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[frankconley]

This morning I went out to start the bike. It was about 25 degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and started up. I backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k rpms and went to suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes and then suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the starter, but it wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so and tried again. Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the throttle, tried again. Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not catching at all. Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it was just some crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the bike was running again, I tried bump starting it coasting down a hill. Wouldn't catch. The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping to prioritize that list based on the symptoms (and based on the fact that I have no warm garage to work in--only the yard). BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the battery and topped it off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last week without incident, and yesterday without incident. This is the first mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles.

[Randall Marbach]

Hi Frank Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float chamber? HTH Randy from Burbank --- frankconley wrote:

> > > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > about 25 > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > started up. I > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > rpms and went to > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > and then > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > starter, but it > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > and tried again. > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > throttle, tried again. > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > catching at > all. > > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > was just some > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > bike was > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > down a hill. > Wouldn't catch. > > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping > to prioritize > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the > fact that I have > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > battery and topped it > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > week without > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > the first > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[frankconley]

There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one point I also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap open. Didn't make any difference. I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float chamber. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach wrote:

> Hi Frank > > Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float > chamber? > > HTH > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > --- frankconley wrote: > > > > > > > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > > about 25 > > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > > started up. I > > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > > rpms and went to > > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > > and then > > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > > starter, but it > > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > > and tried again. > > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > > throttle, tried again. > > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > > catching at > > all. > > > > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > > was just some > > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > > bike was > > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > > down a hill. > > Wouldn't catch. > > > > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping > > to prioritize > > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the > > fact that I have > > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > > > > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > > battery and topped it > > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > > week without > > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > > the first > > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

[Robert Diaz]

Is the gas on? If it keeps turning over then you know it's not the battery. Check the obvious stuff first. Rob D Randall Marbach wrote: Hi Frank Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float chamber? HTH Randy from Burbank --- frankconley wrote:

> > > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > about 25 > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > started up. I > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > rpms and went to > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > and then > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > starter, but it > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > and tried again. > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > throttle, tried again. > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > catching at > all. > > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > was just some > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > bike was > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > down a hill. > Wouldn't catch. > > > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > battery and topped it > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > week without > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > the first > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. >

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[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

There's a drain screw on the bottom right side of the bowl. Open that and see if fuel runs out. If there is fuel in the bowl, drain it until it stops (assuming you didn't modify the petcock), then try starting the bike. Mark At 5:46 PM +0000 12/15/04, frankconley wrote:

>There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one point I >also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap open. >Didn't make any difference. > >I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float chamber. > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach >wrote: >> Hi Frank >> >> Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float >> chamber? >> >> HTH >> >> Randy from Burbank >> >> >> >> >> --- frankconley wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was >> > about 25 >> > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and >> > started up. I >> > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k >> > rpms and went to >> > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes >> > and then >> > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the >> > starter, but it >> > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so >> > and tried again. >> > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the >> > throttle, tried again. >> > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not >> > catching at >> > all. >> > >> > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it >> > was just some >> > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the >> > bike was >> > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting >> > down a hill. >> > Wouldn't catch. >> > >> > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping >> > to prioritize >> > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the >> > fact that I have >> > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). >> > >> > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the >> > battery and topped it >> > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last >> > week without >> > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is >> > the first >> > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at >> > www.dualsportnews.com >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >> > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. >> http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[W Penn Carr]

Is the petcock on run or off? Penn Carr St. Louis 2003 klr650 "ROCKY" COG 3256 ZG1000 Sadly Sold , but still a member of "The COG"

----- Original Message ----- From: "frankconley" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Help! Dead A18 > > > There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one point I > also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap open. > Didn't make any difference. > > I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float chamber. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > wrote: >> Hi Frank >> >> Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float >> chamber? >> >> HTH >> >> Randy from Burbank >> >> >> >> >> --- frankconley wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was >> > about 25 >> > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and >> > started up. I >> > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k >> > rpms and went to >> > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes >> > and then >> > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the >> > starter, but it >> > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so >> > and tried again. >> > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the >> > throttle, tried again. >> > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not >> > catching at >> > all. >> > >> > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it >> > was just some >> > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the >> > bike was >> > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting >> > down a hill. >> > Wouldn't catch. >> > >> > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping >> > to prioritize >> > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the >> > fact that I have >> > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). >> > >> > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the >> > battery and topped it >> > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last >> > week without >> > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is >> > the first >> > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at >> > www.dualsportnews.com >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >> > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. >> http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "frankconley" wrote:

> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was about 25 > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and started up. I > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k rpms and went to > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes and then > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the starter, but it > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so and tried again. > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the throttle, tried again. > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not catching at > all. > > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it was just some > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the bike was > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting down a hill. > Wouldn't catch. > > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping to prioritize > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the fact that I have > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the battery and topped it > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last week without > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is the first > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles.

Try charging the battery. If it was low on water, and you topped it without putting a charge on it, then starting the bike in cold weather probably drained it to the point where it had just enough juice to crank, but not enough to give a good spark. Combine with low fuel volatility, and you have a bike that will crank but not start.

[frankconley]

It's on run. I switched it to reserve to see if maybe there was some debris in there or something. No change.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "W Penn Carr" wrote: > Is the petcock on run or off? > Penn Carr St. Louis > 2003 klr650 "ROCKY" > COG 3256 ZG1000 Sadly Sold , but still > a member of "The COG" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "frankconley" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:46 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Help! Dead A18 > > > > > > > > There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one point I > > also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap open. > > Didn't make any difference. > > > > I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float chamber. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > > wrote: > >> Hi Frank > >> > >> Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float > >> chamber? > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Randy from Burbank > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- frankconley wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > >> > about 25 > >> > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > >> > started up. I > >> > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > >> > rpms and went to > >> > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > >> > and then > >> > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > >> > starter, but it > >> > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > >> > and tried again. > >> > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > >> > throttle, tried again. > >> > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > >> > catching at > >> > all. > >> > > >> > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > >> > was just some > >> > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > >> > bike was > >> > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > >> > down a hill. > >> > Wouldn't catch. > >> > > >> > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping > >> > to prioritize > >> > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the > >> > fact that I have > >> > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > >> > > >> > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > >> > battery and topped it > >> > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > >> > week without > >> > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > >> > the first > >> > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > >> > www.dualsportnews.com > >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > >> > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > >> http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[cactus_reese]

My vote is its an electrical issue. Check the emergency kill switch on the handlebar. I think I remember that the bike will still crank if that has been bumped to off, but I could be wrong. I sometimes mix up behaviors of my bikes. If that is not it, your kickstand or clutch switch could be acting up in the cold. -Bryan '98 KLR650 A12 '03 Kymco People 150 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "frankconley" wrote:

> > It's on run. I switched it to reserve to see if maybe there was > some debris in there or something. No change. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "W Penn Carr"

wrote:

> > Is the petcock on run or off? > > Penn Carr St. Louis > > > > > > There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one point

I

> > > also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap > open. > > > Didn't make any difference. > > > > > > I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float chamber. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > > > > wrote: > > >> Hi Frank > > >> > > >> Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float > > >> chamber? > > >> > > >> HTH > > >> > > >> Randy from Burbank > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- frankconley wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > > >> > about 25 > > >> > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > > >> > started up. I > > >> > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > > >> > rpms and went to > > >> > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > > >> > and then > > >> > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > > >> > starter, but it > > >> > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > > >> > and tried again. > > >> > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > > >> > throttle, tried again. > > >> > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > > >> > catching at > > >> > all. > > >> > > > >> > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > > >> > was just some > > >> > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > > >> > bike was > > >> > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > > >> > down a hill. > > >> > Wouldn't catch. > > >> > > > >> > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping > > >> > to prioritize > > >> > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the > > >> > fact that I have > > >> > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > > >> > > > >> > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > > >> > battery and topped it > > >> > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > > >> > week without > > >> > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > > >> > the first > > >> > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > >> > www.dualsportnews.com > > >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > >> > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________ > > >> Do you Yahoo!? > > >> Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > > >> http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at:

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[frankconley]

I put the kill switch through its paces thinking it might be fritzy, but no change. It doesn't turn over with the switch to off. The sidestand switch is bypassed. I recently cleaned the clutch switch and dielectric greased it, but will check it tonight. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "cactus_reese" wrote:

> > My vote is its an electrical issue. Check the emergency kill

switch

> on the handlebar. I think I remember that the bike will still

crank

> if that has been bumped to off, but I could be wrong. I sometimes > mix up behaviors of my bikes. > > If that is not it, your kickstand or clutch switch could be acting > up in the cold. > -Bryan > '98 KLR650 A12 > '03 Kymco People 150 > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "frankconley"

> wrote: > > > > It's on run. I switched it to reserve to see if maybe there was > > some debris in there or something. No change. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "W Penn Carr" > wrote: > > > Is the petcock on run or off? > > > Penn Carr St. Louis > > > > > > > > There's gas in the tank (little over half full). At one

point

> I > > > > also opened the tank cap and tried starting it with the cap > > open. > > > > Didn't make any difference. > > > > > > > > I don't know how to check if there's gas in the float

chamber.

> > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Frank > > > >> > > > >> Did you run out of gas? Is there gas in the float > > > >> chamber? > > > >> > > > >> HTH > > > >> > > > >> Randy from Burbank > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- frankconley wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > This morning I went out to start the bike. It was > > > >> > about 25 > > > >> > degrees. Choke full on, she cranked a few times and > > > >> > started up. I > > > >> > backed off the choke to get it to idle around 2k > > > >> > rpms and went to > > > >> > suit up. The bike ran for a good couple of minutes > > > >> > and then > > > >> > suddenly shut off. I went over to it and hit the > > > >> > starter, but it > > > >> > wouldn't start again. I let it sit a minute or so > > > >> > and tried again. > > > >> > Same thing. Shut the choke off, opened the > > > >> > throttle, tried again. > > > >> > Nothing. Just the same steady turning over, but not > > > >> > catching at > > > >> > all. > > > >> > > > > >> > Desperate to get to work, and figuring that maybe it > > > >> > was just some > > > >> > crud in the fuel that would work itself out once the > > > >> > bike was > > > >> > running again, I tried bump starting it coasting > > > >> > down a hill. > > > >> > Wouldn't catch. > > > >> > > > > >> > The Clymer lists about 200 things to check. Hoping > > > >> > to prioritize > > > >> > that list based on the symptoms (and based on the > > > >> > fact that I have > > > >> > no warm garage to work in--only the yard). > > > >> > > > > >> > BTW, if it matters, last weekend I checked the > > > >> > battery and topped it > > > >> > off with distilled water. Rode the bike twice last > > > >> > week without > > > >> > incident, and yesterday without incident. This is > > > >> > the first > > > >> > mechanical trouble I've had in 3200 miles. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > > >> > www.dualsportnews.com > > > >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > >> > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> __________________________________ > > > >> Do you Yahoo!? > > > >> Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > > > >> http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >