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[dirk@bikerider.com]

Quoting Kyle :

> Honestly, I don't think HD's > or any other mfr is worth discussing in this group if they don't make > a DS bike.

Harley is IN the discussion, then: http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/4/9/78858649.htm http://www.realclassic.co.uk/snarley.html http://community.webshots.com/photo/168431938/168432102PxgpBt http://www.mathewscollection.com/motorcycles/Motorcycle_HD_MT500.htm They may not want to admit it, but they slapped a Rotax engine into a bike and sold it to the British Army as a military grade Off-Roader with lights and signals. The manager at St Paul HD had one in the showroom and couldn't get rid of it. I was there doing some work on the computers, he saw my KLR and offered me "A deal of a lifetime", something like 8,000 or 9,000 dollars for it... Dirk

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, dirk@b... wrote: 00.htm > > They may not want to admit it, but they slapped a Rotax engine into a bike and > sold it to the British Army as a military grade Off-Roader with lights and > signals. The manager at St Paul HD had one in the showroom and couldn't get rid > of it. I was there doing some work on the computers, he saw my KLR and offered > me "A deal of a lifetime", something like 8,000 or 9,000 dollars for it... I stopped in to look at that very bike, but at the time, they were asking 14k for it. It looked like a reasonable proposition at around $4,000.00.

[Susan Walters]

Kyle, sorry just saw your post and appreciate your perspective. Maybe I can clarify a couple of things I have no objection to "classifying" in the sense of having bike specific lists, discussion, humor, etc. That's much needed and useful for everyone. What I was commenting on was starting a conversation (as many do, not just reddog) with a comment lumping a bunch of people into a group based on the bike they ride so that they can go on to make negative and not necessarily accurate jabs at them. People do this to KLR riders all the time and it often quickly goes past funny to ignorant and stupid. And, yes, I have heard many male KLR riders complain about having this done to them. That's not to say everyone does but, yes, many do object, and quite vocally! Regarding the patient comment, I guess I was not clear. I simply meant they were patient with helping me learn to ride in the dirt. I did NOT mean they had to be patient (read "slow") while doing their own riding. These guys ride dirt at speed and ride all kinds of very knarly stuff on their GSs (mud, water, ruts, baby head rocks, etc. etc.) And, yes, these guys are having a barrel of fun and not particularly worried about proving something. Believe me no unskilled amateur is going to putt past one of these guys on the dirt. In fact, the concept of an unskilled amateur putting past a "skilled" GS rider is simply foreign to me....at that point you are not talking about a truly "skilled" GS rider. KLR riders post pics of their bikes lying on their sides in the dirt all the time. Why is that having fun but a GS rider in the same position must not be having fun? I think it really depends on the particular situation and cannot be assumed from the kind of bike. That's the only point I was trying to make. I don't give a rat's ass about being politically correct nor do I care to waste my time trying to appease anyone. But I do care about accuracy and fairness and that was not being exhibited. I would have been happy to generate some interesting conversation in which we all shared whatever divergent opinions we might have. Being emailed off list and told to go fuck myself .... well I expected better from a KLR rider!!! (LOL) Susan --- Kyle wrote:

> Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're > saying. Don't classify > riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup? > Would a KLR rider > really care if they were classied? I doubt it. > Patient and skillful is > exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so > than a KLR rider > when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a > non-skilled amateur like > myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an > 1150GS, the bmw > rider has to be asking himself, "is this still > fun...what am I trying > to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When > you set out to > have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I > embrace all DS > riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find > humour in other > people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting > in this KLR group > did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all > of us are as > objective as Susan is, as some of us are not > concerned with taking the > middle ground to apeze others or being politically > correct. I agree > with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring > either comment > though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize > that this is a > KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN > groups ARE > classified. > > ride on! > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen > wrote: > > AMEN Susan!!! > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!! > > > > Regards, > > Scott > > > > --- Susan Walters wrote: > > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > > > think > > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > > > riding > > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take > their > > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my > KLR > > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately > for a > > > really skilled rider there's that last place > only > > > the > > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at > that > > > point we're talking way more knarly than a > "nasty > > > dirt > > > road." > > > > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" > riders > > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > > > ride. > > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; > why > > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in > a > > > lot > > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what > kind > > > of > > > bike they ride. > > > > > > > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > > > My Opinion: > > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > > > love > > > > to see ride > > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > > > Adventure Bikes) are > > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a > gravel > > > > road. When anyone > > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > > > love > > > > my A16. I can't > > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease > and > > > > once there, having > > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down > the > > > > nasty dirt road. > > > ... > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > >

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[John Geddis]

Yeah, I'm not too impressed with him either. Annoying to say the least. -----Original Message----- From: John Kokola [mailto:jck22903@...] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:18 AM To: coopvilleasa; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] WTB - Clearview +9 The guy who posts twice daily about what he's selling has a windshield for sale. I don't blame you for missing it. --John Kokola

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of coopvilleasa > > Anyone have a clear (no tint) +9 for sale? Thanks. >