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[Bogdan Swider]

> > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently than regular chain lube > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used only on the street do well > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile intervals?

Guess it's time to again post my little experiment. BTW from the time the test described was completed till now I put 17k miles on a 3rd chain also using only WD-40; so far it looks great. Read below.......... My first chain and sprocket set was changed at 19.5k miles. Since I bought the bike at 4k+ miles it had subsisted mainly on 80/90 gear oil applied every two tankfulls or so; the chain ran through a Z Chain Oiler gizmo every time it was lubed. I always lubed the chain warm cause that's what I was taught to do + the gear oil wouldn't spread on a cold chain. The drivetrain could have lasted longer but I had a long trip ahead of me and was going to take things apart anyway to clean and lube the uni-trac. My only problem with the gear oil was that it was sloppy. With my 2nd chain/sprockets I decided to lube with WD-40 for the life of the chain to see what would happen. WD would be cleaner I reckoned and could be bought in small transportable sizes in any "pueblito de mierda" in Mexico. Hey, it was even available in Canada. I lubed at the same intervals (2 tankfulls or less if I did dirt) and again used the Z Chain Oiler at every lube. I used the gadget more to spread the oil evenly than to clean the chain. I dispensed with the warm chain requirement and more often than not lubed the chain cold. I never cleaned the chain with kerosene or any thing else. The results are in. My chain and sprocket set has seen 21k miles. The majority of those were high speed highway often 80mph +; there was some dirt and some commuting as well. The front sprocket (15 tooth) was beginning to leave its' symmetrical state at least 5 or 6 k miles ago; its' state of wear is no longer subtle. The rear began to slightly wear maybe 3k ago now it's visibly worn but not yet in a claw state. The chain could go further though it's in the gray area when given the "pull back from the rear sprocket " test. The O-rings seem in fine condition. Folks that's good enough for me. Some of you yupsters enjoy conspicuously consuming; you feel you must have a brand name moto-specific lube/wax on your shelf or in your saddlebag. If that's the case you could adhere one of those moronic Nike logos to a can of WD. And what about the planet ?? We have a finite supply of wax. Is it not best saved for bikini waxing ?? Would I now do anything differently. Only one thing: Next time I'll change the front (countershaft) sprocket at 10k miles before it shows any wear. It's clearly the weakest part of this trio. I wonder if the rear sprocket and chain would last even longer if I did that. Yours faithfully, Bogdan

[Billy Cupit]

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[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

