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[John S Harper]

Think about it, there is a difference. I haven't tried the mysterious right side mount but I can see what he's saying. The right side foot peg is higher than the left when sitting on the sidestand. So the right side footpeg is higher relative to the seat. Relative to the ground. Picturing the bike leaning 45 degrees left if you're still not getting it. The difference in height probably would make it easier to mount from the right because you don't have to swing your leg as high. "Jud Jones" Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 08/03/2005 06:58 PM To DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right side, > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > Art, > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and over

from the

> left.

Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over from the right. WTF???? Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arden Kysely]

C'mon guys...everyone knows the proper way to mount a loaded KLR is to stand back a few feet from the left side of the bike, lift right leg to about 90 degrees, point it at the low part of the seat, and hop, hop, hop towards the bike until your right leg goes over the saddle and you can shimmy on over and sit on down. Counting on the kickstand to support you is fine on the street, but can get dicey on softer surfaces. And those right-side mounters must be from an antipodean universe. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > wrote: > > > > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right side, > > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > > > Art, > > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and over from the > > left. > > Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over from the right. > WTF????

[Ramey]

Also known as the angle of the dangle, so the mass of the ass can be swung. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John S Harper Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:29 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? Think about it, there is a difference. I haven't tried the mysterious right side mount but I can see what he's saying. The right side foot peg is higher than the left when sitting on the sidestand. So the right side footpeg is higher relative to the seat. Relative to the ground. Picturing the bike leaning 45 degrees left if you're still not getting it. The difference in height probably would make it easier to mount from the right because you don't have to swing your leg as high. "Jud Jones" Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 08/03/2005 06:58 PM To DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right side, > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > Art, > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and over

from the

> left.

Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over from the right. WTF???? Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

[Guy B. Young II]

Ditto that - especially if the bike is loaded to the gills and the suspension is already "sacked out." Try mounting it from the right side will only have the suspension sagging even more and you may wind up with a lap full of bike. The LH side isn't much better if the terrain has a little lean to it in your direction. The front end tends to lift off the gound; potential for the same results as above. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Arden Kysely Sent: Aug 4, 2005 10:10 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? C'mon guys...everyone knows the proper way to mount a loaded KLR is to stand back a few feet from the left side of the bike, lift right leg to about 90 degrees, point it at the low part of the seat, and hop, hop, hop towards the bike until your right leg goes over the saddle and you can shimmy on over and sit on down. Counting on the kickstand to support you is fine on the street, but can get dicey on softer surfaces. And those right-side mounters must be from an antipodean universe. __Arden

[Rick McCauley]

So that means that when I lean into a left hand turn, my right foot is closer to the seat, and vice versa. Having trouble with that one. Rick A17 John S Harper wrote: Think about it, there is a difference. I haven't tried the mysterious right side mount but I can see what he's saying. The right side foot peg is higher than the left when sitting on the sidestand. So the right side footpeg is higher relative to the seat. Relative to the ground. Picturing the bike leaning 45 degrees left if you're still not getting it. The difference in height probably would make it easier to mount from the right because you don't have to swing your leg as high. "Jud Jones" Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 08/03/2005 06:58 PM To DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right side, > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > Art, > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and over

from the

> left.

Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over from the right. WTF???? Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Conall]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote:

> I am still confused too. Why use the right foot peg to mount. > It makes no sense to me either Art. > > Rick A17

I've heard that Motorcycle officers mount from the right, something about using the bike as a potential shield from oncoming traffic and bullets. I practice mounting from the right while parked on bust streets just to stay limber. :^) Conall http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html Here is what the master strategy group has to say about the subject, taken from the website at http://www.msgroup.org/DISCUSS.asp Topic 12 Motorcycle Officers Are Not The Best Examples - They have different realities The Best Examples By James R. Davis I have read that mounting a motorcycle from the right side is 'OK' and for proof the poster pointed out that the motorcycle police in California are required to do so. While I believe it is true that at least the California Highway Patrol requires their motorcycle officers to use the right side to both mount and dismount their machines, that is hardly an example one should draw heavy conclusions from. It may suggest that if you pull to the side of a freeway and want to dismount you might be safer getting on and off on the right side based on traffic risk, but that does not infer that it is generally safer to do so. Your side stand provides a WIDE tripod footprint (unlike your center stand) that virtually guarantees your bike will not fall over if you lean against it. (This, by the way, is why it is far safer to leave your bike on its side stand than it is to put it on its center stand in a storm.) You would court dumping the bike if it was not LEANING heavily on its side stand when you mounted it (as when the bike is parked on a slope to the right.) Similarly, mounting from the right tends to relieve pressure from the side stand unless you 'hop' onto your left foot before your fanny hits the seat. Worse, your right foot is planted firmly on the ground when you do that and if the bike were to fall over you could not get away from it. This is not a challenge of the motorcycle police. But they are hardly the best role models for most of us. Consider that despite the fact that full-face helmets are demonstrably safer than 3/4 or smaller shells, there is not a single motorcycle policeman in the entire country that wears one. Also please observe that keeping two hands on the grips is obviously safer than riding with only one in control. This is why those of us with CB's have a PTT button within reach of a finger on the left hand without removing that hand from the grip. Yet some of our motorcycle police still use a hand microphone. (I'm told that in California - and probably most everywhere else - most motorcycle police officers now use helmet mounted microphones and conventional left-thumb activated PTT switches - their helmet cords disconnect easily as they leave their bikes.) The answer to these apparently less safe practices of our motorcycle officers is that they have different risks to manage than we street riders do. They do not want to lose visual contact with a suspect for the brief time it takes to remove a full-face helmet (nor do they want to occupy both hands taking a helmet off.) They must often leave their bikes FAST and a microphone/speaker cord going to their helmets could cost them their lives if they had to deal with them at a vulnerable time. They tend to work busy freeways and mount/dismount their bikes frequently at the side of the road. (And, of course, they mount and dismount on the right to put their bikes between themselves and a possible bullet from the driver of the car in front of them.) All I'm saying is that suggesting that a motorcycle officer be used as a role model for how to behave on your street machine is a bad choice. It is clearly safer (except, perhaps, on the side of a freeway) to mount and dismount your bike from the left. It is safer to ride with a full-face helmet than a smaller shell. It is safer to use a built-in microphone than a hand-held. But then again, it is safer not being a motorcycle officer in any event.

