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[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... wrote:

> > Never heard him lay into any addicts, can you back that up? >

I have, and I hardly listen to him. It takes a lot of nerve to ask anybody to back up anything they say about Rush. He can't back up most of his own BUllSHit.

[ron criswell]

I think synthetic oil is a liberal plot against Haliburton. Criswell Stuart Mumford wrote:

> Wow! Gun and polical threads on the same day! > Will someone please start a jihad about oil and complete the trifecta! > > Cheers > CA Stu > > -----Original Message----- > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured Europe. You have a > > lovely Continent, and the people couldn't be nicer! I wish nothing > > but the best to you and yours. With that in mind, I hope you're > > never in a situation where you have to say "If only I'd been able to > > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to carry a weapon? The > > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a strange person, and my > > life doesn't revolve around firearms. I think we would get along > > just fine! : ) > > ~Eric S. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio Trucco" > > wrote: > > > And why in this world should you wish to carry a sidearm with you, > > is > > > -among many other things- way beyond my understanding... > > > This is one of those things were European and Americans really > > don't mix > > > together. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. In California, unless > > you > > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can not have a loaded > > pistol in > > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a m/c). It has to be > > > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but not in a glove > > compartment. > > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in rural areas, but not > > in > > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon is prohibited. The AZ > > > concealed carry permit (or any other) is not recognized in Calf. > > Have > > > fun. Pete Chester A16 PS the AZ web site on CCW permits lists the > > > states that reseprocate with AZ. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" wrote: > > > > > > > > I assume that California gun laws are still such that I > > shouldn't wear > > > > > > > my sidearm when I ride out there..? > > > > ~Eric (AZ) > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Kelly Walsh]

Yup. It's a big left wing conspiracy. I actually throw whole packs of McDonald's fries into the KLR and get over 200 miles to the gallon. Runs a bit rough but what the hell, I smell like fries, and that gets the ladies. Kelly Walsh Santa Fe, NM (where the fries flow like manna from heaven) --- ron criswell wrote:

> > I think synthetic oil is a liberal plot against > Haliburton. > > Criswell > > Stuart Mumford wrote: > > > Wow! Gun and polical threads on the same day! > > Will someone please start a jihad about oil and > complete the trifecta! > > > > Cheers > > CA Stu shoulders) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured > Europe. You have a > > > lovely Continent, and the people couldn't be > nicer! I wish nothing > > > but the best to you and yours. With that in > mind, I hope you're > > > never in a situation where you have to say "If > only I'd been able to > > > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to > carry a weapon? The > > > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a > strange person, and my > > > life doesn't revolve around firearms. I think > we would get along > > > just fine! : ) > > > ~Eric S. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio > Trucco" > > > wrote: > > > > And why in this world should you wish to carry > a sidearm with you, > > > is > > > > -among many other things- way beyond my > understanding... > > > > This is one of those things were European and > Americans really > > > don't mix > > > > together. > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. > In California, unless > > > you > > > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can > not have a loaded > > > pistol in > > > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a > m/c). It has to be > > > > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but > not in a glove > > > compartment. > > > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in > rural areas, but not > > > in > > > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon > is prohibited. The AZ > > > > concealed carry permit (or any other) is not > recognized in Calf. > > > Have > > > > fun. Pete Chester A16 PS the AZ web site on > CCW permits lists the > > > > states that reseprocate with AZ. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I assume that California gun laws are still > such that I > > > shouldn't wear > > > > > > > > > my sidearm when I ride out there..? > > > > > ~Eric (AZ) > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

[ron criswell]

