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[motorcycle_guy2004]

Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-go kit on my FJR). tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc. Imagine a trip with 70% street, 30% dirt/gravel as an example, with somewhat limited cargo space. What's the bare minimum I should take (besides an "I'm stuck on the road, come rescue me" plan)? Thanks in advance for your thoughtful and creative replies. They need not be politically correct. -Tom '00 KLR 650 '04 FJR 1300

[nakedwaterskier]

at min. slime your tires with that slime stuff(usually green) that auto fixes small punctures.

[dumbazz650]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "motorcycle_guy2004" wrote:

> Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... > > What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the > road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-go > kit on my FJR). > > tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc. > > Imagine a trip with 70% street, 30% dirt/gravel as an example, with > somewhat limited cargo space. What's the bare minimum I should take > (besides an "I'm stuck on the road, come rescue me" plan)? >

I carry a mountain bike pump, a patch kit, and two 9in aluminum tire irons. Also the necessary wrenches to remove either wheel. Sometimes also include the MotionPro jack-stick, but that depends on having the space and load available. I replace the patch kit every year as the glue dries out in the tube, even if it's unopened. I usually run the HD or ultra heavy duty tubes. They have more mass and may change the bikes otherwise nimble behavior, but more than once I've bounced through rock gardens at ridiculous speeds without a flat. In fact never had a flat in about the last 30,000 miles, knock on wood. As a kid who grew up fixing flats in bicycle tires and later his own cycle tires, even stubborn TKCs and Gripsters will eventually yield to persistence and ingenuity, as in balancing the bike on the kickstand while using said kickstand to break the bead on the back tire, after much sweating and cussing and dropping of the bike. Ah, the joys of solo travel. HTH, MarkB

[Krgrife@aol.com]

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "motorcycle_guy2004" > wrote: > > Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... > > > > What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the > > road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-go > > kit on my FJR). >

This is an area where I'm pretty conservative since I'm often in places where I must be self sufficient. I carry three of the little tire irons, a spare front tube in a Moose front fender pouch and a spare rear tube in my saddle bag and a patch kit as well. I have a small 12 volt compressor (WalMart $10.00 one stripped of all the plastic) to get enough pressure to set the bead and also have a small hand pump for back up. I also have a small bottle of tire lube which can make the whole process much easier. It may seem a lot to carry but I have learned the hard way that it having a flat and not being able to repair it when you're 50 miles from nowhere can ruin your day. Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Krgrife@a... wrote: It may seem a lot to carry but > I have learned the hard way that it having a flat and not being able to > repair it when you're 50 miles from nowhere can ruin your day. > Kurt Grife True words Kurt. I carry basically what tools Mark B listed. I carried a full set of spare tubes around on every trip for years until one day while pulling out of the Yuba River canyon I noticed the bike steering oddly. Sure enough, a flat. I was down in the bottom of the canyon. While it was quite hot there, and I had just gotten out of the hospital and didn't feel full strength, it sure was a whole lot better fixing the tire than being stuck down there and forced to walk out. It was a long long way up the canyon to the nearest paved road, then another 30 or 40 miles to any kind of populated area. I was sure glad I had that rear tube with me that day.

[motorcycle_guy2004]

Thanks for the tips so far! Suggestions on a good online resource to order-up tire irons & patch kits? (already have the wrenches, spare tubes f&r, 12v pump, etc.) Love the mental image of wrestling the bike around perform the side stand-as-bead-breaker dance. I can just picture two hikers hanging out up the trail getting a good laugh at my expense, lol. -Tom --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dumbazz650" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "motorcycle_guy2004" > wrote: > > Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... > > > > What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the > > road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-

go

> > kit on my FJR). > > > > tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc. > > > > Imagine a trip with 70% street, 30% dirt/gravel as an example,

with

> > somewhat limited cargo space. What's the bare minimum I should

take

> > (besides an "I'm stuck on the road, come rescue me" plan)? > > > > I carry a mountain bike pump, a patch kit, and two 9in aluminum > tire irons. Also the necessary wrenches to remove either wheel. > Sometimes also include the MotionPro jack-stick, but that depends > on having the space and load available. I replace the patch kit > every year as the glue dries out in the tube, even if it's unopened. > > I usually run the HD or ultra heavy duty tubes. They have more mass > and may change the bikes otherwise nimble behavior, but more than > once I've bounced through rock gardens at ridiculous speeds without > a flat. In fact never had a flat in about the last 30,000 miles, > knock on wood. As a kid who grew up fixing flats in bicycle tires

and

> later his own cycle tires, even stubborn TKCs and Gripsters will > eventually yield to persistence and ingenuity, as in balancing the > bike on the kickstand while using said kickstand to break the bead

on

> the back tire, after much sweating and cussing and dropping of the > bike. > > Ah, the joys of solo travel. > > HTH, > MarkB

[rsanders30117]

Tire maintenance on the road. 1. Preventative maintenance, I've up graded to ultra-heavy inner tubes. The only way these babies are going down is by a puncture & Slime can handle these beautifully. 2. I carry the following: A. A good metal barrel bicycle tire pump & that's my total inflation supply. It takes too many CO2 cartridges to reliably inflate a tire. Why bother? One good bicycle pump does it all. B. Always at least one bottle of Slime. If I'm going on a dual sport ride, I carry an extra bottle to bail out the unprepared. This stuff works remarkably well. C. In my tool pouch I carry: spare stem innards in a pill container, a valve stem tool & spare stem caps. I've had a Slime repaired rear tire hold for thousands of miles until the tire wore out. I then replaced the inner tube along with the tire. It doesn't get more convenient than that. I replace my own tires & have done so several times over. I shutter at the thought of trying to do it in the field without my lift & full size tire irons. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "motorcycle_guy2004" wrote:

> Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... > > What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the > road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-go > kit on my FJR). > > tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc. > > Imagine a trip with 70% street, 30% dirt/gravel as an example, with > somewhat limited cargo space. What's the bare minimum I should take > (besides an "I'm stuck on the road, come rescue me" plan)? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughtful and creative replies. They > need not be politically correct. > > -Tom > '00 KLR 650 > '04 FJR 1300

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-08-10 10:03:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, MBAKARICH@... writes:

> > I carry a mountain bike pump, a patch kit, and two 9in aluminum > tire irons. Also the necessary wrenches to remove either wheel. > Sometimes also include the MotionPro jack-stick, but that depends > on having the space and load available. I replace the patch kit > every year as the glue dries out in the tube, even if it's unopened. > > I usually run the HD or ultra heavy duty tubes. They have more mass > and may change the bikes otherwise nimble behavior, but more than > once I've bounced through rock gardens at ridiculous speeds without > a flat. In fact never had a flat in about the last 30,000 miles, > knock on wood. As a kid who grew up fixing flats in bicycle tires and > later his own cycle tires, even stubborn TKCs and Gripsters will > eventually yield to persistence and ingenuity, as in balancing the > bike on the kickstand while using said kickstand to break the bead on > the back tire, after much sweating and cussing and dropping of the > bike. > > Ah, the joys of solo travel. > > HTH, > MarkB > >

The only difference with Mark is the Motion Pro Quik Jak always goes with me, as do a good number of CO2 cartridges. I carry my tools in an Answer tool pouch, including the Quik Jak. It has more than enough room for all my tools and soft repair stuff, short of the bike pump. For tire irons I like the Motion Pro style that has the spoon on one end and a loop at the other - I can slip one iron through the loop to create a "t" shaped bead breaker to pry the bead off the rim. I usually carry a small bath towel as well to serve as a portable shop floor. For day rides I just strap on the tool pouch and go, or put it in the bottom of a back pack. For longer trips it goes in a pannier, along with a set of spare tubes, Moose HD (though I got a set of Fly HDs to try). On tour I'll swap the tubes and then patch the old tube at night in camp. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

I carry a can of fix a flat. and a pump. In 33 years of riding, I have never had a flat, but now with my KLR i get 60-80 miles into the mountains and I worry. My brother is a bike Guru and insists that changing a tire is the worst job u can do, and said he would rather ride on a flat than try to wrestle off a tire in the boonies, I trust him. --- kdxkawboy@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2004-08-10 10:03:07 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > MBAKARICH@... writes: > > > > > I carry a mountain bike pump, a patch kit, and two > 9in aluminum > > tire irons. Also the necessary wrenches to remove > either wheel. > > Sometimes also include the MotionPro jack-stick, > but that depends > > on having the space and load available. I replace > the patch kit > > every year as the glue dries out in the tube, even > if it's unopened. > > > > I usually run the HD or ultra heavy duty tubes. > They have more mass > > and may change the bikes otherwise nimble > behavior, but more than > > once I've bounced through rock gardens at > ridiculous speeds without > > a flat. In fact never had a flat in about the last > 30,000 miles, > > knock on wood. As a kid who grew up fixing flats > in bicycle tires and > > later his own cycle tires, even stubborn TKCs and > Gripsters will > > eventually yield to persistence and ingenuity, as > in balancing the > > bike on the kickstand while using said kickstand > to break the bead on > > the back tire, after much sweating and cussing and > dropping of the > > > bike. > > > > Ah, the joys of solo travel. > > > > HTH, > > MarkB > > > > > > The only difference with Mark is the Motion Pro Quik > Jak always goes with me, > as do a good number of CO2 cartridges. I carry my > tools in an Answer tool > pouch, including the Quik Jak. It has more than > enough room for all my tools and > soft repair stuff, short of the bike pump. For tire > irons I like the Motion > Pro style that has the spoon on one end and a loop > at the other - I can slip one > iron through the loop to create a "t" shaped bead > breaker to pry the bead off > the rim. I usually carry a small bath towel as well > to serve as a portable > shop floor. > > For day rides I just strap on the tool pouch and go, > or put it in the bottom > of a back pack. For longer trips it goes in a > pannier, along with a set of > spare tubes, Moose HD (though I got a set of Fly HDs > to try). On tour I'll swap > the tubes and then patch the old tube at night in > camp. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >

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[robert bowman]

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 11:27, DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc.

I carry two tire irons, patches, bicycle pump, fix-a-flat (slime), and CO2 cartridges with the holder. I use the stem caps that double as a core remover. Assuming you don't mount your own tires, regardless of what you carry, on a nice cool day when you're in a good mood, in the privacy of your driveway remove both wheels (one at a time) , break the bead, pull the tube out, contemplate it, stuff it back in, lever the tire back on, reinflate and reinstall with ONLY the tools in the toolkit or whatever else you are planning to carry. Life can suck if you have all the repair stuff and find you can't break the axle loose, etc. It's much better to find this out when you can go get a cold beverage or ten and give up in disgust until tomorrow.