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[David Farrell]

I am finally at the point where I can't ride and be comfortable with the midwest heat and humidity. I am in need of recommendations on Hot weather gear that will provide ventilation. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Needed: Helmet - Prefer full face or motorcross racing type with glasses,goggles. I need air Jacket - I want a mesh type jacket that still provides some type of armor protection but lots of ventilation. An optional liner that could make it waterproof would be nice but not necessary. Pants - I prefer ventilated pants with armor that I can put on over shorts and take off at my destination. Once again, ventilation is the key. Liner option would be nice but not necessary. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com

[Eric L. Green]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, David Farrell wrote:

> comfortable with the midwest heat and humidity. I am > in need of recommendations on Hot weather gear that > will provide ventilation. Any suggestions would be > appreciated.

I am using Joe Rocket mesh gear. My Arai helmet is pretty hot, but I'm reluctant to compromise on protection by going to something more open, for a full face helmet my Arai is pretty good especially with the "city vent" cracked open but I still end up popping the visor up at stoplights. I can't say that I'm overly impressed by the Joe Rocket mesh gear, but it's better than wearing a t-shirt and shorts in true squid fashion. Anybody got better mesh gear? _E

[Chris]

Very early impression still, but I just got a First Gear Kilimanjaro Air and like it quite a lot so far. It's a 3/4 length, has a full waterproof liner that seems like it will be warm enough into the 40's. It's almost a rubber sauna suit the way it's made so if it's in, the jacket will be hot for sure. I don't doubt it's waterproofness from the way it is made, but I haven't tested that yet. Lots of pockets on the jacket, typical of a 3/4, with a very large rear 'fanny pack' sort of pocket. You could put the whole liner in the rear pocket but it sticks out quite a lot and looks a bit odd. The jacket won't have any waterproof pockets in the body as the liner is the waterproof bit. Common with most of the affordable mesh gear though. Armor is typical light foam from First Gear, though the way FG does the armor pockets, upgrading it to the core-comp or the full on rigid GP type armor isn't too hard to do. I'm wearing a Six Six One Pressure Suit under it anyway so it isn't an issue. I primarily wanted the jacket as a shell over the armor, enroute to the trails. The front chest panels are mesh, the sleeves other than impact points are mesh and the whole back panel below the shoulders is mesh. Hard to see in any pics of it, but it's a lot more mesh than I'd expected...very nice. It's also a bit tighter weave and a bit more confidence inspiring than some of the lightest mesh gear I've seen. The Hein Gericke Timbuktu Air is a very similar jacket, just not available in tall sizes, but the styling is more muted if you don't like the louder colors of the Kilimanjaro. http://www.newenough.com/ is stocking the Kilimanjaro Air for a vendor example that I like to deal with. Other than the Kili, if you like short jackets and don't need tall sizes, my favorite that I've seen is the Fieldsheer Mach series. They have hard armor and feel very secure, but unfortunately they don't make anything that fits me.

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, David Farrell wrote: > > comfortable with the midwest heat and humidity. I am > > in need of recommendations on Hot weather gear that > > will provide ventilation. Any suggestions would be > > appreciated.

[John Holmes]

--- "Eric L. Green" wrote: For really hot days I use a BMW Airflow II jacket. I have VansVansonforated leathers if I dontdonte to wear street clothes underneath. ShoeShoei helmet lets in as much air as any full face can. When its hot there are always going to be compromises between blood and sweat...

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, David Farrell wrote: > > comfortable with the midwmidwestt and humidity. I > am > > in need of recommendations on Hot weather gear > that > > will provide ventilation. Any suggestions would > be > > appreciated. > > I am using Joe Rocket mesh gear. My AraiAraimet is > pretty hot, but I'm > reluctant to compromise on protection by going to > something more open, for > a full face helmet my AraiAraipretty good especially > with the "city vent" > cracked open but I still end up popping the visor up > at stoplights. I > can't say that I'm overly impressed by the Joe > Rocket mesh gear, but it's > better than wearing a t-shirt and shorts in true > squid fashion. Anybody > got better mesh gear? > > _E > > > Archive QuicQuicksearch >

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[Randall Marbach]