A bunch of peasants armed with AK 47's, some rockets and mortars sure did a number on the United States 30 years ago. With all our B -52's, fighter planes, high tech weapons and Navy we did not conquer them or change their minds. The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto armed with almost nothing certainly got the attention of the might of the Nazi's as did Tito's guerillas in Yugoslavia. I think determined people with sufficient arms can sure put up one hell of a fight to even a well armed larger force. Chairman Mao certainly wrote the book on this type of war fare. Knowing all of this does make me nervous as to the present situation in Iraq. But I believe we are at war with radical Islam and I don't think peaceful negotiation will work with religious fanatics. The Jews before and during World War ll had no weapons and look what happened to them. I would imagine the survivors of all that ....... ethnic cleansing ............ may be well armed today. Israel is certainly well armed today wouldn't you say. Europe is a nice place today. I have been there on 4 separate trips. I hope it stays that way. 3 of my uncles fought in WW2. One died, one was in a POW camp for a couple of years, the other one came back unscathed. Had armed resistance started when Hitler first came to power or had the French attacked when Hitler left his whole western flank open while he had his way with Poland, we would all have a merrier Christmas. I don't want to sacrifice any more of my family in Europe because people don't want to stand up to dictators or oppression until it is to late. I have seen one Michael Moore movie (Roger and me) and I won't see any of his latest. It is pretty easy to be a hatchet man. Criswell Giorgio Trucco wrote:

> Eric, > I'm not concerned about getting along with you. > I know this is a controversial issue and people get flamed pretty > easily. > But being a foreigner in this country I like to discuss the cultural > differences. > I can do this without problems, respecting others even if they have a > different opinion. > > And of course we have a different opinion here. > > I really don't see the link with the Second World War, mentioned before > by Criswell, unless he thinks that people in Europe could have protected > themselves from Hitler and Mussolini by carrying a gun, which to me > seems very naive. > > There are bad people in any country of this world, including ALL the > European countries. > But modern countries try to deal with "bad people" at a higher level > than just personal protection. Education, social reforms, politics, > economy work together to remove the causes of social deviation. > This has proved over the decades to be much more effective than having > an army of gunned citizens shooting at everything that moves and looks > suspicious. > There will always be situations where you wished you could have defended > your family. > I've seen this in my country too, where entire families have been killed > in their houses at night by robbers. > But as hard as it is to realize it, these are cases that carry no > statistical significance. > If the answer is to have a gun in each house, the number of good fathers > killed by kids who managed to reach the gun will be much larger than the > people who actually died in a situation where they could have defended > themselves by mean of an arm. > Do you know how many people die in this country each year, due to the > lack of a strict gun control? They are many, many, many more than the > ones who would die because they didn't have a gun. > > So it's just a simple question: what type of society do you wish to live > in? > I personally accept the little risk of finding myself unarmed before an > armed bad guy, rather than living in a society where all the people are > free to carry a gun, which to me is way more dangerous. Not to mention > the risk of my hypothetical 12 years boy playing with the gun of his > friend's father. > > Regardless of your political orientation, I suggest you watch Michael > Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". > > See you in Julian, my friend. > > You bring the gun (maybe), I bring the wine!! > Let's see who will stand up the last. > > > Giorgio > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric [mailto:krayneeum@...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:38 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws /WHY CARRY??? > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured Europe. You have a lovely > Continent, and the people couldn't be nicer! I wish nothing but the > best to you and yours. With that in mind, I hope you're never in a > situation where you have to say "If only I'd been able to > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to carry a weapon? The > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a strange person, and my life > doesn't revolve around firearms. I think we would get along just fine! > : ) > ~Eric S. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio Trucco" > wrote: > > And why in this world should you wish to carry a sidearm with you, > is > > -among many other things- way beyond my understanding... > > This is one of those things were European and Americans really > don't mix > > together. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete88chester [mailto:ppchester@f...] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:00 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws/Julian DH party...? > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. In California, unless > you > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can not have a loaded > pistol in > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a m/c). It has to be > > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but not in a glove > compartment. > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in rural areas, but not > in > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon is prohibited. The AZ > > concealed carry permit (or any other) is not recognized in Calf. > Have > > fun. Pete Chester A16 PS the AZ web site on CCW permits lists the > > states that reseprocate with AZ. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" wrote: > > > > > > I assume that California gun laws are still such that I > shouldn't wear > > > > > my sidearm when I ride out there..? > > > ~Eric (AZ) > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by > > sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by > sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Kelly Walsh]

"But I believe we are at war with radical Islam and I don't think peaceful negotiation will work with religious fanatics." I agree with you 100% on this. However, it won't be long before they bring the guerilla warfare to our soil. 9/11 was just the first volley. It will not get any better. We can't overtake a religion, ANY religion with force. The only solution is the killer asteroid looming in the distance. --- ron criswell wrote:

> > A bunch of peasants armed with AK 47's, some rockets > and mortars sure did a number on the United States > 30 years ago. With all > our B -52's, fighter planes, high tech weapons and > Navy we did not conquer them or change their minds. > > The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto armed with almost > nothing certainly got the attention of the might of > the Nazi's as did Tito's > guerillas in Yugoslavia. I think determined people > with sufficient arms can sure put up one hell of a > fight to even a well armed > larger force. Chairman Mao certainly wrote the book > on this type of war fare. Knowing all of this does > make me nervous as to the > present situation in Iraq. But I believe we are at > war with radical Islam and I don't think peaceful > negotiation will work with > religious fanatics. > > The Jews before and during World War ll had no > weapons and look what happened to them. I would > imagine the survivors of all that > ....... ethnic cleansing ............ may be well > armed today. Israel is certainly well armed today > wouldn't you say. > > Europe is a nice place today. I have been there on 4 > separate trips. I hope it stays that way. 3 of my > uncles fought in WW2. One > died, one was in a POW camp for a couple of years, > the other one came back unscathed. Had armed > resistance started when Hitler > first came to power or had the French attacked when > Hitler left his whole western flank open while he > had his way with Poland, > we would all have a merrier Christmas. I don't want > to sacrifice any more of my family in Europe because > people don't want to > stand up to dictators or oppression until it is to > late. > > I have seen one Michael Moore movie (Roger and me) > and I won't see any of his latest. It is pretty easy > to be a hatchet man. > > Criswell > > Giorgio Trucco wrote: > > > Eric, > > I'm not concerned about getting along with you. > > I know this is a controversial issue and people > get flamed pretty > > easily. > > But being a foreigner in this country I like to > discuss the cultural > > differences. > > I can do this without problems, respecting others > even if they have a > > different opinion. > > > > And of course we have a different opinion here. > > > > I really don't see the link with the Second World > War, mentioned before > > by Criswell, unless he thinks that people in > Europe could have protected > > themselves from Hitler and Mussolini by carrying a > gun, which to me > > seems very naive. > > > > There are bad people in any country of this world, > including ALL the > > European countries. > > But modern countries try to deal with "bad people" > at a higher level > > than just personal protection. Education, social > reforms, politics, > > economy work together to remove the causes of > social deviation. > > This has proved over the decades to be much more > effective than having > > an army of gunned citizens shooting at everything > that moves and looks > > suspicious. > > There will always be situations where you wished > you could have defended > > your family. > > I've seen this in my country too, where entire > families have been killed > > in their houses at night by robbers. > > But as hard as it is to realize it, these are > cases that carry no > > statistical significance. > > If the answer is to have a gun in each house, the > number of good fathers > > killed by kids who managed to reach the gun will > be much larger than the > > people who actually died in a situation where they > could have defended > > themselves by mean of an arm. > > Do you know how many people die in this country > each year, due to the > > lack of a strict gun control? They are many, many, > many more than the > > ones who would die because they didn't have a gun. > > > > So it's just a simple question: what type of > society do you wish to live > > in? > > I personally accept the little risk of finding > myself unarmed before an > > armed bad guy, rather than living in a society > where all the people are > > free to carry a gun, which to me is way more > dangerous. Not to mention > > the risk of my hypothetical 12 years boy playing > with the gun of his > > friend's father. > > > > Regardless of your political orientation, I > suggest you watch Michael > > Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". > > > > See you in Julian, my friend. > > > > You bring the gun (maybe), I bring the wine!! > > Let's see who will stand up the last. > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric [mailto:krayneeum@...] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:38 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws /WHY > CARRY??? > > > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured > Europe. You have a lovely > > Continent, and the people couldn't be nicer! I > wish nothing but the > > best to you and yours. With that in mind, I hope > you're never in a > > situation where you have to say "If only I'd been > able to > > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to carry > a weapon? The > > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a > strange person, and my life > > doesn't revolve around firearms. I think we would > get along just fine! > > : ) > > ~Eric S. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio > Trucco" > > wrote: > > > And why in this world should you wish to carry a > sidearm with you, > > is > > > -among many other things- way beyond my > understanding... > > > This is one of those things were European and > Americans really > > don't mix > > > together. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pete88chester [mailto:ppchester@f...] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:00 PM > > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun > laws/Julian DH party...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. In > California, unless > > you > > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can not > have a loaded > > pistol in > > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a > m/c). It has to be > > > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but not > in a glove > > compartment. > > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in > rural areas, but not > > in > > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon is > prohibited. The AZ > > > concealed carry permit (or any other) is not > recognized in Calf. > > Have > > > fun. Pete Chester A16 PS the AZ web site on > CCW permits lists the > > > states that reseprocate with AZ. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" > wrote: > > > > > > > > I assume that California gun laws are still > such that I > > shouldn't wear > > > > > > > my sidearm when I ride out there..? > > > > ~Eric (AZ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List > > FAQ > > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by > > > sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by > > sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. 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[Eric L. Green]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kelly Walsh wrote:

> "But I believe we are at war with radical > Islam and I don't think peaceful negotiation will work > with > religious fanatics." > > I agree with you 100% on this.

Which is why Pastor General Ashcroft scares the bejeezus out of me. Peaceful negotiation doesn't work with religious fanatics. Next thing you know, he's gonna be demanding that I renounce my evil statue-worshipping Papist faith and join the One True Church (Pentecostal) or else I'm an enemy combatant.... Anybody know a good firing range in the South SF Bay area where I can take my shotgun and fire off a couple boxes of shells to get reacquainted with my weapon of choice? In particular, putting multiple shots into a target is an art with this guy (classic B.F. Mossberg 12 ga. 5 shot pump circa 1964), since it kicks like a mule and rides upwards, meaning you have to wait for it to fall back down on target before squeezing off the next shot. I used to be pretty good at it, able to make a plastic jug dance across my back pasture, but, alas, haven't had much time to practice since I left Louisiana... - Eric the Libertarian Gun Owner

[Devon]

denis@... wrote:

>Never heard him lay into any addicts, can you back that up? > >

16 Dec 1994 On his daily radio show, conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh declares: "We have alcoholics and drug addicts in our society, don't we? And what do we say about them? 'Well, they can't help it. Why, it's genetic. Why, they have a disease. Why, put one thimbleful of scotch in front of them and they can die.' We totally exempt them from any control over their lives, do we not? Some athlete will spend two years snorting lines of coke. 'He can't help it. You know, it's -- it's just -- it's not -- it's -- it's genetic. These people -- they're predisposed to having this addictive syndrome. They -- they can't help.' Yeah, like that line of cocaine just happened to march into the hotel, go up to the athlete's room and put itself right there in front of him on his blotter." 5 Oct 1995 "What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too." 2 Oct 2003 Reports surface that Limbaugh is being investigated by the Florida State Attorney General's office in Palm Beach County, for his abuse of Oxycontin, Lorcet and hydrocodone prescription painkillers. The source for the story is Wilma Cline, a former housekeeper and also alleged source of the drugs. She claims to have obtained Limbaugh 4,350 pills over a 47 day period. An unnamed source at the State Attorney's office confirmed the story to the New York Daily News. I like the "too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff" part, man did he get that part right. Devon

[Eric]

Do you have an issue with the fact that people can carry guns? Or is it just something that you don't choose to do and don't understand why other people do? I don't want to get into gun issues to deep on this board, simply because that's not why we're here. And I DEFINATELY am not going to discuss Mr. Moore's films... Good times though, 'eh? : ) See you in Julian! ~Eric S. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio Trucco" wrote:

> Eric, > I'm not concerned about getting along with you. > I know this is a controversial issue and people get flamed pretty > easily. > But being a foreigner in this country I like to discuss the cultural > differences. > I can do this without problems, respecting others even if they have

a

> different opinion. > > And of course we have a different opinion here. > > I really don't see the link with the Second World War, mentioned

before

> by Criswell, unless he thinks that people in Europe could have

protected

> themselves from Hitler and Mussolini by carrying a gun, which to me > seems very naive. > > There are bad people in any country of this world, including ALL the > European countries. > But modern countries try to deal with "bad people" at a higher level > than just personal protection. Education, social reforms, politics, > economy work together to remove the causes of social deviation. > This has proved over the decades to be much more effective than

having

> an army of gunned citizens shooting at everything that moves and

looks

> suspicious. > There will always be situations where you wished you could have

defended

> your family. > I've seen this in my country too, where entire families have been

killed

> in their houses at night by robbers. > But as hard as it is to realize it, these are cases that carry no > statistical significance. > If the answer is to have a gun in each house, the number of good

fathers

> killed by kids who managed to reach the gun will be much larger

than the

> people who actually died in a situation where they could have

defended

> themselves by mean of an arm. > Do you know how many people die in this country each year, due to

the

> lack of a strict gun control? They are many, many, many more than

the

> ones who would die because they didn't have a gun. > > So it's just a simple question: what type of society do you wish to

live

> in? > I personally accept the little risk of finding myself unarmed

before an

> armed bad guy, rather than living in a society where all the people

are

> free to carry a gun, which to me is way more dangerous. Not to

mention

> the risk of my hypothetical 12 years boy playing with the gun of his > friend's father. > > Regardless of your political orientation, I suggest you watch

Michael

> Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". > > See you in Julian, my friend. > > You bring the gun (maybe), I bring the wine!! > Let's see who will stand up the last. > > > Giorgio > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric [mailto:krayneeum@h...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:38 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws /WHY CARRY??? > > > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured Europe. You have a

lovely

> Continent, and the people couldn't be nicer! I wish nothing but the > best to you and yours. With that in mind, I hope you're never in a > situation where you have to say "If only I'd been able to > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to carry a weapon? The > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a strange person, and my

life

> doesn't revolve around firearms. I think we would get along just

fine!

> : ) > ~Eric S. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio Trucco" > wrote: > > And why in this world should you wish to carry a sidearm with you, > is > > -among many other things- way beyond my understanding... > > This is one of those things were European and Americans really > don't mix > > together. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete88chester [mailto:ppchester@f...] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:00 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws/Julian DH party...? > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. In California, unless > you > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can not have a loaded > pistol in > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a m/c). It has to

be

> > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but not in a glove > compartment. > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in rural areas, but not > in > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon is prohibited. The

AZ

> > concealed carry permit (or any other) is not recognized in Calf. > Have > > fun. Pete Chester A16 PS the AZ web site on CCW permits lists

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I'm sorry... I didn't mean to start a battle with anyone here.... ~Eric S.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote: > denis@t... wrote: > > >Never heard him lay into any addicts, can you back that up? > > > > > 16 Dec 1994 On his daily radio show, conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh > declares: "We have alcoholics and drug addicts in our society, don't we? > And what do we say about them? 'Well, they can't help it. Why, it's > genetic. Why, they have a disease. Why, put one thimbleful of scotch in > front of them and they can die.' We totally exempt them from any control > over their lives, do we not? Some athlete will spend two years snorting > lines of coke. 'He can't help it. You know, it's -- it's just -- it's > not -- it's -- it's genetic. These people -- they're predisposed to > having this addictive syndrome. They -- they can't help.' Yeah, like > that line of cocaine just happened to march into the hotel, go up to the > athlete's room and put itself right there in front of him on his blotter." > > 5 Oct 1995 "What this says to me is that too many whites are getting > away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. > Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The > answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail > because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The > answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, > convict them and send them up the river, too." > > 2 Oct 2003 Reports surface that Limbaugh is being investigated by the > Florida State Attorney General's office in Palm Beach County, for his > abuse of Oxycontin, Lorcet and hydrocodone prescription painkillers. The > source for the story is Wilma Cline, a former housekeeper and also > alleged source of the drugs. She claims to have obtained Limbaugh 4,350 > pills over a 47 day period. An unnamed source at the State Attorney's > office confirmed the story to the New York Daily News. > > > I like the "too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this > stuff" part, man did he get that part right. > > Devon

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The very fact that no other country has ever come ashore since the revolutionary war is testament to why we should carry arms. Woe be to ye who come to this nation to do harm to it's people. For from every mount, and ever village shall come such a volley as you will never imagine. Freedom is not free, it is earned.Many European Nations would benefit from this knowledge. That a child should perish as a result of playing with a handgun is much akin to the same child finding a can of gasoline. Both in the hands of the ignorant, are equally as dangerous, in fact the gasoline being far more deadly. --- Eric wrote:

> > > Do you have an issue with the fact that people can > carry guns? Or is > it just something that you don't choose to do and > don't understand > why other people do? I don't want to get into gun > issues to deep on > this board, simply because that's not why we're > here. And I > DEFINATELY am not going to discuss Mr. Moore's > films... > Good times though, 'eh? : ) See you in > Julian! > ~Eric S. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio Trucco" > > wrote: > > Eric, > > I'm not concerned about getting along with you. > > I know this is a controversial issue and people > get flamed pretty > > easily. > > But being a foreigner in this country I like to > discuss the cultural > > differences. > > I can do this without problems, respecting others > even if they have > a > > different opinion. > > > > And of course we have a different opinion here. > > > > I really don't see the link with the Second World > War, mentioned > before > > by Criswell, unless he thinks that people in > Europe could have > protected > > themselves from Hitler and Mussolini by carrying a > gun, which to me > > seems very naive. > > > > There are bad people in any country of this world, > including ALL the > > European countries. > > But modern countries try to deal with "bad people" > at a higher level > > than just personal protection. Education, social > reforms, politics, > > economy work together to remove the causes of > social deviation. > > This has proved over the decades to be much more > effective than > having > > an army of gunned citizens shooting at everything > that moves and > looks > > suspicious. > > There will always be situations where you wished > you could have > defended > > your family. > > I've seen this in my country too, where entire > families have been > killed > > in their houses at night by robbers. > > But as hard as it is to realize it, these are > cases that carry no > > statistical significance. > > If the answer is to have a gun in each house, the > number of good > fathers > > killed by kids who managed to reach the gun will > be much larger > than the > > people who actually died in a situation where they > could have > defended > > themselves by mean of an arm. > > Do you know how many people die in this country > each year, due to > the > > lack of a strict gun control? They are many, many, > many more than > the > > ones who would die because they didn't have a gun. > > > > So it's just a simple question: what type of > society do you wish to > live > > in? > > I personally accept the little risk of finding > myself unarmed > before an > > armed bad guy, rather than living in a society > where all the people > are > > free to carry a gun, which to me is way more > dangerous. Not to > mention > > the risk of my hypothetical 12 years boy playing > with the gun of his > > friend's father. > > > > Regardless of your political orientation, I > suggest you watch > Michael > > Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". > > > > See you in Julian, my friend. > > > > You bring the gun (maybe), I bring the wine!! > > Let's see who will stand up the last. > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric [mailto:krayneeum@h...] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:38 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun laws /WHY > CARRY??? > > > > > > > > Giorgio- I have lived in Germany and toured > Europe. You have a > lovely > > Continent, and the people couldn't be nicer! I > wish nothing but the > > best to you and yours. With that in mind, I hope > you're never in a > > situation where you have to say "If only I'd been > able to > > defend my family..." Why would I prefer to carry > a weapon? The > > short answer is "Because I can." I'm not a > strange person, and my > life > > doesn't revolve around firearms. I think we would > get along just > fine! > > : ) > > ~Eric S. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Giorgio > Trucco" > > wrote: > > > And why in this world should you wish to carry a > sidearm with you, > > is > > > -among many other things- way beyond my > understanding... > > > This is one of those things were European and > Americans really > > don't mix > > > together. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > Giorgio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pete88chester [mailto:ppchester@f...] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:00 PM > > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR CA gun > laws/Julian DH party...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric: I have a book on state firearm laws. In > California, unless > > you > > > have a Calf. concealed carry permit you can not > have a loaded > > pistol in > > > a vehical (I imagine that also applies to on a > m/c). It has to > be > > > unloaded & locked in a box or the trunk, but not > in a glove > > compartment. > > > You can have it in a holster in plain view in > rural areas, but not > > in > > > public areas where the discharge of a weapon is > prohibited.

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