I have no degree from MIT, nor am I a rocket scientist. Heck, I cant even change a doohickey. That being said, I am a preventive maintenance mo fo (Thats right, MoFo) I use wd 40 on everything but my breakfast cereal. One reason I use it is that it leave no residue once it dries. With that in my, 90 weight, or wax, or plain jane chain lube (yes it rhymes dammit) all leave a residue behind. It has always been my understanding that these oils maintain a film bewtween contact points a and b (chain and sprockets) and thus reduces wear. With wd 40 you got metal on metal, now it may be clean metal on metal, thus reducing wear, but still metal on metal none the less. The greatest use for wd 40 besides cleaning chains is removing rust from chrome or s/s (with 900 grit or steel wool) It's also great for cleaning flux from glass after a stained glass window is complete. --- Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > > > > > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently > than regular chain lube > > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used > only on the street do well > > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile > intervals? > > Guess it's time to again post my little experiment. > BTW from the time the > test described was completed till now I put 17k > miles on a 3rd chain also > using only WD-40; so far it looks great. Read > below.......... > > My first chain and sprocket set was changed at > 19.5k miles. Since I bought > the bike at 4k+ miles it had subsisted mainly on > 80/90 gear oil applied > every two tankfulls or so; the chain ran through a Z > Chain Oiler gizmo every > time it was lubed. I always lubed the chain warm > cause that's what I was > taught to do + the gear oil wouldn't spread on a > cold chain. The drivetrain > could have lasted longer but I had a long trip ahead > of me and was going to > take things apart anyway to clean and lube the > uni-trac. My only problem > with the gear oil was that it was sloppy. > > With my 2nd chain/sprockets I decided to lube > with WD-40 for the life of > the chain to see what would happen. WD would be > cleaner I reckoned and could > be bought in small transportable sizes in any > "pueblito de mierda" in > Mexico. Hey, it was even available in Canada. I > lubed at the same intervals > (2 tankfulls or less if I did dirt) and again used > the Z Chain Oiler at > every lube. I used the gadget more to spread the oil > evenly than to clean > the chain. I dispensed with the warm chain > requirement and more often than > not lubed the chain cold. I never cleaned the chain > with kerosene or any > thing else. > > The results are in. My chain and sprocket set has > seen 21k miles. The > majority of those were high speed highway often > 80mph +; there was some dirt > and some commuting as well. The front sprocket (15 > tooth) was beginning to > leave its' symmetrical state at least 5 or 6 k miles > ago; its' state of wear > is no longer subtle. The rear began to slightly wear > maybe 3k ago now it's > visibly worn but not yet in a claw state. The chain > could go further though > it's in the gray area when given the "pull back from > the rear sprocket " > test. The O-rings seem in fine condition. > > Folks that's good enough for me. Some of you > yupsters enjoy conspicuously > consuming; you feel you must have a brand name > moto-specific lube/wax on > your shelf or in your saddlebag. If that's the case > you could adhere one of > those moronic Nike logos to a can of WD. And what > about the planet ?? We > have a finite supply of wax. Is it not best saved > for bikini waxing ?? > > Would I now do anything differently. Only one > thing: Next time I'll change > the front (countershaft) sprocket at 10k miles > before it shows any wear. > It's clearly the weakest part of this trio. I wonder > if the rear sprocket > and chain would last even longer if I did that. > > Yours faithfully, > > Bogdan > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

> I use wd 40 on everything but my > breakfast cereal. One reason I use it is that it leave > no residue once it dries.

According to the WD-40 website, it does leave a residue, you just can't see it, and it will look dry to the naked eye.

> With that in my, 90 weight, > or wax, or plain jane chain lube (yes it rhymes > dammit) all leave a residue behind.

Yes, a very visable one.

> It has always been my understanding that these oils > maintain a film bewtween contact points a and b (chain > and sprockets) and thus reduces wear.

Same with WD-40, although I will admit it is a lighter residue.

> With wd 40 you > got metal on metal, now it may be clean metal on > metal, thus reducing wear, but still metal on metal > none the less.

If you have a coating, it's not metal on metal. Thin or thick. And, if it were in fact metal on metal, do you think that riders would get 20,000 miles out of a chain? I don't. And that would mean that riders using WD-40 on their chains exclusively were actually riding around on a perfectly dry chain, for thousands and thousands of miles. I just don't think that is possible. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

