klr replacement handle bars

[aea]

My immense wealth OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head. What I am about to admit will destroy any credibility that I hadn't had anyway. Before I go and spill the beans, I have to say I am very thrilled with the KLR. I got to do some off roading and found it to be a bit squirrly in the mud that comes with the frost leaving the ground. Best bet was to schooch back on the seat and give it more fuel ... so far so good. Before I had actually bought the bike I thought I would want a 16 tooth sprocket, a forkbrace and a bunch of extra guards. Then I bumped into Eldon Carl's stuff and realized I could always add stuff later anyway and decided to hold off on too many extras. I did get the doohickey kit from Fred and a set of shims. I was a bit concerned that this particular KLR may have been producing more vibration than average and after reading all about the balancer chain assembly I thought I would go ahead and adjust the tension per Mr. Carl's instructions, which by the way are perfectly clear. http://multisurfacemotorcycling.com/klrpage/lever_adj_p1.htm So after finishing up work today I read the instructions and I did the adjustment. Here comes the bad part... I had bought some metric tools a few weeks ago and got my first ever torque wrench while I was at it. Well I thought today how the hell could he be saying to torque this little lock down bolt to 70 ft lbs ?!?! I can't believe it but some how instead of doing the obvious which was to snug it up real good and forget it, I got all fixated on this torque wrench and just wrecked my bike!!! I either snapped the bolt or just ripped all the threads right out, won't know until the autopsy. Dang! Looks like I'll be upgrading the doooohickee very soon as I now have to "go there". Of course it was inch pounds not foot pounds. I get it now! Andy A18 525 miles... temporarily out of commission

[bigfatgreenbike]

swamp-yankee@... wrote:

>My immense wealth > > >OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head. > >I either snapped the bolt or just ripped all the threads right out, won't >know until the autopsy. Dang! Looks like I'll be upgrading the doooohickee >very soon as I now have to "go there". > >Of course it was inch pounds not foot pounds. I get it now! > >

It takes cojones to publicly admit doing something really stupid like that. We all have stories.... Perhaps more stupid darwas the time I was trying to make a metal sculpture at home (after first year of college), and knowing that zinc was used in the jeweler's solder, was melting down some pennies with a propane torch in the basement. Once you melt the zinc on the inside, it pours right out the tiniest scratch in the copper plating. I was SO sick the next day, like the worst gin hangover I'd ever had. My uncle (welder), in between laughing his ass off, told me all about "metal fume fever". Go to http://darwinawards.com/ you'll feel much better. -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

[tim dermody]

You're not alone in "stupid mechanic tricks" dude. There I was, replacing a primary belt drive on my 1950 rigid Harley. Remember "righty tighty/lefty loosy"? Doesn't work with left hand threaded crank shaft nuts. I stripped that sucker right out. Had to pull the motor, split the cases, and separate the flywheel. $800+ later, I had it running again. Good luck wiht your surgery. Derm --- bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> > > swamp-yankee@... wrote: > > >My immense wealth > > > > > >OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head. > > > >I either snapped the bolt or just ripped all the > threads right out, won't > >know until the autopsy. Dang! Looks like I'll be > upgrading the doooohickee > >very soon as I now have to "go there". > > > >Of course it was inch pounds not foot pounds. I get > it now! > > > > > > It takes cojones to publicly admit doing something > really stupid like > that. We all have stories.... > > Perhaps more stupid darwas the time I was trying to > make a metal > sculpture at home (after first year of college), and > knowing that zinc > was used in the jeweler's solder, was melting down > some pennies with a > propane torch in the basement. Once you melt the > zinc on the inside, it > pours right out the tiniest scratch in the copper > plating. > > I was SO sick the next day, like the worst gin > hangover I'd ever had. My > uncle (welder), in between laughing his ass off, > told me all about > "metal fume fever". > > Go to http://darwinawards.com/ you'll feel much > better. > > -- > Devon > Brooklyn, NY > > A15-Z '01 KLR650 > '81 SR500 cafe racer > > "The truth's not too popular these days....." > > Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >

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[Mark J. St.Hilaire, Sr]

> My immense wealth OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head.

