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[Rick McCauley]

The History Channel is a great source of WWII info. I have seen documentries on about everythig associated with the war. Guns, people, vehicles, heavy artillery, submarines, and air power. I watch it almost every night. Rick A17 lefty bluff wrote: While you guys are reminiscing, I'm looking for info on the use of combat motorcycles in WWII. Anything you know will help: books, authors, magazines, references. Thanks. leftybluff@... --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim]

I suggest that depends who's riding it. --Jim A-15

> HAHA. A KLR is a poser it it's own right. It looks like a dirt bike > but it's a "bloated, overweight showboat" when actually used offroad.

[cruiserjones@sbcglobal.net]

Actually, I have a 67 XKE with 32k on it, unrestored, and doesn't need it. Talk about service problems! But, it's mine, looks perfect, is totally impractical, and takes up valuable space in my garage I could use for something I drive regularly. I feel your pain! Tim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" To: Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > You wouldn't have a 59 caddy convertible restored? Or a late 60's 2 door > Eldorado? My kid went to school with a kid from Germany at North Texas. > They were both musicians. The German kid loved his Eldorado because he > could get all his musical gear in the trunk. He stuck his nose up at our > 320 i BMW we had at the time. He wasn't impressed. We weren't either after > we got the bills from service on it. > > Criswell > Greater Grapevine TX > On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 10:36 AM, > wrote: > >> I know I for one wouldn't be caught dead in (or on) a Cadillac. Correct >> comparison, though, bloated, overweight showboat of a vehicle for >> posers....I"M KIDDIN! (kinda) >> Tim Jones >> still stirring >> Odessolate Tx >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eugene W Zortea Jr" >> To: "scott quillen" ; "Michael Silverstein" >> ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:11 PM >> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's >> >> >>> These emails are for tech Q&A's NOT FOR PET PEEVES!!!!!! >>> >>> A few facts: The fastest motorcycle on the earth is a Harley. >>> In the NHRA the Harley V Twin won last year and is winning this >>> year. Beating Suzuki * >>> all the others. >>> (Quarter mile drag bikes) >>> Ergo, a Harley is built for cruzing and if needed it can be built up for >>> speed and will be as fast or faster than any 4 cylinder Jap bike out >>> there. >>> >>> I know you're saying "The Jap bikes come stock fast". Well I say to >>> that, >>> "Where on earth do I need to go 150 mph or better???????? Where". >>> >>> It's the Cadillac of bikes. >>> >>> I love my KLR. I also loved my Fatboy and Ultra Classic. >>> >>> Gene >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: scott quillen [mailto:scottq60@...] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:06 PM >>> To: Michael Silverstein; 'Eugene W Zortea Jr'; >>> DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's >>> >>> >>> What a load of BULL... >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> --- Michael Silverstein >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree the V-Rod is a whole other animal and >>>> shouldn't be lumped in >>>> with the rest of the HD line in this train of >>>> discussion. >>>> >>>> As to lightening up, we all have our pet peeves and >>>> one of mine is >>>> flawed thinking (don't even get me started on leaf >>>> blowers). >>>> >>>> While many people (including a number of people I >>>> know and respect and >>>> probably yourself included) own HD bikes for >>>> justifiable reasons (they >>>> appreciate the bike for what it is because of its >>>> look and feel, sound, >>>> etc.) and are willing to may extra for them, many >>>> own them because they >>>> have allowed their wills to be twisted by >>>> 'lifestyle' marketing and >>>> crowd mentality. Historical events have shown that >>>> this pattern of >>>> thinking is clearly not in the best interest of >>>> humanity as a whole. >>>> >>>> Mike A18 >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Eugene W Zortea Jr >>>> [mailto:so.ez@...] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:15 AM >>>>> To: Michael Silverstein; 'scott quillen'; >>>> DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of >>>> KLR's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brother you got to lighten up. It's just a means >>>> of >>>>> transportation. For most just a weekend hobby. I >>>> had a Harley >>>>> for 14 years and loved it. You do know they hold >>>> they're >>>>> monetary value better than any Jap or English bike >>>> made. >>>>> Don't tell me a V-Rod is under powered. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On >>>>> Behalf Of Michael Silverstein >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:01 PM >>>>> To: 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of >>>> KLR's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't dispute that these people KNOW what they >>>> want. Lots >>>>> of people KNOW a whole lot of things that aren't >>>> necessarily >>>>> true. Since the number of HD bikes on the road is >>>> in extreme >>>>> disproportion to their capability and value there >>>> must be >>>>> some other factor at work. >>>>> >>>>> I've ridden Harleys and while I found them >>>> underpowered, >>>>> poorly engineered lumps, some aspects were >>>> certainly >>>>> compelling. If HD bikes weren't so overpriced I'd >>>> probably >>>>> have one myself for a beater bike right next to a >>>> Ural. >>>>> >>>>> I do however suspect that what drives most >>>> purchases of these >>>>> relatively incapable and way overpriced bikes and >>>> all the >>>>> accompanying chrome, leather fringes, t-shirts, >>>> mugs, etc. is >>>>> marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd >>>> rather than by >>>>> researching what would be best for one's needs - >>>> unless >>>>> buying into marketing hype and fitting in with the >>>> crowd is >>>>> one's primary need. This is certainly tolerable in >>>> a 'live >>>>> and let live' sort of way but I sure hope these >>>> people don't >>>>> carry that same pattern of poor reasoning into the >>>> voting booth. >>>>> >>>>> Mike A18 >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>>> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] >>>>>> On Behalf Of scott quillen >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:21 PM >>>>>> To: Michael Silverstein; >>>> DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of >>>> KLR's >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That's quite an observation. Perhaps those >>>> "people >>>>>> just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want >>>> and it >>>>>> just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what >>>> they >>>>>> SHOULD want... >>>>>> >>>>>> GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do >>>> THEIRS... >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> --- Michael Silverstein >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ... If people just entering motorcycling had >>>> sense >>>>>> instead of vanity they'd be spending their money >>>> on >>>>>> bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of >>>>>> Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets >>>> with >>>>>> fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley >>>>>> 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance >>>> the >>>>>> riding experience or get you from point A to >>>> point B). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike A18 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________ >>>>>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home >>>> page >>>>>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650> >>>>>> _data_search.html List >>>>>> sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>>>>> www.dualsportnews.com >>>>>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>>> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! 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[Rick McCauley]

