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ravensval
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Post by ravensval » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:56 pm

Hi all I read the list when I can to learn everything possible about my KLR. I love motorcycles, and since this is the only bike I have, and my only transportation, I want to have as thorough of an understanding of my bike as I can possibly gain. This has not been easy. I really like the idea of doing my own maintenance, but have no practical mechanical experience. When I got my A19 last year, I only knew the names of obvious things like tires, spokes, handlebars, shock, brake... I couldn't have pointed out the swingarm, didn't know what a caliper did, had never seen an air filter, nor done an oil change, and couldn't have told you what a torque wrench looked like or how to use one. It is one thing to learn how to ride... (I actually taught myself on an old 1980 Honda 750 Supersport, which was extremely scary I must admit, but also exhilarating) but quite another thing to wrench. Not to mention all the tools one needs to buy, little by little, when your "toolbox" consists only of a screwdriver and a hammer. Yesterday, I successfully completely the valve job, and changed out all four shims to top clearances. I am writing to say thanks for the information from the list that helped me believe I could do it, and the websites, and the video. I actually couldn't have done it without the visuals from the video, because I am a visual learner. I can't read something I know nothing about and make complete sense of it. I have to *see* it to *get* it. So thank you! I have such enthusiasm for wrenching my own ride; for the relationship between the rider and the machine, and the machine and the road. There is a passion in my heart for motorcycles, and I think it must go back to that first time my uncle took me out on his dirtbike at the cabin they had. Of course, wanting to include everyone, he put all three of us kids on the seat, and over a little bump my cousin fell off the back. That didn't go over well with the mom's and I don't believe I got to ride again that weekend. But it didn't matter. I think I knew already in my heart that one day when I was big enough I'd have my own ride. I'd felt was it was like to fly, and I promised myself as a little girl I would know that feeling again. I kept my promise. RavensVal

Ed Chait
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Post by Ed Chait » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:27 pm

Yesterday, I successfully completely the valve job, and changed out all four shims to top clearances. I am writing to say thanks for the information from the list that helped me believe I could do it, and the websites, and the video. I actually couldn't have done it without the visuals from the video, because I am a visual learner. I can't read something I know nothing about and make complete sense of it. I have to *see* it to *get* it. So thank you! Very nice post, and congratulations on your valve job! Just curious, what video did you use to guide you? Working on bikes is very rewarding and gratifying for me also. It's also one of my favorite forms of therapy, especially when it goes well:). ed A17

ravensval
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Post by ravensval » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:13 pm

The video I used was ordered from Fred at Arrowhead. I didn't follow it exactly, but it was an invaluable visual reference. Without the video, I wouldn't have been able to do the job alone, and it showed me what to expect having never seen the inside of an engine before. RavensVal
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Chait" wrote: > > Yesterday, I successfully completely the valve job, and changed out > all four shims to top clearances. I am writing to say thanks for > the information from the list that helped me believe I could do it, > and the websites, and the video. I actually couldn't have done it > without the visuals from the video, because I am a visual learner. > I can't read something I know nothing about and make complete sense > of it. I have to *see* it to *get* it. So thank you! > Very nice post, and congratulations on your valve job! > > Just curious, what video did you use to guide you? > > Working on bikes is very rewarding and gratifying for me also. It's also > one of my favorite forms of therapy, especially when it goes well:). > > ed > A17

James Morrow Sr
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Post by James Morrow Sr » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:46 am

What a great post. I read Zen and the Art of the Motorcycle, about 40 years ago. I have always been one with my Motorcycles since (G). I too feel a significant link to my motorcycle, by working on it diligently, much greater than just owning it and riding it. Even more important, is the fact that you will do a better job than anyone you might pay to work on your motorcycle. I take 2X or more time to do service work, than a paid//commisioned wrench would do. I make sure it is perfect and recheck many times. You cannot pay enough to get that kind of quality / care work. By the way, I have had all the best bikes available over the years. I have more fun and ride my KLR650 when home on the weekends, more than any of my other bikes. Who would of thunk the simpliest least expensive bike could perform like this. Congradulations on your effort and effect. ATGATT
On 6/3/05, ravensval wrote: > Hi all I read the list when I can to learn everything possible > about my KLR. I love motorcycles, and since this is the only bike I > have, and my only transportation, I want to have as thorough of an > understanding of my bike as I can possibly gain. This has not been > easy. I really like the idea of doing my own maintenance, but have > no practical mechanical experience. When I got my A19 last year, I > only knew the names of obvious things like tires, spokes, > handlebars, shock, brake... I couldn't have pointed out the > swingarm, didn't know what a caliper did, had never seen an air > filter, nor done an oil change, and couldn't have told you what a > torque wrench looked like or how to use one. It is one thing to > learn how to ride... (I actually taught myself on an old 1980 Honda > 750 Supersport, which was extremely scary I must admit, but also > exhilarating) but quite another thing to wrench. Not to mention all > the tools one needs to buy, little by little, when your "toolbox" > consists only of a screwdriver and a hammer. > > Yesterday, I successfully completely the valve job, and changed out > all four shims to top clearances. I am writing to say thanks for > the information from the list that helped me believe I could do it, > and the websites, and the video. I actually couldn't have done it > without the visuals from the video, because I am a visual learner. > I can't read something I know nothing about and make complete sense > of it. I have to *see* it to *get* it. So thank you! > > I have such enthusiasm for wrenching my own ride; for the > relationship between the rider and the machine, and the machine and > the road. There is a passion in my heart for motorcycles, and I > think it must go back to that first time my uncle took me out on his > dirtbike at the cabin they had. Of course, wanting to include > everyone, he put all three of us kids on the seat, and over a little > bump my cousin fell off the back. That didn't go over well with the > mom's and I don't believe I got to ride again that weekend. But it > didn't matter. I think I knew already in my heart that one day when > I was big enough I'd have my own ride. I'd felt was it was like to > fly, and I promised myself as a little girl I would know that > feeling again. I kept my promise. > > RavensVal > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor

Jim
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Post by Jim » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:17 am

ATGATT = All The Gear, All The Time. I saw it comming. Here to help. --Jim A-15
> Congradulations on your effort and effect. ATGATT

ravensval
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Post by ravensval » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:11 pm

ATGIHSFBATAATAT = All The Gear I Have So Far Been Able To Afford, All The Absolute Time. Geez, there's no end to the things I'd like to buy as gear and as accessories to the daily ride. Finally got a wolfman tankbag, and it can practically hold a bag of groceries and also transforms into a good backpack for hiking with the special straps. RavensVal
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > ATGATT = All The Gear, All The Time. > > I saw it comming. Here to help. > --Jim > A-15 > > > > Congradulations on your effort and effect. ATGATT

ravensval
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Post by ravensval » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:48 pm

My KLR is my transportation, and there is a certain sense of confidence and reward that comes from understanding the things that I rely on. I don't like feeling helpless, and I don't have the money to *buy* a sense of security. If my bike breaks down and leaves me stranded, that's it. It's up to me to get out of that situation. I have worked very hard to make a conscious effort to move beyond mental passivity. I don't take this bike for granted; no matter how much it's working mechanisms have intimidated me, no matter how much my lack of sound mechanical knowledge has embarrassed me. Maybe that sounds silly. But the honest truth is I have fought hard to own a motorcycle, to reach a place in my life where it would be possible, and it is no small thing to me. In some ways riding seems to represent a form of accomplishment and freedom, being something I dreamed of doing but took thirty-one years to achieve. (And it was something that as much as I desired it, I also feared I would fail at it.) Sometimes when I ride the KLR I am just grinning in my helmet, and it is excitment and hope that I am feeling, the hope that the rest of my life will open up and bring me as much joy as this bike has. Please forgive my sentimentalities. RavensVal --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, James Morrow Sr wrote:
> What a great post. I read Zen and the Art of the Motorcycle,
about 40
> years ago. I have always been one with my Motorcycles since (G).
I
> too feel a significant link to my motorcycle, by working on it > diligently, much greater than just owning it and riding it. Even
more
> important, is the fact that you will do a better job than anyone
you
> might pay to work on your motorcycle. I take 2X or more time to do > service work, than a paid//commisioned wrench would do. I make
sure
> it is perfect and recheck many times. You cannot pay enough to get > that kind of quality / care work. > > By the way, I have had all the best bikes available over the
years.
> I have more fun and ride my KLR650 when home on the weekends, more > than any of my other bikes. Who would of thunk the simpliest
least
> expensive bike could perform like this. > > Congradulations on your effort and effect. ATGATT > > > > > > On 6/3/05, ravensval wrote: > > Hi all I read the list when I can to learn everything possible > > about my KLR. I love motorcycles, and since this is the only
bike I
> > have, and my only transportation, I want to have as thorough of
an
> > understanding of my bike as I can possibly gain. This has not
been
> > easy. I really like the idea of doing my own maintenance, but
have
> > no practical mechanical experience. When I got my A19 last
year, I
> > only knew the names of obvious things like tires, spokes, > > handlebars, shock, brake... I couldn't have pointed out the > > swingarm, didn't know what a caliper did, had never seen an air > > filter, nor done an oil change, and couldn't have told you what a > > torque wrench looked like or how to use one. It is one thing to > > learn how to ride... (I actually taught myself on an old 1980
Honda
> > 750 Supersport, which was extremely scary I must admit, but also > > exhilarating) but quite another thing to wrench. Not to mention
all
> > the tools one needs to buy, little by little, when your "toolbox" > > consists only of a screwdriver and a hammer. > > > > Yesterday, I successfully completely the valve job, and changed
out
> > all four shims to top clearances. I am writing to say thanks for > > the information from the list that helped me believe I could do
it,
> > and the websites, and the video. I actually couldn't have done
it
> > without the visuals from the video, because I am a visual
learner.
> > I can't read something I know nothing about and make complete
sense
> > of it. I have to *see* it to *get* it. So thank you! > > > > I have such enthusiasm for wrenching my own ride; for the > > relationship between the rider and the machine, and the machine
and
> > the road. There is a passion in my heart for motorcycles, and I > > think it must go back to that first time my uncle took me out on
his
> > dirtbike at the cabin they had. Of course, wanting to include > > everyone, he put all three of us kids on the seat, and over a
little
> > bump my cousin fell off the back. That didn't go over well with
the
> > mom's and I don't believe I got to ride again that weekend. But
it
> > didn't matter. I think I knew already in my heart that one day
when
> > I was big enough I'd have my own ride. I'd felt was it was like
to
> > fly, and I promised myself as a little girl I would know that > > feeling again. I kept my promise. > > > > RavensVal > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html
> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > James Morrow Sr > Union, MO > '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse > '00' BUSA + 15hp > '05' KLR650 + big fun factor