> --- Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently > > than regular chain lube > > > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used > > only on the street do well > > > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile > > intervals? > > > > Guess it's time to again post my little experiment. > > BTW from the time the > > test described was completed till now I put 17k > > miles on a 3rd chain also > > using only WD-40; so far it looks great. Read > > below.......... > > > > My first chain and sprocket set was changed at > > 19.5k miles. Since I bought > > the bike at 4k+ miles it had subsisted mainly on > > 80/90 gear oil applied > > every two tankfulls or so; the chain ran through a Z > > Chain Oiler gizmo every > > time it was lubed. I always lubed the chain warm > > cause that's what I was > > taught to do + the gear oil wouldn't spread on a > > cold chain. The drivetrain > > could have lasted longer but I had a long trip ahead > > of me and was going to > > take things apart anyway to clean and lube the > > uni-trac. My only problem > > with the gear oil was that it was sloppy. > > > > With my 2nd chain/sprockets I decided to lube > > with WD-40 for the life of > > the chain to see what would happen. WD would be > > cleaner I reckoned and could > > be bought in small transportable sizes in any > > "pueblito de mierda" in > > Mexico. Hey, it was even available in Canada. I > > lubed at the same intervals > > (2 tankfulls or less if I did dirt) and again used > > the Z Chain Oiler at > > every lube. I used the gadget more to spread the oil > > evenly than to clean > > the chain. I dispensed with the warm chain > > requirement and more often than > > not lubed the chain cold. I never cleaned the chain > > with kerosene or any > > thing else. > > > > The results are in. My chain and sprocket set has > > seen 21k miles. The > > majority of those were high speed highway often > > 80mph +; there was some dirt > > and some commuting as well. The front sprocket (15 > > tooth) was beginning to > > leave its' symmetrical state at least 5 or 6 k miles > > ago; its' state of wear > > is no longer subtle. The rear began to slightly wear > > maybe 3k ago now it's > > visibly worn but not yet in a claw state. The chain > > could go further though > > it's in the gray area when given the "pull back from > > the rear sprocket " > > test. The O-rings seem in fine condition. > > > > Folks that's good enough for me. Some of you > > yupsters enjoy conspicuously > > consuming; you feel you must have a brand name > > moto-specific lube/wax on > > your shelf or in your saddlebag. If that's the case > > you could adhere one of > > those moronic Nike logos to a can of WD. And what > > about the planet ?? We > > have a finite supply of wax. Is it not best saved > > for bikini waxing ?? > > > > Would I now do anything differently. Only one > > thing: Next time I'll change > > the front (countershaft) sprocket at 10k miles > > before it shows any wear. > > It's clearly the weakest part of this trio. I wonder > > if the rear sprocket > > and chain would last even longer if I did that. > > > > Yours faithfully, > > > > Bogdan > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

[revmaaatin]

SNIP But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently

> than regular chain lube > > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used > only on the street do well > > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile > intervals?

Sorry for the snip, it was taken out of the long series of "discussions" so it is SNIP with out attribution, because it had no attribution in the previous snip. I'm thinking this WD-40 thread is not about what is the best lube/cleaner but the real issue is doing the maintenance necessary to make the beast, best. Just curious, as I am no rocket scientist either, but Why would you trust your chain lube for 500 miles? How about this, Every time you park your bike for the night, lube the chain, even if it was for a 40 or a 100 mile ride. Put it on its center stand,(best farkle for the money)and lube the chain with WD- 40. and how about this: Buy gas, lube the chain. WD-40 is cheap. Buy the Walmart variety, it is even cheaper. Cheaper than chains and sprockets. Last summer on the great divide ride, we followed those guide lines. Lube, lube often. No chain problems, and it gave you a chance to look at some of the critical elements on your bike. and if my caluculations are correct, it will allow you to countersteer into the next boulder, rut, ditch, badger hole with a faster, cleaner chain! Then, all your DR and GS buddies then can say,"Boy he/she sure can countersteer into that boulder/rut/ditch/badger hole much faster with WD-40 than chain wax,etal." revmaaatin.

[John Kokola]

Here's what I like about WD-40 the most: When it runs out, or I forget to bring it, I run into the gas station where I just filled up and buy a can for $2. To me, the fact that we're discussing this with intensity means that it can't be as ill-suited to chain lubrication as some may think. --John Kokola

[John Biccum]

I have to preface this with a disclaimer: I'm a frugal so and so, a tightwad, I have a firm grip on my wallet. I resisted spending the money for a Scottoiler for waaay to long. But now that I have been running one for 5,000 miles all I can say is "Why didn't I do this when I first got the bike?" I put the Scottoiler on just after installing a new driveline (DID gold X-Ring chain, OEM countershaft. OEM sprocket). I adjusted the chain when it was first installed and have not had to touch it since. No adjustments for stretch (there has been no stretch), no lube, no cleaning. I just top off the Scottoiler reservoir every 500 miles or so and ride! I'd bet that the device would eventually pay for itself in chains, countersharts etc. not having to be replaced, but I don't even care about the economics of it. It just automagically does it job and I'm enjoying not having to worry about chain maintenence. I'm still using the one liter bottle of scottoil lube that came with the oiler but I will switch to ATF or maybe chainsaw bar oil when the liter bottle is finally finished.

