) and grab something? Hasn't happened to me > ... yet .... >

They can hang up on a rock and get sheared off the bike. Was riding with MikeT last year when it happened to him. Don't think he's ever bothered to remount it. Pat G'ville, NV