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[Rico]

About 10K miles ago, I installed a new DID x-ring chain and got a set of sprockets to go with it. Unfortunately the new countersprocket didn't work with the retainer plate on my '91 bike. Rather than buy another sprocket that would work, I just reused the old one. In retrospect that was probably not such a good idea. I was giving my bike a once-over the other day and noticed that both the sprockets have a pretty good amount of wear on them. They've got a sort of wave shape to them. Also, it looks like the metal on the face of the tooth has been pushed up into a flake on each tip. There's also evidence that the side parts of the links has worn into the sprocket somewhat. I would imagine that improper alignment may be at fault for that in particular. However I can't explain the flakes of metal on the tips. The chain appears to be in good shape. The length is still good and there doesn't seem to be anything else wrong with it... Assuming my chain is in reasonable shape, Is it ok to change the sprockets and keep the same chain?

[dirtrooster2003]

The best rule to go by is to replace both sprockets and chain at same time. Worn sprockets and new chain will wear out chain faster and new chain with worn sprockets will cause sprokets to wear out faster. A chain with 10K mi on it has stretched some and will wear new sprockets faster and cause the chain to wear faster also. I would bite the bullet and replace all and keep the old chain for spare links just in case.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Rico" wrote: > About 10K miles ago, I installed a new DID x-ring chain and got a > set of sprockets to go with it. Unfortunately the new > countersprocket didn't work with the retainer plate on my '91 bike. > Rather than buy another sprocket that would work, I just reused the > old one. In retrospect that was probably not such a good idea. > > I was giving my bike a once-over the other day and noticed that both > the sprockets have a pretty good amount of wear on them. They've got > a sort of wave shape to them. Also, it looks like the metal on the > face of the tooth has been pushed up into a flake on each tip. > There's also evidence that the side parts of the links has worn into > the sprocket somewhat. I would imagine that improper alignment may > be at fault for that in particular. However I can't explain the > flakes of metal on the tips. > > The chain appears to be in good shape. The length is still good and > there doesn't seem to be anything else wrong with it... > > Assuming my chain is in reasonable shape, Is it ok to change the > sprockets and keep the same chain?

[klr6501995]

I always figure 3 new front sprockets for every chain and rear sprocket. Kawis oem rear sprocket is very durable. As soon as the rear sprocket is worn and sharp or hooked it is time for 3 new sprockets chain and rear sprocket. I like switching the front sprocket between 14,15,16 tooth. My habit seems to wear the front's down in this order, 14, 16 ,15. So with fresh setup I have a really peppy bike, then I get tired of the highway buzz and mpg. Then about when it is worn I switch to 16 for the mpg and highway revs. When it wears I put the 15 on and the bike is peppy again but w/ fuel economy. about 25000 miles total. the front sprocket is what kills the chain and rear sprocket the fastest.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Rico" wrote: > About 10K miles ago, I installed a new DID x-ring chain and got a > set of sprockets to go with it. Unfortunately the new > countersprocket didn't work with the retainer plate on my '91 bike. > Rather than buy another sprocket that would work, I just reused the > old one. In retrospect that was probably not such a good idea. > > I was giving my bike a once-over the other day and noticed that both > the sprockets have a pretty good amount of wear on them. They've got > a sort of wave shape to them. Also, it looks like the metal on the > face of the tooth has been pushed up into a flake on each tip. > There's also evidence that the side parts of the links has worn into > the sprocket somewhat. I would imagine that improper alignment may > be at fault for that in particular. However I can't explain the > flakes of metal on the tips. > > The chain appears to be in good shape. The length is still good and > there doesn't seem to be anything else wrong with it... > > Assuming my chain is in reasonable shape, Is it ok to change the > sprockets and keep the same chain?

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Rico" wrote:

> About 10K miles ago, I installed a new DID x-ring chain and got a > set of sprockets to go with it. Unfortunately the new > countersprocket didn't work with the retainer plate on my '91 bike. > Rather than buy another sprocket that would work, I just reused the > old one. In retrospect that was probably not such a good idea.

Your right, that was NOT the thing to do with such an awesome and expensive chain.

> > I was giving my bike a once-over the other day and noticed that

both

> the sprockets have a pretty good amount of wear on them. They've

got

> a sort of wave shape to them. Also, it looks like the metal on the > face of the tooth has been pushed up into a flake on each tip. > There's also evidence that the side parts of the links has worn

into

> the sprocket somewhat. I would imagine that improper alignment may > be at fault for that in particular. However I can't explain the > flakes of metal on the tips.

Learn to give your chain and sprockets the "once over" at least every week. Come on now, it's not that hard.

> > The chain appears to be in good shape. The length is still good and > there doesn't seem to be anything else wrong with it... > > Assuming my chain is in reasonable shape, Is it ok to change the > sprockets and keep the same chain?

Yes, that's what I would do. But make sure your chain is in "reasonably" good shape. How many times have you had to adjust it in the ten thousand miles that you have put on it? Take it off and see how bad the arc is. (when you lay it on the floor, on its side, see how close both ends will come together) My DID X ring chain has 7000 miles on it (no chain lube) and I have adjusted it once.......and I'm hard on chains. I'm using Sunstar sprockets that I got from Fred and they rock. I don't believe in this "replace chain and sprockets" stuff. It's a good idea to start out with that when you can but if like in your case you have a good expensive chain on there and the sprockets go bad, only the rich are going to throw the chain away. It's a KLR with 36 HP at best, not a GSXR with 130 HP. I had a $97 alluminum rear sprocket on my bike that saw 2 different (semi good) front sprockets switched back and forth and 5 cheap chains on it for 21,500 before it went bad. But I checked it every week, kept it lubed, and had it adjusted correctly, both the slack and the alignment. Don't get me wrong here, I do believe that one part going bad will wear out the other more quickly, BUT replacing the bad part with new stuff stops that excellerated wear too. You just need to check it often to catch it soon. I have also learned that to have everything wear uniformly as possible you should have the same quality stuff. If you buy cheap ass sprockets and an expensive chain, your going to see your sprockets get ugly way before the life of your chain. (as in your case) On the other hand if you get cheap ass chains and put it on good sprockets, you'll be changing your chain alot more often. (as in my case) Now I am very happy with my DID X-ring chain and Sunstar sprockets from Fred at Arrowhead. It's all really good stuff that will last a long time and I'm having to do almost nothing to it. MrMoose

[denis@teachlinux.com]

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