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 22:32 Subject: [DSN_klr650] WD-40 as chain lube > > > SNIP > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently >> than regular chain lube >> > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used >> only on the street do well >> > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile >> intervals? > > Sorry for the snip, it was taken out of the long series > of "discussions" so it is SNIP with out attribution, because it had > no attribution in the previous snip. > > I'm thinking this WD-40 thread is not about what is the best > lube/cleaner but the real issue is doing the maintenance necessary to > make the beast, best. Just curious, as I am no rocket scientist > either, but Why would you trust your chain lube for 500 miles? How > about this, Every time you park your bike for the night, lube the > chain, even if it was for a 40 or a 100 mile ride. Put it on its > center stand,(best farkle for the money)and lube the chain with WD- > 40. and how about this: Buy gas, lube the chain. WD-40 is cheap. > Buy the Walmart variety, it is even cheaper. Cheaper than chains and > sprockets. Last summer on the great divide ride, we followed those > guide lines. Lube, lube often. No chain problems, and it gave you a > chance to look at some of the critical elements on your bike. and if > my caluculations are correct, it will allow you to countersteer into > the next boulder, rut, ditch, badger hole with a faster, cleaner > chain! Then, all your DR and GS buddies then can say,"Boy he/she sure > can countersteer into that boulder/rut/ditch/badger hole much faster > with WD-40 than chain wax,etal." > revmaaatin. > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Don Van Dyke]

Where on your KLR did you tap into the vacuum? Does your Scottoiler apply oil to one side or both sides of the sprocket? At 01:12 AM 12/18/2004 -0800, John Biccum wrote:

>I have to preface this with a disclaimer: I'm a frugal so and so, a >tightwad, I have a firm grip on my wallet. > >I resisted spending the money for a Scottoiler for waaay to long. But now >that I have been running one for 5,000 miles all I can say is "Why didn't I >do this when I first got the bike?" I put the Scottoiler on just after >installing a new driveline (DID gold X-Ring chain, OEM countershaft. OEM >sprocket). I adjusted the chain when it was first installed and have not >had to touch it since. No adjustments for stretch (there has been no >stretch), no lube, no cleaning. I just top off the Scottoiler reservoir >every 500 miles or so and ride! > >I'd bet that the device would eventually pay for itself in chains, >countersharts etc. not having to be replaced, but I don't even care about >the economics of it. It just automagically does it job and I'm enjoying not >having to worry about chain maintenence. I'm still using the one liter >bottle of scottoil lube that came with the oiler but I will switch to ATF or >maybe chainsaw bar oil when the liter bottle is finally finished. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "revmaaatin" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 22:32 >Subject: [DSN_klr650] WD-40 as chain lube > > > > > > > > SNIP > > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently > >> than regular chain lube > >> > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used > >> only on the street do well > >> > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile > >> intervals? > > > > Sorry for the snip, it was taken out of the long series > > of "discussions" so it is SNIP with out attribution, because it had > > no attribution in the previous snip. > > > > I'm thinking this WD-40 thread is not about what is the best > > lube/cleaner but the real issue is doing the maintenance necessary to > > make the beast, best. Just curious, as I am no rocket scientist > > either, but Why would you trust your chain lube for 500 miles? How > > about this, Every time you park your bike for the night, lube the > > chain, even if it was for a 40 or a 100 mile ride. Put it on its > > center stand,(best farkle for the money)and lube the chain with WD- > > 40. and how about this: Buy gas, lube the chain. WD-40 is cheap. > > Buy the Walmart variety, it is even cheaper. Cheaper than chains and > > sprockets. Last summer on the great divide ride, we followed those > > guide lines. Lube, lube often. No chain problems, and it gave you a > > chance to look at some of the critical elements on your bike. and if > > my caluculations are correct, it will allow you to countersteer into > > the next boulder, rut, ditch, badger hole with a faster, cleaner > > chain! Then, all your DR and GS buddies then can say,"Boy he/she sure > > can countersteer into that boulder/rut/ditch/badger hole much faster > > with WD-40 than chain wax,etal." > > revmaaatin. > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Don Van Dyke Sacramento, California Moto@... www.intellection.org