John Kokola
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Post by John Kokola » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:04 pm

You really do have the spirit of the previously mentioned "Zen And The Art ...", good onya. Remember, Pirsig started wrenching on his bike because he couldn't stand having his bike ruined by the dealer (he eventually tore down the motor of his Honda himself and found the sheared oil delivery pin, IIRC, that the dealer never found). Not to mention that your experience of interacting with something is enrichened when you have to struggle for it ... the yin to your yang. And finally, it's nice to see a sincere post around here every now and then. Thanks for sharing. --John Kokola -----Original Message----- From: ravensval I have worked very hard to make a conscious effort to move beyond mental passivity. I don't take this bike for granted; no matter how much it's working mechanisms have intimidated me, no matter how much my lack of sound mechanical knowledge has embarrassed me. Maybe that sounds silly. But the honest truth is I have fought hard to own a motorcycle, to reach a place in my life where it would be possible, and it is no small thing to me. In some ways riding seems to represent a form of accomplishment and freedom, being something I dreamed of doing but took thirty-one years to achieve.

James Morrow Sr
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Post by James Morrow Sr » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:30 pm

Sometimes when I ride the KLR I am just grinning in my helmet, and it is excitment and hope that I am feeling, the hope that the rest of my life will open up and bring me as much joy as this bike has. Please forgive my sentimentalities Hey RavensVal, You just stated the essence of Motorcycling. It is an important part of your life and you treat it so, and lean all about it. To me, our sentimentality and serious affection for the Motorcycle and riding is wonderous. To be able to get such satisfaction our of a simple endeavor. I have been riding for 42 years and still have a smile and goosbumps under my helmet, on every ride. I was a frustrated Pilot who never got to continue once the cost of flying got extremely expensive. Leaning the motorcycle through the curves has given me some of this back, and added the Freedom you feel in taking your motrocycle out of the garage, starting it up, and going anywhere you want. The KLR expands on that, in going anywhere you want that is not paved too. Keep your sentimentality for this motorcycling, it will serve you well all your life.

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Post by Analog Aardvark » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:49 pm

I bought 270s from swmototires about a month ago even though they weren't the cheapest BECAUSE if you buy 2 or more tires, they eat the shipping... and I'd heard great customer services stories. Once you account for the shipping their prices are close enough that I'll pay the difference for great service (which I got). They do sell tubes, in case you care, though I couldn't find the ones I wanted on their website. Add a note in your order, or email them. azmotorsports, while cheap as hell, gave me some of the absolute worst customer service I've ever had on my last order, and I'll never order from them again. They fed me patent bullshit for days, then after a week of "they're here and shipping today" crap several caklls running, they took 2 days to cancel my order so I could order elsewhere. Not again. YMMV. -Luke A17 --- Michael Silverstein wrote:
> Check out the vendor links on >
[www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motor ... r650/tires].
> I > researched them when I bought K270s a couple of > months ago and > www.swmototires.com was not competitive for those > tires at that time. I > think I ended up buying from www.tiresunlimited.com. > > Mike A18 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pete Russo > > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:42 PM > > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Best place to order > cheap tires > > > > > > http://swmototires.com/ > > > > Free shipping if you buy two tires. > > > > Pete > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] > > > On Behalf Of matteeanne@... > > > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:33 PM > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Best place to order cheap > > > tires > > > > > > 50/50's preferred. I need front and rear and a > new > > > set > > > of HD tubes. URL would be helpfull > > > Signed, > > > Baldy > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - > Release Date: 5/17/2005 > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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