safety relay removal

[sethshaun]

you know that little pink hose that kills then enging in deep water or florida rain sometimes? well i almost got a "T" and ran another line up under the seat but then i thought why cant you run the first one under the seat? nothing comes out of it right? i mean its just a breather right? there must be a reason that its going out and away from other pieces on the bike. seth

[Doug Herr]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, sethshaun wrote:

> you know that little pink hose that kills then enging in deep water > or florida rain sometimes? well i almost got a "T" and ran another > line up under the seat but then i thought why cant you run the first > one under the seat? nothing comes out of it right? i mean its just > a breather right? there must be a reason that its going out and > away from other pieces on the bike.

Since it is an air breather for the carb then I would assume that in some condition there could be gas coming out of it. Maybe after a spill where the bike tips nearly upside down? -- Doug Herr doug@...

[Rodney Copeland]

One good reason Seth, is that normal temperature inversions from hot day to cool night will form condensation that will drain straight down into your carb. Couldn't imagine if the bike sat out for a few days, how much moisture may collect and run into the carb. Also, if you've done some sloppy muddy riding, and taken off your seat, it ain't all that clean under there. If you look under the rear of the bike, you'll see a large gap between the inner and outer fender. The rear tire packs muddy water all the way under the seat through there. I've found mud packed on my electrics under the seat, so I installed a flap to cover that area and under my seat stays quite clean now. I also put a bead of exterior caulking under the seat where the inner and outer fenders meet. I would install the Y-Mod to allow drainage to the ground. Rod

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sethshaun" wrote: > > you know that little pink hose that kills then enging in deep water > or florida rain sometimes? well i almost got a "T" and ran another > line up under the seat but then i thought why cant you run the first > one under the seat? nothing comes out of it right? i mean its just > a breather right? there must be a reason that its going out and > away from other pieces on the bike. > seth

[ENSEMBLE J-HOLLAND]

I have seen a T mod mentioned before. My Tengai died in very heavy rain, I was unable to find anything wrong with the ignition, the cams turn OK and the valve lash is OK (so no bent valves) I suspected the carb may be at fault. I am about to start looking over it again, could this pink tube be my problem? What happens? The bike would not start 4 or 5 hours later. Rodney Copeland wrote: One good reason Seth, is that normal temperature inversions from hot day to cool night will form condensation that will drain straight down into your carb. Couldn't imagine if the bike sat out for a few days, how much moisture may collect and run into the carb. Also, if you've done some sloppy muddy riding, and taken off your seat, it ain't all that clean under there. If you look under the rear of the bike, you'll see a large gap between the inner and outer fender. The rear tire packs muddy water all the way under the seat through there. I've found mud packed on my electrics under the seat, so I installed a flap to cover that area and under my seat stays quite clean now. I also put a bead of exterior caulking under the seat where the inner and outer fenders meet. I would install the Y-Mod to allow drainage to the ground. Rod

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sethshaun" wrote: > > you know that little pink hose that kills then enging in deep water > or florida rain sometimes? well i almost got a "T" and ran another > line up under the seat but then i thought why cant you run the first > one under the seat? nothing comes out of it right? i mean its just > a breather right? there must be a reason that its going out and > away from other pieces on the bike. > seth Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Doug Herr]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, ENSEMBLE J-HOLLAND wrote:

> I have seen a T mod mentioned before. My Tengai died in very > heavy rain, I was unable to find anything wrong with the > ignition, the cams turn OK and the valve lash is OK (so no bent > valves) I suspected the carb may be at fault. I am about to > start looking over it again, could this pink tube be my > problem? What happens? The bike would not start 4 or 5 hours > later.

I would not think it would take 4 or 5 hours to clear, but it does sound a lot like this one. This is an air intake for the carb. I think it opens to the top of the float bowl and thus you would get fuel starvation if it sucks up water thrown up from the rear tire when raining. Instructions for "T" mod: http://www.klr650.marknet.us/tmod.html -- Doug Herr doug@...

[ENSEMBLE J-HOLLAND]

Probably not my problem but I'll definately do that before attempting any water crossings Doug Herr wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, ENSEMBLE J-HOLLAND wrote: > I have seen a T mod mentioned before. My Tengai died in very > heavy rain, I was unable to find anything wrong with the > ignition, the cams turn OK and the valve lash is OK (so no bent > valves) I suspected the carb may be at fault. I am about to > start looking over it again, could this pink tube be my > problem? What happens? The bike would not start 4 or 5 hours > later. I would not think it would take 4 or 5 hours to clear, but it does sound a lot like this one. This is an air intake for the carb. I think it opens to the top of the float bowl and thus you would get fuel starvation if it sucks up water thrown up from the rear tire when raining. Instructions for "T" mod: http://www.klr650.marknet.us/tmod.html -- Doug Herr doug@... Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

I guess you're free to dress anyway you like but if you're wearing pink hose, there will be some mean comments and laughter. Just FWIW Norm

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

Marks' site has instructions for removal or an alternative might be to wire a DPST switch to allow the safeties to be by-passed if needed but left in place. My KLR has the switch mounted into the front of the side stand switch/solenoid cover. If a safety fails I can reach down with my left hand and flip the switch, then proceed. IMO a left hand access is better since it allows the front brake to be held on if needed. Switch location is up to the installer but my location is out of the way and wouldn't leave a noticeable hole if removed. A bonus is that I hit the switch and then run the bike while it is tipped far over on the stand to spray WD40 on the chain. Email if you need instructions. Norm