[Michael Silverstein]

Lately, I've been using "Teflon Multi-Use Lubricant" made by Finish Line on my bicycle and have been pretty happy with it. It says it sets up with a clean, dry film. Anyone tried something like this on a motorcycle? Don't know if it would harm the O-rings or be as effective as WD-40.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Saltzer [mailto:k.saltzer@...] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:34 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: WD-40 as chain lube > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > I use wd 40 on everything but my > > breakfast cereal. One reason I use it is that it leave > > no residue once it dries. > > According to the WD-40 website, it does leave a residue, you just > can't see it, and it will look dry to the naked eye. > > > With that in my, 90 weight, > > or wax, or plain jane chain lube (yes it rhymes > > dammit) all leave a residue behind. > > Yes, a very visable one. > > > It has always been my understanding that these oils > > maintain a film bewtween contact points a and b (chain > > and sprockets) and thus reduces wear. > > Same with WD-40, although I will admit it is a lighter residue. > > > With wd 40 you > > got metal on metal, now it may be clean metal on > > metal, thus reducing wear, but still metal on metal > > none the less. > > If you have a coating, it's not metal on metal. Thin or thick. And, > if it were in fact metal on metal, do you think that riders would get > 20,000 miles out of a chain? I don't. And that would mean that > riders using WD-40 on their chains exclusively were actually riding > around on a perfectly dry chain, for thousands and thousands of > miles. I just don't think that is possible. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > > --- Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently > > > than regular chain lube > > > > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used > > > only on the street do well > > > > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile > > > intervals? > > > > > > Guess it's time to again post my little experiment. > > > BTW from the time the > > > test described was completed till now I put 17k > > > miles on a 3rd chain also > > > using only WD-40; so far it looks great. Read below.......... > > > > > > My first chain and sprocket set was changed at > > > 19.5k miles. Since I bought > > > the bike at 4k+ miles it had subsisted mainly on > > > 80/90 gear oil applied > > > every two tankfulls or so; the chain ran through a Z > > > Chain Oiler gizmo every > > > time it was lubed. I always lubed the chain warm > > > cause that's what I was > > > taught to do + the gear oil wouldn't spread on a > > > cold chain. The drivetrain > > > could have lasted longer but I had a long trip ahead > > > of me and was going to > > > take things apart anyway to clean and lube the > > > uni-trac. My only problem > > > with the gear oil was that it was sloppy. > > > > > > With my 2nd chain/sprockets I decided to lube > > > with WD-40 for the life of > > > the chain to see what would happen. WD would be > > > cleaner I reckoned and could > > > be bought in small transportable sizes in any > > > "pueblito de mierda" in > > > Mexico. Hey, it was even available in Canada. I > > > lubed at the same intervals > > > (2 tankfulls or less if I did dirt) and again used > > > the Z Chain Oiler at > > > every lube. I used the gadget more to spread the oil > > > evenly than to clean > > > the chain. I dispensed with the warm chain > > > requirement and more often than > > > not lubed the chain cold. I never cleaned the chain > > > with kerosene or any > > > thing else. > > > > > > The results are in. My chain and sprocket set has > > > seen 21k miles. The > > > majority of those were high speed highway often > > > 80mph +; there was some dirt > > > and some commuting as well. The front sprocket (15 > > > tooth) was beginning to > > > leave its' symmetrical state at least 5 or 6 k miles > > > ago; its' state of wear > > > is no longer subtle. The rear began to slightly wear > > > maybe 3k ago now it's > > > visibly worn but not yet in a claw state. The chain > > > could go further though > > > it's in the gray area when given the "pull back from > > > the rear sprocket " > > > test. The O-rings seem in fine condition. > > > > > > Folks that's good enough for me. Some of you > > > yupsters enjoy conspicuously > > > consuming; you feel you must have a brand name moto-specific > > > lube/wax on your shelf or in your saddlebag. If that's the case > > > you could adhere one of > > > those moronic Nike logos to a can of WD. And what > > > about the planet ?? We > > > have a finite supply of wax. Is it not best saved > > > for bikini waxing ?? > > > > > > Would I now do anything differently. Only one > > > thing: Next time I'll change > > > the front (countershaft) sprocket at 10k miles > > > before it shows any wear. > > > It's clearly the weakest part of this trio. I wonder > > > if the rear sprocket > > > and chain would last even longer if I did that. > > > > > > Yours faithfully, > > > > > > Bogdan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 > >

