progressive fork install question

[bajorslavica]

My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does anybody knows how to fix this problem? Djula Bajor

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 10:25:58PM -0000, bajorslavica wrote:

> My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does > anybody knows how to fix this problem?

You might want to check the countershaft oil seal. Isn't that the usual culprit? Thor

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 10:25 PM +0000 6/27/04, bajorslavica wrote:

>My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does >anybody knows how to fix this problem?

Assuming it's not a leak, buy the cheapest oil available and live with it until the bike won't run or it sounds like the piston's going to fly out and take your leg off. Mark http://www.reelrider.com

[rsanders30117]

How many km on the clock? With that high of oil consumption, a leak seem likely such as the counter sprocket shaft, valve cover gasket problem, etc. Seem any oily dirt build up on the engine case? If not a leak, then my next best guess valve steam seal(s). Have you noted an oily spark plug or a lot of smoke at the exhaust? --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bajorslavica" wrote:

> My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does > anybody knows how to fix this problem? > > Djula Bajor

[Devon]

It's likely either rings, or valve guide seals (assuming you don't have a puddle under the bike in the morning). Either way you have to do motor work. You can see if the rings are bad, by doing a compression test then dumping 15cc of oil down the plug hole and doing the test again. If the compression goes up then the rings are not sealing. A leakdown test is a lot more precise. The easiest thing is to buy the cheapest oil you can find, and check/fill it often. Devon sraurora@... wrote:

>My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does >anybody knows how to fix this problem? > > >

[dooden]

Might also add that 5,000 rpm and up tends to make oil just vapourize. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" wrote: > How many km on the clock? > > With that high of oil consumption, a leak seem likely such as the > counter sprocket shaft, valve cover gasket problem, etc. Seem any > oily dirt build up on the engine case? If not a leak, then my next > best guess valve steam seal(s). Have you noted an oily spark plug or > a lot of smoke at the exhaust? > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bajorslavica" > wrote: > > My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does > > anybody knows how to fix this problem? > > > > Djula Bajor

[Mike Torst]

Ring sealing issues on a 4" piston are going to be an issue. Think of the KLR650 piston as one cylinder of a 350 ci (Chevy-GM) motor. Sealing IS an issue over 4,500 rpm. I experience near-zero oil loss, until I run w/ BMWs at 80-90 mph. At 60-70 mph I have little loss. Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: Dooden [mailto:dooden@...] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:06 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Oil problem Might also add that 5,000 rpm and up tends to make oil just vapourize. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" wrote: > How many km on the clock? > > With that high of oil consumption, a leak seem likely such as the > counter sprocket shaft, valve cover gasket problem, etc. Seem any > oily dirt build up on the engine case? If not a leak, then my next > best guess valve steam seal(s). Have you noted an oily spark plug or > a lot of smoke at the exhaust? > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bajorslavica" > wrote: > > My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does > > anybody knows how to fix this problem? > > > > Djula Bajor List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[dumbazz650]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 10:25:58PM -0000, bajorslavica wrote: > > My KLR 650 needs one liter of oil on every 300 kilometers. Does > > anybody knows how to fix this problem? > > You might want to check the countershaft oil seal. Isn't that the > usual culprit? > > Thor

Seems like it would be very obvious if the countershaft seal was the culprit, i.e., oil splash all over the chain and sprockets. Usual suspects would be rings, oil seals on valve stems. Crankcase vent could an issue, sucking up too much oil. But that's usually the rings allowing the excess blow-by. Compression test coule help you check the condition of the rings. It is a bit tricky though, due to the auto-magic compression release (KACR). hth, MarkB

[Matthew Murnaghan]

Did mine last week... hardest part was securely propping front end up (no centerstand or lift) I used wood blocking after jacking underneath the skid plate with an auto jack. 1. Get the front end up loosen top pinch bolts and remove fork caps. leave the wheel on. 2. remove phillips heads at base of forks and drained old fork oil. (move the forks up and down a few times to get all the oil out. I got a little over 400 cc out of each fork leg. 3. removed springs and spacers and blocked up front wheel to fully compressed position using spacers. Added new oil til 190 mm from top of fork (used a marked dowel as a primitive "dip stick"). I used bel-ray 15W 4. lowered front wheel added new springs(LR-progressive) and new spacers (2.5") and installed fork caps and tightened pinch bolts. (I cut one of the old spacer down to two 2.5 " spacers). Can also use PVC pipe. all told took about 1.5 hrs (working slowly). Amazing the difference it makes... matthew

----- Original Message ----- From: "mtnrx13" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:33 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Progressive Fork Install Question > > I am getting prepped to install the progressive fork springs on the > KLR. Is it necessary to remove the forks? Front wheel? Front brake > caliper? Or, can I just remove fork oil, remove cap, remove forks > and install new? > > I am using the "fork oil change" instructions from Mark's KLR 650 > Website, which are very comprehensive, but perhaps there is a less > prolonged method that I am missing. > > Please guide me, Oh wise ones... > > db > Alpha One Eight > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >