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[Don Van Dyke]

Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard or did you exchange with Happy Trails? 1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine guard. Don Van Dyke Sacramento, California Moto@... www.intellection.org

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote:

> Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the > lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to > mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount > uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too > close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame. > > Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard > or did you exchange with Happy Trails? > > 1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing > to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine

guard. Should have bought the IMS tank instead.

[john@simmons.net]

Loosen the skid plate, mine didn't line up "04" but after loosening the skid plate it lined right up. Then tighten the skid plate back up.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Van Dyke" To: "DSN_klr650" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] PD Nerf Bars don't fit. > > Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, and the > lower engine guard portion does not fit. The engine guard is supposed to > mount onto the frame using the same bolt holes that the front engine mount > uses. However, the holes on the engine guard are clearly 1/8 inch too > close together, so they don't align with the holes in the frame. > > Has anyone else had this problem? If so, did you modify your engine guard > or did you exchange with Happy Trails? > > 1/8 inch error in both sides of the bracket would require a lot of filing > to remedy, and it would obviously compromise the paint on the engine guard. > > Don Van Dyke > Sacramento, California > Moto@... > www.intellection.org > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Randy Shultz]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote:

> Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR,

and the

> lower engine guard portion does not fit.

This was just recently discussed within the past 30 days or so, so if you search I think you'll find several relevant posts. Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank is plastic? I may be mistaken about that. Randy

[Alan L Henderson]

john@... wrote:

> Loosen the skid plate, mine didn't line up "04" but after loosening the > skid plate it lined right up. Then tighten the skid plate back up. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Van Dyke"

If that doesn't work call Tim at Happy Trails. I installed the same engine guard on my 99 and it fit quite well. I had to wiggle things around a bit but didn't have to do any modification. Alan Henderson

[Don Van Dyke]

In California plastic tanks are not street legal for reasons of air pollution. Enough of the gasoline in plastic tanks evaporates through the plastic to contribute significantly to air pollution. On the federal level, DOT does not approve plastic gas tanks for on-street use because they do not contain fuel as well in crashes. Metal is more resilient. I saw a metal tank on a Triumph cave in after a crash, and then regain most of its shape by itself soon after the bike was righted. I was surprised. As I remember the postings about a month ago on the nerf bars, they had more to do with the way the bars fit at the top, and how they touched the fork at full lock, which seemed relatively minor to me. In my case, I can't even get the bars mounted on the bike because of the engine guard fit, or lack there of. (FYI for listers not familiar with the bars, the bars attach to an engine guard. If the engine guard can't be mounted, the nerf bars can't be mounted.) I'll try calling Mike at Happy Trails this morning. At 03:11 PM 12/9/2004 +0000, Randy Shultz wrote:

>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Van Dyke wrote: > > Tonight I tried installing Happy Trails PD Nerf Bars on my 05 KLR, >and the > > lower engine guard portion does not fit. > > >This was just recently discussed within the past 30 days or so, so if >you search I think you'll find several relevant posts. > >Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he >should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on >my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look >great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere >near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And >aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state >plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at >the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How >do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank >is plastic? I may be mistaken about that. > >Randy > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Don Van Dyke Sacramento, California Moto@... www.intellection.org

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Randy Shultz wrote:

> near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And > aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state > plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at > the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How > do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank > is plastic?

Cops don't exactly go around looking for motorcycles with plastic tanks to ticket. All they care about is that your license plate is up to date and you don't drive crazy. If I ever move to a state that does emissions inspections of motorcycles, I'll temporarily put the metal tank back on. -E

[Gregory Roberts]

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Randy Shultz"

>Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he >should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on >my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look >great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere >near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And >aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state >plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at >the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How >do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank >is plastic? I may be mistaken about that. > >Randy

Randy, If all plastic tanks are unlawful in your state, then in addition to several of the BMWs (K1200LT, K1200RS, R1150RT), the KTM Adventure 950, and a good many automobiles (VW Golf) are unlawful. If you are in California or certain other smog states the IMS tank migh tbe unlawful because it doesn't support vapor recovery, but the problem isn't that the tank is made of plastic. Greg Roberts ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at netcommander.com

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/9/04 7:12:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, rshultz@... writes:

> Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he > should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on > my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look > great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere > near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And > aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state > plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at > the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How > do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank > is plastic? I may be mistaken about that.

I have had hard crashes on both sides that left some good scrapes on the tank but have had no damage to the radiator or anything else. Others have made negative comments about the mounting tabs but I think they are just fine and obviously they have worked well for me. Can't address the legal part but it was my impression that those anti-plastic laws were federal and have been changed. Aren't some KTM and others supplies with plastic tanks? Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 11:47 AM -0500 12/9/04, Krgrife@... wrote:

>In a message dated 12/9/04 7:12:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, >rshultz@... writes: > > >> Just curious about the comment from the poster who said that he >> should have bought an IMS tank instead. I have PD Nerf Bars on >> my '04 and love them. I haveseen the IMS tank and I think they look >> great as well, but it's diffulcult to imagine that tank is anywhere >> near as protective as the PD Nerf Bars. Isn't the tank plastic? And >> aren't the shrouds less protective than the Nerf Bars? In my state >> plastic gas tanks aren't street legal, or that's what I was told at >> the DMV. I assume this isn't the only state that has that rule. How >> do you folks with IMS tanks get around that, assuming that the tank >> is plastic? I may be mistaken about that. > >I have had hard crashes on both sides that left some good scrapes on the tank >but have had no damage to the radiator or anything else. Others have made >negative comments about the mounting tabs but I think they are just fine and >obviously they have worked well for me. Can't address the legal >part but it was >my impression that those anti-plastic laws were federal and have been changed. > Aren't some KTM and others supplies with plastic tanks? >Kurt Grife

I dunno, but my 1980 SAAB 99GLi had a plastic tank, as did all of my 900s. Mark