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[Randy Phillips]

I just mounted/balanced some new TKC 80's on my bike - A17. As I was installing the upper front brake caliper holder bolt the threads just peeled out. Unfortunately, my A17 is just out of warranty. I would suppose the dealer would argue with me anyway, but I was gently screwing in the bolt and it did this. Anyone else have this problem? $73 at ronayers... not a cheap part. Randy A17 - Idaho :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Randy Phillips Technology Specialist Logical Systems, Inc. 208.321.2626 PHONE 208.321.2626 FAX randy@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Devon]

That's weird since the caliper bracket is steel. Only thing I can think of is someone (dealer or factory) overtorqued it. Why did you remove it anyway? If you put a screwdriver between the brake pads and gently, slowly pry them apart you can easily get the rotor back into the caliper without and disassembly besides removing the axle. randy@... wrote:

> I just mounted/balanced some new TKC 80's on my bike - A17. >As I was installing the upper front brake caliper holder bolt the threads just >peeled out. Unfortunately, my A17 is just out of warranty. I would >suppose the dealer would argue with me anyway, but I was gently screwing >in the bolt and it did this. Anyone else have this problem? > >$73 at ronayers... not a cheap part. > >

The rear caliper bracket isn't cheap either. Devon

[Randy Phillips]

That's weird since the caliper bracket is steel. Only thing I can think of is someone (dealer or factory) overtorqued it. ~ I'm VERY distraught. ~ I should have pulled it off when it felt strange. Only supposed to be ~ 18ft/lbs. I use a torque wrench so have a pretty good feel. ~ When I took it off the threads just pushed out and left a perfectly ~ smooth machined looking hole. Why did you remove it anyway? ~ I thought it would be easier to just take it off and hang it with a zippy ~ while I did the tires. You're right, I should have just left it on. ~ Sure makes a guy feel like a dork when stuff like this happens. ~ I'm really enjoy doing maintenance on my bike, but when things happen ~ like this I wish I would have paid the $60 to have Bad Monkey Cycles ~ replace my tires. Bummer part is I have been down for 2 1/2 weeks ~ waiting on new tires after a blow out and now 7-10 days from ronayers. ~ I'll be down a month and that's a real downer! I'll get over it. ~ Just needed a little sympathy. ~ Thanks ~ Randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Torst]

I would NEVER risk the issue. The caliper mount is one of the keys to my survival, so I would look for OEM or better replacement. I would not heli-coil it either. Now, as to why it happened so that it does not happen again ( or for those that have yet to do it ) - RUN THE BOLT. What I mean is that any treaded material, prior to be putting into use, should have the threaded shaft (bolt/screw) run into it for assessment of fitment. Also, lube must be used, although I STILL use fresh silicone sealant for torque preservation and retention, but I have used this solution for over 30 years - Loctite is also good, but I have built no-drip British and H-D engines before they were popular to have (20 years ago) - so ignore my thoughts - after all, I simply build leak-free motors, outer suspension seals, etc. Besides, Stu, you know more than most.... How about Stu asking a Q? I am under shock Coming from a discount dealer special buyer like me, I guess I am not in the loop. Ride on Stu! Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: Randy Phillips [mailto:randy@...] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 3:01 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Front Brake Caliper Holder Stripped I just mounted/balanced some new TKC 80's on my bike - A17. As I was installing the upper front brake caliper holder bolt the threads just peeled out. Unfortunately, my A17 is just out of warranty. I would suppose the dealer would argue with me anyway, but I was gently screwing in the bolt and it did this. Anyone else have this problem? $73 at ronayers... not a cheap part. Randy A17 - Idaho :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Randy Phillips Technology Specialist Logical Systems, Inc. 208.321.2626 PHONE 208.321.2626 FAX randy@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[CA Stu]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> I would NEVER risk the issue. The caliper mount is one of the keys to my > survival, so I would look for OEM or better replacement. I would not > heli-coil it either. > > > Now, as to why it happened so that it does not happen again ( or for

those

> that have yet to do it ) - RUN THE BOLT. > > > What I mean is that any treaded material, prior to be putting into use, > should have the threaded shaft (bolt/screw) run into it for

assessment of

> fitment. > > Also, lube must be used, although I STILL use fresh silicone sealant for > torque preservation and retention, but I have used this solution for

over 30

> years - Loctite is also good, but I have built no-drip British and H-D > engines before they were popular to have (20 years ago) - so ignore my > thoughts - after all, I simply build leak-free motors, outer suspension > seals, etc. > > Besides, Stu, you know more than most.... > >

How did I get roped into this one? Even if you are correct I agree with the previous posts on this, though. I bet it was cross threaded by the assembler from the dealer. Unless you had the caliper off before, Randy? If so, you cross threaded it, ya monkey!

> How about Stu asking a Q? I am under shock >

Mike, there are no absolute truths.

> Coming from a discount dealer special buyer like me, I guess I am

not in the

> loop. > > > Ride on Stu! > > > > > Mike Torst > Las Vegas > > I just mounted/balanced some new TKC 80's on my bike - A17. > As I was installing the upper front brake caliper holder bolt the

threads

> just > peeled out. Unfortunately, my A17 is just out of warranty.

I would

> suppose the dealer would argue with me anyway, but I was gently screwing > in the bolt and it did this. Anyone else have this problem? > > $73 at ronayers... not a cheap part. > > Randy > A17 - Idaho > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > Randy Phillips > Technology Specialist > Master of Torque Wrenches > > Logical Systems, Inc. > 208.321.2626 PHONE > 208.321.2626 FAX > randy@l...

[Randy Phillips]

Thanks for the compassion guys! Hard lesson to learn - especially, when I'm feeling so innocent. I'm very anal when working on my bikes - guess that's why it hurt my ego a taint. I wasn't aware there were "after market" parts for things like this. I ordered a Kawa OEM replacement from ronayers.com Thanks again.... just getting a little anxious to ride. My stress reliever. Randy A17 - Idaho [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Randy Phillips]

Stu just noticed the "master of torque wrenches"! Tried to sneak that in aye? Randy A17 - Idaho

> Randy Phillips > Technology Specialist > Master of Torque Wrenches > > Logical Systems, Inc. > 208.321.2626 PHONE > 208.321.2626 FAX > randy@l...

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[Mike Torst]

OK - read the faq. \ Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: Randy Phillips [mailto:randy@...] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:33 PM To: mike torst Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Front Brake Caliper Holder Stripped Thanks for the compassion guys! Hard lesson to learn - especially, when I'm feeling so innocent. I'm very anal when working on my bikes - guess that's why it hurt my ego a taint. I wasn't aware there were "after market" parts for things like this. I ordered a Kawa OEM replacement from ronayers.com Thanks again.... just getting a little anxious to ride. My stress reliever. Randy A17 - Idaho [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Dooden's Tip of the Day: Wooden Clothspin, with spring removed. Now you have 2 long tapered wedges that when inserted from opposite sides hold/compress the brake pads by simply pushing them in a bit more with your fingers. Bada Bing Bada Boom.... Dooden A15 Green Ape p.s. sorry to hear about the stripped threads, maybe there is some kind of Helicoil repair out there for it, check with your local NAPA dealer, amazing the amount of stuff thats avail. to make repairs. Not so sure I would attempt repairs by using a bolt made to fit the space unless it felt right. (At least not on the front brake)

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon wrote: > That's weird since the caliper bracket is steel. Only thing I can think > of is someone (dealer or factory) overtorqued it. > > Why did you remove it anyway? If you put a screwdriver between the brake > pads and gently, slowly pry them apart you can easily get the rotor back > into the caliper without and disassembly besides removing the axle. > > randy@l... wrote: > > > I just mounted/balanced some new TKC 80's on my bike - A17. > >As I was installing the upper front brake caliper holder bolt the threads just > >peeled out. Unfortunately, my A17 is just out of warranty. I would > >suppose the dealer would argue with me anyway, but I was gently screwing > >in the bolt and it did this. Anyone else have this problem? > > > >$73 at ronayers... not a cheap part. > > > > > > The rear caliper bracket isn't cheap either. > > Devon

[dooden]

2 and half weeks for tires ? Took me 2 days from a local shop to get them from parts direct for me cost was compairable to mail order since it was there weekly order there is no freight charges and the little more I did'nt mind giving to the local shop that tries there best to have a little of everything that most of the folk want. Oh my.. only 18 ft pounds on them ? Mine are way tighter fur sure... I did'nt even bother looking it up, I tend to just go by feel/reason for fastner gut kinda thing on alot of stuff not actually part of the engine internals for the most part. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Phillips" wrote: > That's weird since the caliper bracket is steel. Only thing I can think > of is someone (dealer or factory) overtorqued it. > > ~ I'm VERY distraught. > ~ I should have pulled it off when it felt strange. Only supposed to be > ~ 18ft/lbs. I use a torque wrench so have a pretty good feel. > ~ When I took it off the threads just pushed out and left a perfectly > ~ smooth machined looking hole. > > Why did you remove it anyway? > > ~ I thought it would be easier to just take it off and hang it with a zippy > ~ while I did the tires. You're right, I should have just left it on. > ~ Sure makes a guy feel like a dork when stuff like this happens. > ~ I'm really enjoy doing maintenance on my bike, but when things happen > ~ like this I wish I would have paid the $60 to have Bad Monkey Cycles > ~ replace my tires. Bummer part is I have been down for 2 1/2 weeks > ~ waiting on new tires after a blow out and now 7-10 days from ronayers. > ~ I'll be down a month and that's a real downer! I'll get over it. > ~ Just needed a little sympathy. > > ~ Thanks > ~ Randy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]