stripped oil drain plug hole part 4....

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Eric Lee Green
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Post by Eric Lee Green » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:52 pm

Heh. Now you know why I say it takes two people to safely load/unload a KLR into a pickup truck bed. I've done a couple of those myself :-). If you insist on loading the KLR by yourself, please do wear full motocross gear including chest protector, shin and knee protectors, etc., because a KLR *HURTS* if it falls on you... Mark Sampson wrote:
>Now remember--these are how "Not" to load the bike into the back of a >pickup. > >1. Take a run at the ramp---tire misses ramp--slam into tailgate. >2, Take a run at the ram---tire slides off ramp--slam into tailgate. >3. Take a run at the ramp--whoa---too fast---fly into truck bed--slam >into truck--fly over the handlebars onto truck hood. >4. Take a run at the ramp----you too slow--more gas--whoops--less >gas---spin tire---fall 4' too the ground--climb out from under hot >bike---get shop towel too soak up blood. >5. By yourself--motor running---standing on the ground--ease her up the >ramp--slowly---slowly--slipping the clutch--oh crap it's too >high----bike falls over--hits the ground---climb out from under hot >bike----get shop towel to soak up blood. >5. I'm thinkin'--I know there's more :) > > >Mark Sampson >www.bigdogadventures.com > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Mark Sampson

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Post by Mark Sampson » Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:07 pm

I knew a guy with a brand new Bultaco years ago with fiberglass tank that forgot to turn on the gas. Bike was 30 minutes new and he fell off the ramp halfway up putting a hole in the new tank. This guy could screw anything up. Yeh-------that was me too :) !!!!! Mark Sampson www.bigdogadventures.com

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Post by saverinm » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:34 pm

I have a dual foldout 1500lb aluminum ramp.... I start my KLR, drop it in first gear and walk it up the ramp while "clutching it" 'til I am in the truck bed and then cut the engine... I usually have my son or someone else "healing" the ramp on the ground for safety.... Owning a 1500 Silverado with an 8ft bed also helps... I can fit my KLR, son's TTR230 and his friends RM125 + gas cans + tools + riding gear with room to spare.... Mike.....
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, erik wrote: > > > Oh, one last thing: You won't fit a KLR into the bed of a Taco unless > > you leave the liftgate down, at which point you have 200 pounds of > > weight (the back tire of the bike) sitting directly on the liftgate. You > > may want to investigate renting a motorcycle trailer instead when you > > need to haul your KLR somewhere. > > Considering how thoroughly loading & unloading my A18 ONCE crushed my > F-150 tailgate, this is probably something you should pay attention to! > > It was a cheap aftermarket tailgate (already crushed one being stupid with > a load while offroad), and not as sturdy as the OEM, but... it didn't > stand a chance vs the rear tire. > > erik

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Post by saverinm » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:41 pm

By the way... I found the safest way to unload the KLR from my Silverado it to keep it in 1st gear (with the engine off of course!) and let out the clutch slightly to brake the bike as you back it down the ramp... Again have someone healing the ramp on the ground... Given the weight distribution as you back down the ramp, the front brakes do little.... Mike... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell wrote:
> Be sure the gas is turned on before you try and ride it up the
ramp. I
> knew a guy with a brand new Bultaco years ago with fiberglass tank
that
> forgot to turn on the gas. Bike was 30 minutes new and he fell off
the
> ramp halfway up putting a hole in the new tank. This guy could
screw
> anything up. Only guy I ever knew that threw a rod on a 2 stroke
dirt
> bike (mystery pre mix probably). I think he went to remote
controlled
> model airplanes after he screwed up enough bikes. One reason I
don't
> like buying used. > > By the way I never ride up a ramp into a truck or trailer. It is an > embarrassing way to hurt yourself. > > Criswell > On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Mark Sampson wrote: > > > > > It good to get good info on how to load in a pickup---but also
how not
> > to--here's a few---yes, I've done them all--so save yourself. > > > > Now remember--these are how "Not" to load the bike into the back
of a
> > pickup. > > > > > > 1. Take a run at the ramp---tire misses ramp--slam into tailgate. > > 2, Take a run at the ram---tire slides off ramp--slam into
tailgate.
> > 3. Take a run at the ramp--whoa---too fast---fly into truck bed--
slam
> > into truck--fly over the handlebars onto truck hood. > > 4. Take a run at the ramp----you too slow--more gas--whoops--less > > gas---spin tire---fall 4' too the ground--climb out from under hot > > bike---get shop towel too soak up blood. > > 5. By yourself--motor running---standing on the ground--ease her
up the
> > ramp--slowly---slowly--slipping the clutch--oh crap it's too > > high----bike falls over--hits the ground---climb out from under
hot
> > bike----get shop towel to soak up blood. > > 5. I'm thinkin'--I know there's more :) > > > > > > Mark Sampson > > www.bigdogadventures.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >

Michael Silverstein

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Post by Michael Silverstein » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:17 am

Does having a KLR on the back significantly affect the feel/handling of a pickup? I was fantasizing about getting one of those new four-door Tacomas so when I went on family trips I could "transparently" bring my KLR with me the same way I now throw my mountain bike in the back of our minivan. As an added bonus we'd have two vehicles at our destination. I don't think I'd do it if it made the truck much slower, drink lots more gas, or wallow on bumps and turns. Mike A18 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005

Rick McCauley
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stripped oil drain plug hole part 4....

Post by Rick McCauley » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:32 am

I'd be worried about how much metal is in the engine after drilling while leaned over. Rick A17 dolomoto@... wrote: Parts 1-3 included seeing the last remnants of the threads come out with the oil then attempting to repair via: oversized drain plug (couldn't get it to seat) and threaded SS insert (got it in, set pins and promptly screwed it right into the engine). I tried to buy a helicoil setup (too $$) but decided to get a drill bit and hog the hole out to the next bigger size then re-tap. So off I went to Northern Tool and Equipment to get a tap kit, ahhhh, they close at 6pm....I get off at 7pm. Then it was to Advance Auto Parts, ahhh, they only have the helicoil but none of the other associated tools (bit, tap) and besides the helicoils they had were too small. Then it was to Sears. Ahhh, they have the tap I need but only in a kit that's 100 bucks. Oh but what about the drill bit? I found a 5/8 (the current hole is 9/16) and was walking to the cash register. Hmmm, this bit requires a 1/2" chuck....damn, damn, dammit. My drill is only 3/8 chuck. Ahhhh! So I left empty handed. Got off a little early today. Went to Sears to buy a drill with 1/2 chuck. Hemmed and hawwed, trying out several corded and cordless models. I planned on buying a drill to keep forever and ever. Decided on a mid-level Craftsman for 59.99. The salesperson was very helpful. Went to the cash register to pay for it while the clerk is typing away to get one from the back room. He looks up and lets me know I can have it tomorrow! Ahhhh! So I pick up my second choice. More typing...it's also out of stock. I pick up my third choice....you guessed it..Out of Stock. So I point at the WALL OF DRILLS and ask "Which drill can I walk out of here with RIGHT freakin NOW!? The salesman calmly points to the 199 dollar Dewalt. Dammit man. As I walk away empty handed he calls me back...there seems to be a single example of my third choice in stock. I pay for my rental, uh, I mean purchase and leave with my rental drill and 5/8 bit. I stopped at Advance Auto Parts to get a 5/8 rubber expansion plug just to get me back on the road. I peruse the aisle, there's the plugs: 1/4, 3/8, 3/4, 7/8 and on and on. Seems the 5/8 is an ODD size. I bought the 3/4 plug hoping I could "squeeze" it in. Charge battery while reading the latest copy of "RoadRunner Magazine". Get green light and attach bit. Hmmm, the KLR sits pretty high but not high enough to get the monster drill and big freakin bit underneath of it. Look around and decide to lean KLR onto pile of scrap wood next to shed. I VERY carefully lean the bike over to get access but still had to dig a bit of gravels out to get the needed clearance. I got the hole enlarged and AHA!, got the missing insert back out! Woo Hoo! Victory is mine! I retrieved the rubber plug and confidently strolled to the stricken KLR. I calmly and smugly reach down to insert rubber plug. Two things are apparent: 1-I'm an idiot, 2-a 3/4" plug won't "squeeze" in a 5/8" hole...that's why it's labelled 3/4", duh huh. So there I sit staring unbelievably at the bottom of the KLR. Hmm, it is leaning on a pile of scrap wood and I've got some things to burn....nahhhh, I can fix this. I reckon I need to find the proper tap tomorrow and try my hand at that. The plan is to tap the new hole and thread a new insert (with red Loctite!), wait one day and then put in a new plug. Ideas? Suggestions? Donations of Makers Mark? Ride every chance you get my friends. Austin 89 KLR with big freakin hole in crankcase 92 Lumina with 194,000 miles (I think a rod is bent, driving on borrowed time) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by saverinm » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:27 am

I can only speak for my 1500 Silverado with 8ft bed... The handling doesn't really change until you add the third bike... Gotta take sharp corners a little slower because of the weight distribution with 3 bikes... I did 75-80mph on rt79 in WV on my way down to Hatfield-McCoy with the KLR and two smaller dirt bikes in the bed... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:
> Does having a KLR on the back significantly affect the
feel/handling of
> a pickup? I was fantasizing about getting one of those new four-
door
> Tacomas so when I went on family trips I could "transparently"
bring my
> KLR with me the same way I now throw my mountain bike in the back
of our
> minivan. As an added bonus we'd have two vehicles at our
destination. I
> don't think I'd do it if it made the truck much slower, drink lots
more
> gas, or wallow on bumps and turns. > > Mike A18 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date:
9/1/2005

Eric Lee Green
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Post by Eric Lee Green » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:33 am

Michael Silverstein wrote:
>Does having a KLR on the back significantly affect the feel/handling of >a pickup? I was fantasizing about getting one of those new four-door >Tacomas so when I went on family trips I could "transparently" bring my >KLR with me the same way I now throw my mountain bike in the back of our >minivan. As an added bonus we'd have two vehicles at our destination. I >don't think I'd do it if it made the truck much slower, drink lots more >gas, or wallow on bumps and turns. > >
The bed on a four-door Taco is shorter than the bed on a regular Taco, so a KLR wouldn't fit. As far as the affect on handling, having 400 pounds of weight in the bed actually helps the handling of your typical pickup truck, where the back end is too light and bouncy when unloaded. -E

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