[gavinmacfarlane]

Arden, In this part of the antipodes the traffic drives on the left side of the road, so if you tried to mount from the right you'd likely end up as a hood ornament on someones vehicle, or the camber of the road would have you doing a swallow dive with the bike into a ditch Gavin A18 Broadford Victoria Australia

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote: > C'mon guys...everyone knows the proper way to mount a loaded KLR is to > stand back a few feet from the left side of the bike, lift right leg > to about 90 degrees, point it at the low part of the seat, and hop, > hop, hop towards the bike until your right leg goes over the saddle > and you can shimmy on over and sit on down. Counting on the kickstand > to support you is fine on the street, but can get dicey on softer > surfaces. And those right-side mounters must be from an antipodean > universe. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right > side, > > > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > > > > > Art, > > > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and > over from the > > > left. > > > > Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over > from the right. > > WTF????

[Peter Meilstrup]

To lift a tire off the ground: approach bike from right side, set a milk crate next to bike (at rear of skid plate if you want the rear tire up, in front if you want the front tire up), push bike over onto the sidestand and other tire, then kick the milk crate under the bike. Way easier than trying to use a center stand. (anyone wanna buy a center stand?!) -pm

[Steven and Christina Wilkins]

I would suggest learning to get on and off of the high side of the bike whether you prefer stepping up on the right foot peg or not. Here are a couple of safety issues to consider. Climbing off of the left side is more likely to put you into the path of traffic. Also if the bike falls off of the kickstand as you get on or off, mounting from the right will let the bike fall away from you and not on top of you. If you have a big luggage case on the rear and step on the peg to swing your leg over, using the right peg will help take some of the weight off of your kickstand, putting more weight on the suspension and wheels. The kickstand may not ever break, but the extra weight on the left side from a left side mount could cause the kick stand to sink or fold. Then we have that problem of the bike falling on top of you again.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arden Kysely" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? > C'mon guys...everyone knows the proper way to mount a loaded KLR is to > stand back a few feet from the left side of the bike, lift right leg > to about 90 degrees, point it at the low part of the seat, and hop, > hop, hop towards the bike until your right leg goes over the saddle > and you can shimmy on over and sit on down. Counting on the kickstand > to support you is fine on the street, but can get dicey on softer > surfaces. And those right-side mounters must be from an antipodean > universe. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right > side, > > > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > > > > > Art, > > > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up and > over from the > > > left. > > > > Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over > from the right. > > WTF???? > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Arden Kysely]

I can get on either side of a bike, and when traffic or other conditions dictate (like pulling into my garage when I have too much crap lying around), I occasionally mount or dismount from the right. But if the bike isn't parked on a hard surface, that won't happen. Hopping on the right peg will unload the kickstand, but only until you plop your butt into the seat or put your foot on the left peg. At that moment you transfer a lot of weight to the left side of the bike, along with the momentum your body has from swinging over from the left. If the stand sinks, so do you! If I have a load on the back, I do the KLR shuffle. It's not always easy since I stand a whopping 5'8", but it works for me. When my crotch hits the seat, I have a little momentum to push the bike off the stand, and I'm ready to go. Horse or KLR, I'm a lefty. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Steven and Christina Wilkins" wrote:

> I would suggest learning to get on and off of the high side of the

bike

> whether you prefer stepping up on the right foot peg or not. Here

are a

> couple of safety issues to consider. Climbing off of the left side

is more

> likely to put you into the path of traffic. Also if the bike falls

off of

> the kickstand as you get on or off, mounting from the right will

let the

> bike fall away from you and not on top of you. If you have a big

luggage

> case on the rear and step on the peg to swing your leg over, using

the right

> peg will help take some of the weight off of your kickstand,

putting more

> weight on the suspension and wheels. The kickstand may not ever

break, but

> the extra weight on the left side from a left side mount could

cause the

> kick stand to sink or fold. Then we have that problem of the bike

falling

> on top of you again. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arden Kysely" > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:10 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: using footpeg to mount bike? > > > > C'mon guys...everyone knows the proper way to mount a loaded KLR

is to

> > stand back a few feet from the left side of the bike, lift right

leg

> > to about 90 degrees, point it at the low part of the seat, and

hop,

> > hop, hop towards the bike until your right leg goes over the

saddle

> > and you can shimmy on over and sit on down. Counting on the

kickstand

> > to support you is fine on the street, but can get dicey on softer > > surfaces. And those right-side mounters must be from an antipodean > > universe. > > > > __Arden > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones"

wrote:

> > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why? What is the reason for mounting from the harder right > > side, > > > > > instead of the lower, easier left side? > > > > > > > > Art, > > > > It works because you don't have to force your right foot up

and

> > over from the > > > > left. > > > > > > Of course not; you just have to force your left foot up and over > > from the right. > > > WTF???? > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >