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Dennis N. · Post by **Dennis N.** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:43 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" wrote:

> > Add to > the consideration list the K270's, the Maxxis C6006, and the > GP110's. ---

---- -- ----Hi Steve, I can give you a brief report on the GP-110. I put them on 2 weeks ago and have ridden about 200 miles. The only other tire I have to compare them to are the K761's that came on my bike. I mostly ride on gravel and hard dirt roads they do great on it I can go thru corners with a lot more speed and confidence, they get slick pretty fast in mud but compared to those 761's there great. I'm going a little easy on the blacktop till I get used to the way they handle The kendas were great on twisty roads but I dont mind trading off a little road preformance for some more grip in the dirt. --- --- Good luck Dennis/ Greenville TX

baltopilas · Post by **baltopilas** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:53 am

Anyone have any experience with the MEF 99 tires? http://www.klr650.com/MEFO%20Sport%20Tires.htm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "The Mule" wrote: > I'll third the SWmoto nod. I've used D606s and TKC80s and several > others. Both these tires are my faves for their respective categories. For > lotsa pavement and some offroad, the TKC80 is a great long lasting sticky > pavement tire that does surprisingly well offroad if you mind it's > limitations. For barely DOT approved, yet surprisingly good wear and > performance on-road, and really good offroad bite, the D606 is what's > currently on my KLR........and will be for a long time to come. I live in a > city (90% of my miles are paved), but live for the 10% dirt at the end of > the rainbow. > > Steve > The Mule > A17 > > > > I'm with Guy on the supplier thing, but the D606s are my bag. They're > > excellent for both off-road and high-speed interstate use. You can > > expect 5,000-7,000 miles from a set if you don't peel out and ride > > wheelies. > > > > Mark > > > > At 9:45 PM -0500 1/16/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: > >>Steve, > >> > >>I can only comment on the TKC80s, which are an excellent 60/40 tire, > >>and IMHO, really stick well on the road - even when heeled over > >>pretty well. > >> > >>Not sure about MAW, but http://www.swmototires.com/ (Southwest > >>Moto) has been my on-line supplier for quite a while. Buy 2 tires, > >>and the shipping is free.

baltopilas · Post by **baltopilas** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:01 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" wrote: > For the rear, my favorite so far is the K270. I am averaging 9600

miles apiece

> on three of those. Decent off-road and in sand, acceptable on

pavement if

> you aren't a scratcher, $35 apiece. On the front, I prefer the Cheng

Shin 858,

> which is almost as cheap, works as well off-road, and doesn't squirm

like the

> Kenda on pavement. >

Beware of the Kenda 270s. I rode three sets down to fibers with no problems. The fourth set threw knobs within the first 350 miles. Of course, I was at the beginning of what was to be a 5,000 mile trip. I had to do some frantic tire searching in a place where no one stocked that size tire. To add insult to injury, the exact same thing happened to my riding partner on the very next trip at the very same place. That trip got scrapped all together. I won't relay on any more Kenda 270s.

Tengai Mark Van Horn · Post by **Tengai Mark Van Horn** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:04 am

At 5:14 AM +0000 1/17/05, Jud Jones wrote:

>My next two rear tires will be a Dunlop D606 and Cheng Shin 858, just to see >what they are like. By all accounts, the TKC80 works well, but doesn't last >long enough to suit me, and I have never met a Metzeler I liked.

The C858 rear works really well, but I burned through 'em too quickly, so I switched to the K270. I was a Kenda evangelist for many years until I switched to Dunlops last spring. I wanted a more aggressive tire with a stiffer carcass that could be punished over a long haul. I'll still grab a K270 for 'normal' use. I once ran a set of slightly more expensive IRC GP-1s, of which the K270 are a knockoff. I found the build quality to be a bit better and there was less sidewall flex However, the same size tire was narrower and the knobs were noticeably smaller in all dimensions; thus, the tire wore faster. I got about 80% of the mileage that I get from a K270. All of the above tires are good choices, and are even better when you factor in the price compared to the boutique treads out there. Mark

Rodney Copeland · Post by **Rodney Copeland** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:19 am

Not much gap between the lugs to swallow up the big stuff and minimize deflection. Looks like it does about as good as the stock tires which ain't sayin much, so they say. Nice tread for a little dirt road and mostly street ridin. Rod,,,,,,,,my opinion from lookin at the photo --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "baltopilas" wrote:

> > Anyone have any experience with the MEF 99 tires? > > http://www.klr650.com/MEFO%20Sport%20Tires.htm > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "The Mule" wrote: > > I'll third the SWmoto nod. I've used D606s and TKC80s and

several

> > others. Both these tires are my faves for their respective > categories. For > > lotsa pavement and some offroad, the TKC80 is a great long lasting > sticky > > pavement tire that does surprisingly well offroad if you mind

it's

> > limitations. For barely DOT approved, yet surprisingly good wear

and

> > performance on-road, and really good offroad bite, the D606 is

what's

> > currently on my KLR........and will be for a long time to come. I > live in a > > city (90% of my miles are paved), but live for the 10% dirt at the > end of > > the rainbow. > > > > Steve > > The Mule > > A17 > > > > > > > I'm with Guy on the supplier thing, but the D606s are my bag.

They're

> > > excellent for both off-road and high-speed interstate use. You

can

> > > expect 5,000-7,000 miles from a set if you don't peel out and

ride

> > > wheelies. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > At 9:45 PM -0500 1/16/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: > > >>Steve, > > >> > > >>I can only comment on the TKC80s, which are an excellent 60/40

tire,

> > >>and IMHO, really stick well on the road - even when heeled over > > >>pretty well. > > >> > > >>Not sure about MAW, but http://www.swmototires.com/ (Southwest > > >>Moto) has been my on-line supplier for quite a while. Buy 2

tires,

> > >>and the shipping is free.

Tengai Mark Van Horn · Post by **Tengai Mark Van Horn** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:33 am

Also, unless they last for ,8000+ miles, I'd say they're about $50 overpriced for a set. Mark At 4:18 PM +0000 1/17/05, Rodney Copeland wrote:

>Not much gap between the lugs to swallow up the big stuff and >minimize deflection. >Looks like it does about as good as the stock tires which ain't sayin >much, so they say. >Nice tread for a little dirt road and mostly street ridin. >Rod,,,,,,,,my opinion from lookin at the photo > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "baltopilas" >wrote: >> >> Anyone have any experience with the MEF 99 tires? >> >> http://www.klr650.com/MEFO%20Sport%20Tires.htm

Michael Silverstein · Post by **Michael Silverstein** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:56 pm

This sort of answers my question about tire impressions under different conditions pretty well: http://www.techstan.com/private/xr600/database/tire/tire.htm

> -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Silverstein [mailto:msilverstein@...] > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:06 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@... > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Tire Selection > > > > Speaking of tires I'm about to replace my stock rear, and was > wondering if the kind souls on this list could provide > impressions about tire performance under different conditions > beyond the already detailed information on the faqs at > http://www.thumperpage.com/articles/klrfaq.html and > http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html#wheelstires. > Specifically, what are people's impressions of the tires > listed in the 50/50 section, rated within a scale of 1-10: > > Road Sand Mud Hard > pack dirt Loose dirt Fine gravel Coarse gravel Rocks > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > -------------------------------------------- > Dunlop K750 (Stock tires) > Kenda K270 > Maxxis C-6006 > Continental TKC80 > Bridgestone Trailwing 41/42 > Bridgestone Trailwing 21/22 > IRC GP110 > Metzler Sahara 3 > Pirelli MT70 > IRC GP-1 > > Hope the formatting didn't get messed up. > > Mike A18 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005 > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005 > >

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Rodney Copeland · Post by **Rodney Copeland** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:33 pm

Interesting and I'm sure alot of work went into the comprehensive graphs, but some of it doesn't seem accurate, or it may just be me. There's a point where the more radical the pattern, the better it does in any soft stuff worse on the street. The graphs don't seem to reflect that. Rod, thanks for the link though, pretty cool --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:

> This sort of answers my question about tire impressions under

different

> conditions pretty well: > http://www.techstan.com/private/xr600/database/tire/tire.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Silverstein [mailto:msilverstein@s...] > > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:06 AM > > To: DSN_KLR650@Y... > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Tire Selection > > > > > > > > Speaking of tires I'm about to replace my stock rear, and was > > wondering if the kind souls on this list could provide > > impressions about tire performance under different conditions > > beyond the already detailed information on the faqs at > > http://www.thumperpage.com/articles/klrfaq.html and > > http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html#wheelstires. > > Specifically, what are people's impressions of the tires > > listed in the 50/50 section, rated within a scale of 1-10: > > > > Road Sand Mud Hard > > pack dirt Loose dirt Fine gravel Coarse gravel Rocks > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- > > -------------------------------------------- > > Dunlop K750 (Stock tires) > > Kenda K270 > > Maxxis C-6006 > > Continental TKC80 > > Bridgestone Trailwing 41/42 > > Bridgestone Trailwing 21/22 > > IRC GP110 > > Metzler Sahara 3 > > Pirelli MT70 > > IRC GP-1 > > > > Hope the formatting didn't get messed up. > > > > Mike A18 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date:

1/16/2005

> > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date:

1/16/2005

> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date:

1/16/2005

David Critchley · Post by **David Critchley** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:28 pm

If I promise to buy new tyres will the repetition stop ? DC Rodney Copeland wrote:

> > Something that hasn't been mentioned recently to my knowledge, is how > old the tires are when we actually purchase them. > I've learned from other's experiences, that tires can die in storage. > I'll only accept tires that look fresh, with no cracks when you flex > them, and fresh black rubber. > Don't forget to take it easy on new tires till they get seasoned some! > Rod > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "baltopilas" wrote: > >>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" > > wrote: > >>>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" >> > wrote: > >>>For the rear, my favorite so far is the K270. I am averaging 9600 >> >>miles apiece >> >>>on three of those. Decent off-road and in sand, acceptable on >> >>pavement if >> >>>you aren't a scratcher, $35 apiece. On the front, I prefer the >> > Cheng > >>Shin 858, >> >>>which is almost as cheap, works as well off-road, and doesn't >> > squirm > >>like the >> >>>Kenda on pavement. >>> >> >> >>Beware of the Kenda 270s. I rode three sets down to fibers with no >>problems. The fourth set threw knobs within the first 350 > > miles. > >>Of course, I was at the beginning of what was to be a 5,000 mile > > trip. > >> I had to do some frantic tire searching in a place where no one >>stocked that size tire. To add insult to injury, the exact same >>thing happened to my riding partner on the very next trip at the > > very > >>same place. That trip got scrapped all together. I won't relay >>on any more Kenda 270s. > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Rodney Copeland · Post by **Rodney Copeland** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:47 pm

OOPS! Sorry, didn't mean to repeat myself! What tires are you gonna buy, by the way? HHHAAAAAARRR!!!!! Rod,,,,,not really meanin to piss anyone off --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Critchley wrote:

> If I promise to buy new tyres will the repetition stop ? > DC > > Rodney Copeland wrote: > > > > Something that hasn't been mentioned recently to my knowledge, is

how

> > old the tires are when we actually purchase them. > > I've learned from other's experiences, that tires can die in

storage.

> > I'll only accept tires that look fresh, with no cracks when you

flex

> > them, and fresh black rubber. > > Don't forget to take it easy on new tires till they get seasoned

some!

> > Rod > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "baltopilas"

wrote:

> > > >>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" > > > > wrote: > > > >>>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wilkins5773" > >> > > wrote: > > > >>>For the rear, my favorite so far is the K270. I am averaging 9600 > >> > >>miles apiece > >> > >>>on three of those. Decent off-road and in sand, acceptable on > >> > >>pavement if > >> > >>>you aren't a scratcher, $35 apiece. On the front, I prefer the > >> > > Cheng > > > >>Shin 858, > >> > >>>which is almost as cheap, works as well off-road, and doesn't > >> > > squirm > > > >>like the > >> > >>>Kenda on pavement. > >>> > >> > >> > >>Beware of the Kenda 270s. I rode three sets down to fibers with

no

> >>problems. The fourth set threw knobs within the first 350 > > > > miles. > > > >>Of course, I was at the beginning of what was to be a 5,000 mile > > > > trip. > > > >> I had to do some frantic tire searching in a place where no one > >>stocked that size tire. To add insult to injury, the exact same > >>thing happened to my riding partner on the very next trip at the > > > > very > > > >>same place. That trip got scrapped all together. I won't

relay

> >>on any more Kenda 270s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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