If you do see it, Let me know what you think. It is very graphic, but good Rick A17 Ron Criswell wrote: I'll check it out. Criswell

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:46 PM, Rick McCauley wrote: > Watch "Enemy at the Gate" It is a great movie, and it gives you an > idea of what it was like to be a soldier on both sides. > > Rick A17 > > Ron Criswell wrote: > Yep the Germans killed my uncle. Plus I have read a lot of history on > WWll. It is amazing a culture that was highly refined could produce > such brutality in most of Europe. The Russians, Jews, Ukrainians, > Poles, and Belorussians particularly caught the brunt of it. Amazing > one little dictator could cause the deaths of maybe 50 million people. > he sure had a lot of willing helpers is the amazing thing about it. I > couldn't believe the arrogance of the Germans initially. The Russians > changed their tune with equal brutality also for a heavy price. I don't > know who was worse to be a soldier for, Hitler or Stalin. > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[scott quillen]

Excellent movie! Scott Rick McCauley wrote: If you do see it, Let me know what you think. It is very graphic, but good Rick A17 Ron Criswell wrote: I'll check it out. Criswell

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:46 PM, Rick McCauley wrote: > Watch "Enemy at the Gate" It is a great movie, and it gives you an > idea of what it was like to be a soldier on both sides. > > Rick A17 > > Ron Criswell wrote: > Yep the Germans killed my uncle. Plus I have read a lot of history on > WWll. It is amazing a culture that was highly refined could produce > such brutality in most of Europe. The Russians, Jews, Ukrainians, > Poles, and Belorussians particularly caught the brunt of it. Amazing > one little dictator could cause the deaths of maybe 50 million people. > he sure had a lot of willing helpers is the amazing thing about it. I > couldn't believe the arrogance of the Germans initially. The Russians > changed their tune with equal brutality also for a heavy price. I don't > know who was worse to be a soldier for, Hitler or Stalin. > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Pat Schmid]

You need to get yourself an impratical cowboy caddie, like the my '66 K10. She's a short bed and a stepside and she's painted red. I picked her up when she was just short of falling apart but these days she's my only cage and like ou said, she's mine. Pat G'ville, NV

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > Actually, I have a 67 XKE with 32k on it, unrestored, and doesn't need it. > Talk about service problems! But, it's mine, looks perfect, is totally > impractical, and takes up valuable space in my garage I could use for > something I drive regularly. I feel your pain! > Tim >

[fasteddiecopeman]

Gene, Just because HD sponsors dragbikes with "V twin" engines - they AIN'T HD motors!!!

> A few facts: The fastest motorcycle on the earth is a Harley. > In the NHRA the Harley V Twin won last year and is winning this > year. Beating Suzuki * > all the others. > (Quarter mile drag bikes) > Ergo, a Harley is built for cruzing and if needed it can be built up for > speed and will be as fast or faster than any 4 cylinder Jap bike out there.

Again, it WASN'T a HD built up for speed - it's a hand made Vance & Hines (I think) V- twin engine that LOOKS a bit like a V-rod.

> I love my KLR. I also loved my Fatboy and Ultra Classic. > > Gene

Glad you liked your Harleys. Ed

[Arden Kysely]

Besides, a quarter mile isn't a test of speed as much as it is acceleration. On the salt, the fastest bike is a Suzuki (or something that might have a Suzuki part in it somewhere). __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> Gene, > Just because HD sponsors dragbikes with "V twin" engines - they

AIN'T HD motors!!!

> > > A few facts: The fastest motorcycle on the earth is a Harley. > > In the NHRA the Harley V Twin won last year and is

winning this

> > year. Beating Suzuki * > > all the others. > > (Quarter mile drag bikes) > > Ergo, a Harley is built for cruzing and if needed it can be built

up for

> > speed and will be as fast or faster than any 4 cylinder Jap bike

out there.

> > Again, it WASN'T a HD built up for speed - it's a hand made Vance

& Hines (I think) V-

> twin engine that LOOKS a bit like a V-rod. > > > I love my KLR. I also loved my Fatboy and Ultra Classic. > > > > Gene > > Glad you liked your Harleys. > Ed

[Mike Peplinski]

WHO CARES! this is a KLR tech site, nobody gives a SHIT about HD vs Suzuki. End it!

>From: "Arden Kysely" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's >Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:32:35 -0000 > >Besides, a quarter mile isn't a test of speed as much as it is >acceleration. On the salt, the fastest bike is a Suzuki (or something >that might have a Suzuki part in it somewhere). > >__Arden > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > wrote: > > Gene, > > Just because HD sponsors dragbikes with "V twin" engines - they >AIN'T HD motors!!! > > > > > A few facts: The fastest motorcycle on the earth is a Harley. > > > In the NHRA the Harley V Twin won last year and is >winning this > > > year. Beating Suzuki * > > > all the others. > > > (Quarter mile drag bikes) > > > Ergo, a Harley is built for cruzing and if needed it can be built >up for > > > speed and will be as fast or faster than any 4 cylinder Jap bike >out there. > > > > Again, it WASN'T a HD built up for speed - it's a hand made Vance >& Hines (I think) V- > > twin engine that LOOKS a bit like a V-rod. > > > > > I love my KLR. I also loved my Fatboy and Ultra Classic. > > > > > > Gene > > > > Glad you liked your Harleys. > > Ed > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[scott quillen]

Sounds like I'm the only one who Fred "advised" to let this thread rest...let it go... Scott Mike Peplinski wrote: WHO CARES! this is a KLR tech site, nobody gives a SHIT about HD vs Suzuki. End it!

>From: "Arden Kysely" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's >Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:32:35 -0000 > >Besides, a quarter mile isn't a test of speed as much as it is >acceleration. On the salt, the fastest bike is a Suzuki (or something >that might have a Suzuki part in it somewhere). > >__Arden > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > wrote: > > Gene, > > Just because HD sponsors dragbikes with "V twin" engines - they >AIN'T HD motors!!! > > > > > A few facts: The fastest motorcycle on the earth is a Harley. > > > In the NHRA the Harley V Twin won last year and is >winning this > > > year. Beating Suzuki * > > > all the others. > > > (Quarter mile drag bikes) > > > Ergo, a Harley is built for cruzing and if needed it can be built >up for > > > speed and will be as fast or faster than any 4 cylinder Jap bike >out there. > > > > Again, it WASN'T a HD built up for speed - it's a hand made Vance >& Hines (I think) V- > > twin engine that LOOKS a bit like a V-rod. > > > > > I love my KLR. I also loved my Fatboy and Ultra Classic. > > > > > > Gene > > > > Glad you liked your Harleys. > > Ed > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

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