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[John Biccum]

I found this site and did the installation exactly as documented here. http://www.bohnarmor.com/riderstations/haycockSO.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Van Dyke" To: "John Biccum" ; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:47 Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] WD-40 as chain lube > > Where on your KLR did you tap into the vacuum? > > Does your Scottoiler apply oil to one side or both sides of the sprocket? > > > > At 01:12 AM 12/18/2004 -0800, John Biccum wrote: > >>I have to preface this with a disclaimer: I'm a frugal so and so, a >>tightwad, I have a firm grip on my wallet. >> >>I resisted spending the money for a Scottoiler for waaay to long. But now >>that I have been running one for 5,000 miles all I can say is "Why didn't >>I >>do this when I first got the bike?" I put the Scottoiler on just after >>installing a new driveline (DID gold X-Ring chain, OEM countershaft. OEM >>sprocket). I adjusted the chain when it was first installed and have not >>had to touch it since. No adjustments for stretch (there has been no >>stretch), no lube, no cleaning. I just top off the Scottoiler reservoir >>every 500 miles or so and ride! >> >>I'd bet that the device would eventually pay for itself in chains, >>countersharts etc. not having to be replaced, but I don't even care about >>the economics of it. It just automagically does it job and I'm enjoying >>not >>having to worry about chain maintenence. I'm still using the one liter >>bottle of scottoil lube that came with the oiler but I will switch to ATF >>or >>maybe chainsaw bar oil when the liter bottle is finally finished. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "revmaaatin" >>To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 22:32 >>Subject: [DSN_klr650] WD-40 as chain lube >> >> >> > >> > >> > SNIP >> > But does WD-40 need to be applied more frequently >> >> than regular chain lube >> >> > to keep a chain lubricated? Will a chain used >> >> only on the street do well >> >> > with WD-40 if it is lubricated at 500 mile >> >> intervals? >> > >> > Sorry for the snip, it was taken out of the long series >> > of "discussions" so it is SNIP with out attribution, because it had >> > no attribution in the previous snip. >> > >> > I'm thinking this WD-40 thread is not about what is the best >> > lube/cleaner but the real issue is doing the maintenance necessary to >> > make the beast, best. Just curious, as I am no rocket scientist >> > either, but Why would you trust your chain lube for 500 miles? How >> > about this, Every time you park your bike for the night, lube the >> > chain, even if it was for a 40 or a 100 mile ride. Put it on its >> > center stand,(best farkle for the money)and lube the chain with WD- >> > 40. and how about this: Buy gas, lube the chain. WD-40 is cheap. >> > Buy the Walmart variety, it is even cheaper. Cheaper than chains and >> > sprockets. Last summer on the great divide ride, we followed those >> > guide lines. Lube, lube often. No chain problems, and it gave you a >> > chance to look at some of the critical elements on your bike. and if >> > my caluculations are correct, it will allow you to countersteer into >> > the next boulder, rut, ditch, badger hole with a faster, cleaner >> > chain! Then, all your DR and GS buddies then can say,"Boy he/she sure >> > can countersteer into that boulder/rut/ditch/badger hole much faster >> > with WD-40 than chain wax,etal." >> > revmaaatin. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >>List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > Don Van Dyke > Sacramento, California > Moto@... > www.intellection.org > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >