WHOOOOOEEEE!!! Another gun thread that includes the
obligatory "ferriners" bashing. Damn, it's my time to shine!!!
Sadly, I must refrain. You can't teach anyone something they can't
comprehend regardless.
millerized
(crossing THAT country off my list of friendlies)
(((NOTICE
? NOTICE THE SMILIES!!!)))THAT MAKES IT ALRIGHT, FUNNY
AND HUMOROUS)
In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst"
wrote:
>
> Are you in the USA - the land of socialist vote buying??? Or, are
you in
> Australia?
>
>
> Mike Torst
> A16
> Las Vegas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@y... [mailto:john@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:20 PM
> To: lasvegasrider@c...; ericnospam@b...
> Cc:
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: Seat belts NKLR #2
>
> Wow some of these comments really blow me away .
Maybe it's
> Oz's much smaller population or the fact that NO ONE carries guns (
except a
> small portion of the criminal element ( Lebs and Asians ) )
>
> I feel safe going anywhere anytime day or night .
>
> I wonder is all your fear/caution/paranoia worth your
> constitutional right to bear arms .
>
> Sure bad people will always be able to get guns,
bombs,
> knifes etc However when every Tom , Dick and Harriet owns and
carries guns a
> normally well adjusted person having a fuse blow in their brain
suddenly
> becomes a walking killing machine.
>
> Take road rage for instance. Here you might get a
thump on
> the nose if you accidentally piss someone off , but you don't have
to worry
> about being shot.
>
> You have a great nation , the biggest and best of
everything
> . I loved visiting . But I'm happy down here in the ass end of the
world
> where people don't carry guns.
>
>
> Kind regards ( ducking laser sights )
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike torst
> [SMTP:lasvegasrider@c...]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 2:38
PM
Seat
> belts NKLR #2
>
> Only once so far- Lake Mead Drive near I-15-
> November 2003. He was also
> armed. I trained the laser on him as I
rapidly
> drove away. I figured that
> he was to shocked in seeing a white-boy
defend his
> ride to do anything but
> freeze. I expect that red laser light from my
40
> semi-auto was key in my
> passing from that shitty moment.
>
> Perhaps you do not offer something of value
in your
> economically challenged
> areas to warrant aggression...
>
>
> Mike Torst
> Las Vegas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Lee Green [mailto:ericnospam@b...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:30 PM
> To: mike torst
> Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Seat belts NKLR
#2
>
> mike torst wrote:
>
> >Agreed - It is easier to get my S&W .40 semi-
auto
> out w/o being strapped
> in.
> >I always unbuckle when I travel through
> economically challenged areas.
> >
> >
> Just out of curiousity, have you ever needed
to pull
> out the S&W? Just
> curious, because I've travelled through
numerous
> "economically
> challenged areas" (hell, I taught school for
a year
> in an inner city
> school in a neighborhood that was
as "economically
> challenged" as you
> can get) and never had anybody bother me.
I've
> walked door to door
> doing census in an "economically challenged"
area,
> and the worst that's
> happened to me is that a suspicious woman
refused to
> talk to me because
> she was afraid I was going to report her to
> immigration or something.
> (Of course, that was in one of
the "economically
> challenged" areas that
> I taught in, so many of the people already
knew who
> I was, but ...).
> Granted, I drive non-descript vehicles, not a
Beemer
> or Mercedes (who
> the hell wants to car-jack a 1981 Chevette? A
1995
> Ford Aspire? A 2002
> Chevy S-10 in glorious turd-brown color, last
washed
> when it drove off
> the dealer lot and with one bumper all dented
out of
> shape?). Still,
> I've never once had a situation where I
wished I was
> armed. If I had a
> gun, I'd be more afraid of being shot by a cop
> during a traffic stop
> than of anything that criminals might do.
After all,
> cops have a
> get-out-of-jail-free card to play if you have
a gun
> ("I saw he had a
> gun, I felt my life was threatened, I shot
him" --
> instant
> get-out-of-jail-free card for a cop). I've
been
> stopped by traffic cops
> perhaps a dozen times in my life. I've never
been
> stopped by a carjacker
> or anybody else who wished me harm. When
dealing
> with thugs with guns
> who are trained in how to use them and have
the
> power of the State (the
> world's largest organized crime ring) behind
them,
> it is unwise to
> appear threatening in any way -- I treat them
the
> same way I treated the
> dude who ran the crack house in one
neighborhood I
> taught in, i.e., with
> the utmost politeness and respect. (And,
strangely,
> get the same
> response back from them, gosh who woulda thunk
> it?!).
>
> Nowdays I live around the corner from a
homeless
> shelter for families
> and a few blocks from a Hispanic neighborhood
with a
> lot of young
> teenage males. Especially on hot nights,
there's a
> bunch of
> stereotypically "thuggish" looking youths
hangin' on
> the streetcorners.
> I generally take a stroll around the block
(about a
> mile) around 9pm,
> after it's gotten dark, to settle my supper
and get
> a bit of much-needed
> exercise. They utterly ignore me, except for
the
> occasional dude who
> nods my direction (I nod back). Are they just
> picking up on my
> super-coolness? My dangerous lookin' nature?
Not
> likely, given that I'm
> a nerdy white guy with glasses! Seems more
likely to
> me that danger
> lurks in the imaginations of those who cower,
rather
> than in reality.
> Reality says that violent crime has been
decreasing
> for over a decade,
> and is now at a level on a per-capita basis
similar
> to that of 1970,
> where, as a nerdy little white kid in a
neighborhood
> that was starting
> to get run-down, my parents had no problem
shipping
> my six-year-old self
> the two blocks to the public pool by myself or
> turning me out the door
> to play in the neighborhood by myself. While
I
> don't recommend walking
> up to a crack house and knocking on the door
(yes,
> I've done that as
> part of my job, no, I wasn't armed with
anything
> other than a note for
> the parent of one of my students, and no, I
don't
> think I'll do it
> again, even though my conversation with the
> inhabitants was quite polite
> and pleasant), I'm starting to think that
we've
> become a nation of
> cowards willing to sell our freedom to whoever
> promises us safety,
> rather than the land of the free and home of
the
> brave.
>
> -E
>
>
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