kings tire

[rsanders30117]

My A14 at 22K miles has developed an oil leak at the output shaft seal. Before you think otherwise, I've always kept my chain on the slack side of the recommendation. Has anyone replaced this seal without tearing down the engine? It doesn't look difficult to install the seal with the shaft in place but what's the trick to getting the leaking seal out with the shaft in the way?

[James L. Miller Jr.]

Sharp screwdriver, awl, drywall screw. Screw it in, poke it in, pull it out. Push the new one in, but only flush with the outside. If you push it in past the outside lip, repeat above steps and install a new one. Now the bearing behind it is another story..... millerized --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" wrote:

> My A14 at 22K miles has developed an oil leak at the output shaft > seal. Before you think otherwise, I've always kept my chain on the > slack side of the recommendation. > > Has anyone replaced this seal without tearing down the engine? It > doesn't look difficult to install the seal with the shaft in place > but what's the trick to getting the leaking seal out with the shaft > in the way?

[Keith Saltzer]

> My A14 at 22K miles has developed an oil leak at the output shaft > seal. Before you think otherwise, I've always kept my chain on the > slack side of the recommendation.

I too have been a fanatic at keeping my chain adjusted and I STILL had to do the job 3 times on mine in just 20,000 miles of riding. (one time I did it wrong and destroyed the new seal while pulling it out again) I'm about to do it on James bike today too. His 89 with 38,000 miles is leaking so bad that when it just parked it will leak out of there a little bit each day.

> Has anyone replaced this seal without tearing down the engine?

Yes, it's fairly straight forward.

> It > doesn't look difficult to install the seal with the shaft in place > but what's the trick to getting the leaking seal out with the shaft > in the way?

Here's some tips to make sure the job gets done right the first time: 1. After taking off the countershaft cover, and countershaft sprocket (and shift lever if you want some more room in there) you will see the seal and a solid steel coller that fits into the seal. Get a tool to grab onto the little bity edge of that coller that is sticking out and pull it out. If the bike is level or leaning on it's side stand, your going to have to drain your oil or lots of oil is going to come out when you pull the coller. If you lean it to the right a good bit you can leave the oil alone. 2. Get an "L" shaped tool to reach into the gap where the coller was and reach behind the seal and just pull it out. It will take a little effort, but it's not stuck in there as much as you would think. DO NOT rub the tool on the motor and scratch it all up where the seal seats. Also pay attention to grabbing just the seal, and not sticking the tool in there a little bit further and grabbing the motor case itself. You can pull all day and not get THAT out ya know. 3. Behind the seal, on the shaft, is a little o-ring. (that seals the INSIDE diameter of the steel coller) Check to see if you should replace that too. I would since your in there. 4. Make sure that you put some grease on the rubber o-ring AND the inside lips of the seal, so that upon first start up you do not have those parts rubbing on dry surfaces, possibly causing them to fail right away or soon after the job. That's it. Have fun. Also if your like me and hate having to wait 5 days for the dealer to get you such a cheap and little part for such a simple job, go ahead and order 2 so that you have one around for the next time. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Eduardo]

The seal is very easy to change and was explained in the previous replies. When mine just stared showing some weeping I also bought the Collar 92027-1800 and the oring 92055-1293. When I removed the seal I discovered that the collar was warn (maybe .005" or so) right where the seal makes contact (I had a new collar to compare it to). No nasty wear, no scratches across the sealing area, just a nice shiny wear pattern, but being rather anal about repairs tried to replace the collar anyways. Not being able to remove this collar I just replaced the seal and it has not leaked since. Q. can anyone tell me how to remove this collar? It is loose and it moves a little but it does not come out by just (gently) pulling and wiggling. Thanks, Eduardo, A14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" wrote:

> My A14 at 22K miles has developed an oil leak at the output shaft > seal. Before you think otherwise, I've always kept my chain on the > slack side of the recommendation. > > Has anyone replaced this seal without tearing down the engine? It > doesn't look difficult to install the seal with the shaft in place > but what's the trick to getting the leaking seal out with the shaft > in the way?

[James L. Miller Jr.]

IIRC, there's an o-ring somewhere in the mix. I think it was on the shaft under the collar. Check the fiche to make sure, but.... Of course, I could be thinking of another bike. It HAS been over 2 years since I split mine. millerized

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eduardo" wrote: > The seal is very easy to change and was explained in the previous > replies. > > When mine just stared showing some weeping I also bought the Collar > 92027-1800 and the oring 92055-1293. > > When I removed the seal I discovered that the collar was warn > (maybe .005" or so) right where the seal makes contact (I had a new > collar to compare it to). No nasty wear, no scratches across the > sealing area, just a nice shiny wear pattern, but being rather anal > about repairs tried to replace the collar anyways. > > Not being able to remove this collar I just replaced the seal and it > has not leaked since. > > Q. can anyone tell me how to remove this collar? It is loose and it > moves a little but it does not come out by just (gently) pulling and > wiggling. > > Thanks, > > Eduardo, > A14 > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" > wrote: > > My A14 at 22K miles has developed an oil leak at the output shaft > > seal. Before you think otherwise, I've always kept my chain on the > > slack side of the recommendation. > > > > Has anyone replaced this seal without tearing down the engine? It > > doesn't look difficult to install the seal with the shaft in place > > but what's the trick to getting the leaking seal out with the shaft > > in the way?

[daperryinlr]

Here's another link to a site that sells Kings tires online: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/DepartmentC.aspx? Department=647&Division=6 About $52 for a rear tire and $10 to $12 shipping depending on how you want it delivered.