digest number 5810

[Mike Peplinski]

Cutting through all the whining and such, this is the best eval I've seen. Now since we're straying a bit from a pro KLR format, how would one stack the Suzuki SV650 against these 2? What I expect to hear is that the SV is little more than a modern version of what we used to call a "scrambler". Remember the Honda and Yamaha street bikes with reinforced bars, upswept exhaust, tiny skid plate and knobbie tires?

>From: "Peter" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? >Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:09:20 -0000 > > > >I own both. You get what you pay for, is it worth it, that's a matter >of opinion. I think the F650GS is much more comfortable, with the >taller seat. It cruises at 90mph no problem, nice and smooth where >the KLR feels like it's giving it's all at that speed. The F650 is a >much smoother ride, you snick through the gears unlike banging >through them on the KLR. The KLR has more torque down low where you >need it in the dirt. I've ridden both on the same roads and trails >and think they're about equal off road. My KLR currently has a top >end oil leak so I've been on the BMW more and will probably sell the >KLR. I like to refer to the BMW as the KLR's more refined European >cousin. > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Michael Silverstein]

I hear that there may be a shootout of bikes that their manufacturers bill as adventure tourers in an upcoming "Motorcyclist" magazine. Don't know which issue or which models they will be comparing or under which conditions but its got to be better than yet another 600cc sportbike shootout.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Peplinski [mailto:motormind72@...] > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:45 AM > To: prmason59@...; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? > > > > Cutting through all the whining and such, this is the best > eval I've seen. > Now since we're straying a bit from a pro KLR format, how > would one stack > the Suzuki SV650 against these 2? What I expect to hear is > that the SV is > little more than a modern version of what we used to call a > "scrambler". > Remember the Honda and Yamaha street bikes with reinforced > bars, upswept > exhaust, tiny skid plate and knobbie tires? > > >From: "Peter" > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? > >Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:09:20 -0000 > > > > > > > >I own both. You get what you pay for, is it worth it, that's > a matter > >of opinion. I think the F650GS is much more comfortable, with the > >taller seat. It cruises at 90mph no problem, nice and smooth > where the > >KLR feels like it's giving it's all at that speed. The F650 > is a much > >smoother ride, you snick through the gears unlike banging > through them > >on the KLR. The KLR has more torque down low where you need > it in the > >dirt. I've ridden both on the same roads and trails and > think they're > >about equal off road. My KLR currently has a top end oil > leak so I've > >been on the BMW more and will probably sell the KLR. I like > to refer to > >the BMW as the KLR's more refined European cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 > >

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[Thomas J Komjathy]

Yeah, right on! I love my KiLleR Sis Fiddy, the sport bike boyz of the N. Ga. Mnts. hate it. They don't call it Duc hunting for nothing... TK

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Silverstein" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? > > I hear that there may be a shootout of bikes that their manufacturers > bill as adventure tourers in an upcoming "Motorcyclist" magazine. Don't > know which issue or which models they will be comparing or under which > conditions but its got to be better than yet another 600cc sportbike > shootout. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Peplinski [mailto:motormind72@...] > > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:45 AM > > To: prmason59@...; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? > > > > > > > > Cutting through all the whining and such, this is the best > > eval I've seen. > > Now since we're straying a bit from a pro KLR format, how > > would one stack > > the Suzuki SV650 against these 2? What I expect to hear is > > that the SV is > > little more than a modern version of what we used to call a > > "scrambler". > > Remember the Honda and Yamaha street bikes with reinforced > > bars, upswept > > exhaust, tiny skid plate and knobbie tires? > > > > >From: "Peter" > > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Ever compare F650GS to KLR650? > > >Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:09:20 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >I own both. You get what you pay for, is it worth it, that's > > a matter > > >of opinion. I think the F650GS is much more comfortable, with the > > >taller seat. It cruises at 90mph no problem, nice and smooth > > where the > > >KLR feels like it's giving it's all at that speed. The F650 > > is a much > > >smoother ride, you snick through the gears unlike banging > > through them > > >on the KLR. The KLR has more torque down low where you need > > it in the > > >dirt. I've ridden both on the same roads and trails and > > think they're > > >about equal off road. My KLR currently has a top end oil > > leak so I've > > >been on the BMW more and will probably sell the KLR. I like > > to refer to > > >the BMW as the KLR's more refined European cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Randy Shultz]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> Now since we're straying a bit from a pro KLR format, how would one

stack the Suzuki SV650 against these 2? --- I own both an SV650 and a KLR. They are not comparable at all, since the SV650 is a street-only bike. Perhaps you are thinking of the Suzuki DL650, which uses the SV650's V-twin engine? Even there I don't consider the DL650 a competitor to the KLR unless you aren't going to do any asphalt-free riding other than hard-pack dirt and gravel roads. Just my opinion. Randy

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/10/2004 11:19:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, rshultz@... writes: Perhaps you are thinking of the Suzuki DL650, which uses the SV650's V-twin engine? Even there I don't consider the DL650 a competitor to the KLR unless you aren't going to do any asphalt-free riding other than hard-pack dirt and gravel roads. Just my opinion. I put about 3000 miles on a DL 650 in Mexico in October, wonderful bike but the front plows like mad in anything loose or soft and the front header pipe limits clearance in anything rough. I think it is about the best all around street bike I have ridden in years but it is not close to being a dualsport IMHO. Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eric L. Green]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Randy Shultz wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > Now since we're straying a bit from a pro KLR format, how would one > stack the Suzuki SV650 against these 2? > --- > I own both an SV650 and a KLR. They are not comparable at all, since > the SV650 is a street-only bike. > > Perhaps you are thinking of the Suzuki DL650, which uses the SV650's > V-twin engine? Even there I don't consider the DL650 a competitor to

Or maybe he's thinking about a Suzuki DR650SE? My take on it: Has much of the goodness of the KLR (and extra simplicity and ruggedness of air cooling), but the seat is a disaster and the fuel tank disappointingly small, and it doesn't have the wide variety of farkle that the KLR has. It also has about the same amount of power as the KLR, so don't get your hopes up there. Still, it is definitely a viable choice over the KLR. It depends on your priorities -- I valued range and seat comfort over offroad ability, thus chose a KLR. If you are more dirt-oriented, a DR might be more your thing (though even a DR650 is a pig compared to a real dirt bike, like the DRX400). -E

[Joseph Jones]

Sounds good to me... How is the weather there, and when would be a good time?

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Kenn Clark" wrote: > I would be delighted to host a party at my house in Asheboro, NC. Just south > of Greensboro. large garage, left, air tools, all the stuff. Not an expert > mechanic but did my own doo hickey repair and other stuff successfully. > Camping space and spare bedrooms, plus the all important beer frig in the > garage. The Uwharrie forest is only minutes away... > > Kenn Clark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:06:20 -0000 > > From: "Joseph Jones" > > Subject: Dohickey /wrenching PARTAY .... KY TN VA NC SC GA > > > > > > I see posts from klr owners in each of these states. So are from less > > experienced some from more experienced owners. All have diffrent > > levels of knowledge on the KLR. > > I think it is time to have a party around here.(somewhere close > > enough for all to attend. Anyone have a garage big enough to work on > > three or four bikes at once? Anyone have the knowledge to do the > > fixes? Anyone interested in having a party? > >