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[azman321]

I'm with you that it would not be a substitute, and would be way different, but with a little work, the little DL might be a pretty good alternative. I'm thinking in sort of a modern TransAlp sort of way -- smooth twin, long legs on the highway up to 80 or 90, middle- weight adventure-tourer. You're right, its belly is way too exposed. There's the front exhaust, the oil cooler and filter, and the engine bottom. To really adventure tour, it would need a skid plate and guards, maybe like the nerf bars, but a little easier on the eye. There are already good tire and luggage options. The power is good and the seat, fuel tank and alternator are acceptable. It would need a little better suspension, but that should be doable. But if all of that could be put together at 430 pounds for under $7,000 with TKC-80's, it might be pretty nice. You'd give up some on the single-track, but gain a lot on the highway. It could be a nice alternative to the big GS. Jett, A15 AZ --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:

> Everyone loved the DL650, and with good reason--it's a great street > bike, and tons of fun on smooth dirt roads. But it's no substitute > for a KLR when the going gets rough--one good smack on that front > header pipe and the fun's over for the day. > > __Arden > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "azman321"

wrote:

> > I've seen references before that the KLR would have to go at some > > point cause it couldn't pass emissions tests, but I've never seen

[Eric L. Green]

[Re: re-badged Suzuki VSTROM 650

> You're right, its belly is way too exposed. There's the front > exhaust, the oil cooler and filter, and the engine bottom. To really > adventure tour, it would need a skid plate and guards, maybe like the > nerf bars, but a little easier on the eye. There are already good > tire and luggage options. The power is good and the seat, fuel tank > and alternator are acceptable. It would need a little better > suspension, but that should be doable.

Actually, what it needs is a new frame. The VSTROM 650 uses the same basic frame as the VSTROM 1000, just with a smaller engine. That is why it is so heavy for what should be a small lightweight 650. Not to mention that a 90 degree V-2 makes that front header WAY too exposed. A narrower V-2 would make the bike taller, but get that front header out of the grass. There's just no way to make it reasonably useful on rutted washed out dirt-and-rock roads in the backcountry (like Forest Service roads in Arizona), in other words. It's a nice bike, but not for what I want my KLR for. -E

[Svantwuyver]

Time to get in line for the F1 Diesel KLR engine. Stretch the KLR lifespan. Ought to be good for a million miles or so. -svt- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25 http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

[Russell Scott]

Toby just picked one up from Suzuki today for review in a future edition of DSN. Looking at it, the exhaust would last about two minutes, followed by a hole in the oil filter. If you reroute the exhaust, and put a bash plate on it, only then would I ride it on anything but a nice dirt road. Now if you could take that motor, and put it into a KLR type frame, with modern suspension and brakes, that would be a superb all-around D/S. Russell -----Original Message----- From: Dave Meers [mailto:DAVEM@...] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:48 PM To: bseifert71@...; azman321; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: The End of the KLR? I looked at the 650 V-strom as maybe a replacement for my KLR. There is just too much crap hanging below that machine to be considered any kind of DS.

[Krgrife@aol.com]

I got some miles on the DL650 last weekend and think it is a great all around bike but agree that it is worlds away from being a dual sport at least for my needs. To my mind this type of bike is the modern equivalant of the old "standard" with a lot of versatility and comfortable ergos. The bike was really a pleasure to ride on a twisty road, I thought I would want more power but the bike is geared so well that I didn't miss it. I hope they sell a ton of them so that in a couple of years there is a good supply of used ones for me to choose from. Toby is headed this way tomorrow and I'm giving him a brief tour of some of the back roads in northern SLO county, maybe a little Hwy 1. Regards, Kurt Grife Avila Beach, Ca In a message dated 4/22/04 6:31:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, russell@... writes

> > Toby just picked one up from Suzuki today for review in a future edition of > DSN. Looking at it, the exhaust would last about two minutes, followed by a > hole in the oil filter. If you reroute the exhaust, and put a bash plate on > it, only then would I ride it on anything but a nice dirt road. Now if you > could take that motor, and put it into a KLR type frame, with modern > suspension and brakes, that would be a superb all-around D/S. >

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[Lujo Bauer]

An MZ Baghira looks like it could be a pretty good KLR replacement. On the other hand, it probably won't be around longer than the KLR.... -Lujo James L. Miller Jr. wrote:

> The mini-strom is no KLR. It's no KLX or KX. The DR is no KLR in my > mind, that's why I chose to hang with you guys. Once the KLR is gone, > and one day it WILL go away, there doesn't seem to be anything in > either manufacturer's inventory right now that can fill those shoes. > The DR, while a similar type bike, I don't think is even in the > running for my money. I'll just have to start hoarding them thar > KLR's. or go orange. > millerized

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[sleazyvagabond]

the last 3 motorcycles i've seen broke down were H-D so i wondered do they make a Roadside FVR?