I second the motion on the First Gear Kilimanjaro Air jacket, plus I have the First Gear HT Air pants. Last December I rode from San Felipe Baja to Burbank in one of the worst rain storms to hit the area in years, approximately 400 miles of pouring rain. The jacket did not leak at all and the pants only had minor seepage along the outside zippers of the liners. I do wish it had a bit more armour, but I like the solution Chris outlined below. HTH Randy from Burbank. --- Chris wrote:

> Very early impression still, but I just got a First > Gear Kilimanjaro > Air and like it quite a lot so far. > > It's a 3/4 length, has a full waterproof liner that > seems like it will > be warm enough into the 40's. It's almost a rubber > sauna suit the way > it's made so if it's in, the jacket will be hot for > sure. I don't > doubt it's waterproofness from the way it is made, > but I haven't > tested that yet. > > Lots of pockets on the jacket, typical of a 3/4, > with a very large > rear 'fanny pack' sort of pocket. You could put the > whole liner in > the rear pocket but it sticks out quite a lot and > looks a bit odd. > > The jacket won't have any waterproof pockets in the > body as the liner > is the waterproof bit. Common with most of the > affordable mesh gear > though. > > Armor is typical light foam from First Gear, though > the way FG does > the armor pockets, upgrading it to the core-comp or > the full on rigid > GP type armor isn't too hard to do. I'm wearing a > Six Six One > Pressure Suit under it anyway so it isn't an issue. > I primarily > wanted the jacket as a shell over the armor, enroute > to the trails. > > The front chest panels are mesh, the sleeves other > than impact points > are mesh and the whole back panel below the > shoulders is mesh. Hard > to see in any pics of it, but it's a lot more mesh > than I'd > expected...very nice. It's also a bit tighter weave > and a bit more > confidence inspiring than some of the lightest mesh > gear I've seen. > > The Hein Gericke Timbuktu Air is a very similar > jacket, just not > available in tall sizes, but the styling is more > muted if you don't > like the louder colors of the Kilimanjaro. > > http://www.newenough.com/ is stocking the > Kilimanjaro Air for a vendor > example that I like to deal with. > > Other than the Kili, if you like short jackets and > don't need tall > sizes, my favorite that I've seen is the Fieldsheer > Mach series. They > have hard armor and feel very secure, but > unfortunately they don't > make anything that fits me. > > > On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, David Farrell wrote: > > > comfortable with the midwest heat and humidity. > I am > > > in need of recommendations on Hot weather gear > that > > > will provide ventilation. Any suggestions would > be > > > appreciated. > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Erik]

> I second the motion on the First Gear Kilimanjaro Air > jacket, plus I have the First Gear HT Air pants. Last

I have exactly the same setup for street riding/commuting, and in general I'm quite pleased with it. However, some doo-dads on the jacket havn't held up all that well - after 5700 miles of riding, the pull tab on the jacket zipper snapped off, and a couple of the rubber button covers are half-gone. And the front zipper on the pants has seperated and even if I put it back together, it just seperates again. Fairly unimportant zipper, though... the velcro still holds it shut.

> I do wish it had a bit more armour, but I like the > solution Chris outlined below.

Last weekend I rode ~80 miles to where some friends were camping, and then rode around it off-road. To get there, I wore my troy lee designs perforated leather armor suit under my Kili Air, after taking the included foam armor out of the jacket. Then while I was there I just left the jacket off. Great solution! I also recommend the TLD armor suit. I got a great deal on it at a dealership open house, and so far I'm quite happy. Took a couple of spills that I didn't even notice - I bet i would've had at least some sore shoulders without it. And the kidney belt provided great back support - I usually get a sore lower back pretty easily, and it kept my back happy on the way up and back and while I was there. erik

[Eric L. Green]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> When I went to pour the stuff into the engine I was surprised to > notice it was bright orange. I double checked the bottle and it > does say the stuff is glycol-based, so I can't really see any reason > why it would be incompatible with the KLR, but I know that orange > antifreeze is usually "dexcool" which is not meant to be mixed with > the old green/blue stuff at risk of gunking up the motor, etc.

Yes, it's "dexcool", and no, it won't gunk up your motor etc. if mixed with the green/blue stuff. All that'll happen is that it has less corrosion protection if mixed with the old stuff (basically reverts to being the old stuff). There's no reason to get rid of it, it's good stuff, has lots of corrosion protection "stuff" in it, and works fine in aluminum engines (most of GM's engines are aluminum nowdays). Just don't use green/blue stuff to top up your reservoir and you'll be fine. -E