new to list and some questions

[Mark Lewis]

Helmets are heavier than they need to be because because in order to pass the DOT and Snell requirements they have to resist puncture. The guy who wrote the article felt that the puncture test wasn't valid and more folks would wear the lighter helmets. My 3/4 helmet is DOT/Snell approved. It's an HJC that cost $38.00 new. I have another DOT/Snell approved helmet that cost $25.00 new last year. I don't think either one of them increases my chance of survival. I wear a helmet because I always have and I feel funny without one. It gives my wife the warm fuzzys too. Each to his own! Mark Lewis

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 20 May 2004, Mark Lewis wrote:

> Stastics show that helmets don't increase survial rates but they do

Stastics may show that, but statistics show another thing altogether. I'd be dead with my head cracked open like a melon if not for a helmet. Even with a helmet, I had a concussion that had me seeing mighty fine hallucinations on the emergency room ceiling for a while. Count me as one "statistic" that ain't amused. -E

[azman321]

Even though I think your logic is just plain silly (Florida is so exactly like Iowa it's spooky -- was it some kind of secret government state-cloning program? ) I agree with your conclusion. In fact, I think anyone who regularly rides without a helmet, shouldn't be allowed to wear a helmet. The sooner they're out of the jury, voting and gene pools, the better. Jett, A15, AZ (A non-helmet state where we lose a couple of rugged individualists most weeks -- if only their pipes had been a little louder ;^) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Lewis" wrote:

> Compare Florida, a helmet state, with Iowa, a no-helmet state. > Florida has a beautiful, year-round riding season. Iowa has a long, > brutal winter. Yet Iowa has more than three times the number of > registered motorcycles per 100 population as Florida. In

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[Zachariah Mully]

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 12:18, Mark Lewis wrote:

> Helmets are heavier than they need to be because because in order to > pass the DOT and Snell requirements they have to resist puncture. > The guy who wrote the article felt that the puncture test wasn't > valid and more folks would wear the lighter helmets. My 3/4 helmet > is DOT/Snell approved. It's an HJC that cost $38.00 new. I have > another DOT/Snell approved helmet that cost $25.00 new last year. I > don't think either one of them increases my chance of survival. I > wear a helmet because I always have and I feel funny without one. It > gives my wife the warm fuzzys too. Each to his own! >

Just out of morbid curiousity, do you wear any riding gear, such as a jacket, pants or gloves? Z DC A5X A12X

[Mark Lewis]

"Just out of morbid curiousity, do you wear any riding gear, such as a jacket, pants or gloves?" A leather jacket in the cold months and gloves & boots year round. Mark Lewis

[Mark Lewis]

"A leather jacket in the cold months and gloves & boots year round." Also Scott Goggles! Mark Lewis

[Krgrife@aol.com]

I'm with Conall on this based on personal experience. My little mishap in Baja 2 1/2 years ago that required shoulder surgery and a year of physical therapy for recovery would have been much worse without a good helmet. I took a strong impact on the back of the helmet which left me briefly unconscious and then ground some very deep gouges into the chinbar and shield as I continued my slide into some rocks. I'm sure that an open face helmet of any type would have left me with severe facial injuries. Kurt Grife In a message dated 5/19/04 9:59:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, klr650dotcc@... writes:

> > Knew one guy who was wearing a open face helmet who was hit head on > while stopped at a traffic light, it took his Doctors 1 year and > twelve operations to rebuild his face. > Knew a Det. Sgt. with the NJ state police who told me about a > motorcycle rider that wore a open face helmet who went face first > into a chain link fence at 60 mph, who's head was like a water > balloon held in place by the helmet. Found him DOA. > Knew another rider who slammed into a gravel truck at 100 mph on a > Kawasaki Z1 900 who survived, but his head enlarged to about 3 times > it's normal size, like a 15 lb watermelon. > I don't care what the helmet looks like, I'll always wear a fullface. > I remember when a novelty helmet was a EZ rider stars and stripe > helmet like Peter Fonda had,( actually bought one from JC Whitney in > the 70's) or maybe an inflatable helmet for those times when you met > a traveling companion you wanted to take for an improptu ride. >

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[Zachariah Mully]

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 12:53, Mark Lewis wrote:

> "Just out of morbid curiousity, do you wear any riding gear, such as > a jacket, pants or gloves?" > > A leather jacket in the cold months and gloves & boots year round.

Interesting. Have any skin grafts? Z DC A5X A12X

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 20 May 2004, Mark Lewis wrote:

> "Just out of morbid curiousity, do you wear any riding gear, such as > a jacket, pants or gloves?" > > A leather jacket in the cold months and gloves & boots year round.

Well darn, you mean you don't ride while wearing sandals, t-shirt, and shorts in the summertime? What kind of squid are you, anyhow, didn't they teach you ANYTHING in squid school?! :-):-):-) -E

[Devon]

Mlewishome@... wrote:

>snip > > I >don't think either one of them increases my chance of survival. I >wear a helmet because I always have and I feel funny without one. It >gives my wife the warm fuzzys too. Each to his own! > >

In other words, you feel weird without a helmet. So your gut tells you you should be wearing a helmet, your wife (who undoubtably worries about you just like mine worries about me) thinks you should be wearing one, helmet law or no. So why do you listen to a bunch of ABATE guys, and then ignore their advice based on your own instincts and (sound) judgement? Seriously, I'm asking you- Would you allow your child to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, yes or no? Devon