We've ALL been there Andy, we've all perpetrated some sort of unkindness on our machines. I'm sure you're not to thrilled about the situation now, but I 'm just as sure that it will all work out in the end. Sorry to hear it happened to you, but at least you got "it" done right away - like that first scratch on a brand new red Z3. Now, you've given your sacrifice to the mech gods, and they'll leave you alone. (Grin) "Thinking out loud" about an appropriate response to the situation... If the adjuster bolt is broken, it would just be a matter of getting it out of there and getting a new one. If the case threads are stripped out - (here's where I'm not sure) - I wonder if you could fill the hole with JB Weld, allow it to cure and then drill & tap it. I've never actually had to use a heli-coil, and am not sure if they let you use the same size fastener as the one that had previously been in there. I think THAT would be the main thing, to figure out a way to use the stock adjuster bolt. It seems like it would be a real stinker to come up with a home-built alternative. BTW: Someone on the list talked with Eldon about the balancer adjustment a while ago, and I put his quoted response on one of my webpages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/balancer.htm It may help to see both the ft/lbs AND in/lbs information... 6. Tighten bolt to 8.5 ft/lbs of torque (104in/lbs). Best of luck, Mark My KLR650 Motorcycle Website: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Our HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html Check out Geocaching: http://www.geocaching.com

[aea]

Hehe! I woke up this morning hoping it was all a dream. Anyway, if the threads are gone, I am going to take the inner cover to the local machine shop and have it drilled and tapped and have the new too large lock down bolt, turned down on a lathe in the appropriate spot... or something to that effect. I like your instructions much better on the adjustment, by the way. Cheers, Andy -----Original Message----- From: Mark J. St.Hilaire, Sr [mailto:msaint@...] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:14 AM To: 1 - KLR650 List; aea Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Monkeys and Torque Wrenches

> My immense wealth OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head.

We've ALL been there Andy, we've all perpetrated some sort of unkindness on our machines. I'm sure you're not to thrilled about the situation now, but I 'm just as sure that it will all work out in the end. Sorry to hear it happened to you, but at least you got "it" done right away - like that first scratch on a brand new red Z3. Now, you've given your sacrifice to the mech gods, and they'll leave you alone. (Grin) "Thinking out loud" about an appropriate response to the situation... If the adjuster bolt is broken, it would just be a matter of getting it out of there and getting a new one. If the case threads are stripped out - (here's where I'm not sure) - I wonder if you could fill the hole with JB Weld, allow it to cure and then drill & tap it. I've never actually had to use a heli-coil, and am not sure if they let you use the same size fastener as the one that had previously been in there. I think THAT would be the main thing, to figure out a way to use the stock adjuster bolt. It seems like it would be a real stinker to come up with a home-built alternative. BTW: Someone on the list talked with Eldon about the balancer adjustment a while ago, and I put his quoted response on one of my webpages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/balancer.htm It may help to see both the ft/lbs AND in/lbs information... 6. Tighten bolt to 8.5 ft/lbs of torque (104in/lbs). Best of luck, Mark My KLR650 Motorcycle Website: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Our HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html Check out Geocaching: http://www.geocaching.com

[Fred Hink]

Have a Heli-coil installed. This will make your stripped out threads better than new. http://www.helicoil.com/products/helicoil.html Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "aea" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:57 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] RE: Monkeys and Torque Wrenches > Hehe! I woke up this morning hoping it was all a dream. > > Anyway, if the threads are gone, I am going to take the inner cover to the > local machine shop and have it drilled and tapped and have the new too large > lock down bolt, turned down on a lathe in the appropriate spot... or > something to that effect. > > I like your instructions much better on the adjustment, by the way. > > Cheers, > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J. St.Hilaire, Sr [mailto:msaint@...] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:14 AM > To: 1 - KLR650 List; aea > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Monkeys and Torque Wrenches > > > My immense wealth OF STUPIDITY has once again raised its ugly head. > > We've ALL been there Andy, we've all perpetrated some sort of unkindness on > our machines. I'm sure you're not to thrilled about the situation now, but I > 'm just as sure that it will all work out in the end. Sorry to hear it > happened to you, but at least you got "it" done right away - like that first > scratch on a brand new red Z3. Now, you've given your sacrifice to the mech > gods, and they'll leave you alone. (Grin) > > "Thinking out loud" about an appropriate response to the situation... If the > adjuster bolt is broken, it would just be a matter of getting it out of > there and getting a new one. If the case threads are stripped out - (here's > where I'm not sure) - I wonder if you could fill the hole with JB Weld, > allow it to cure and then drill & tap it. > > I've never actually had to use a heli-coil, and am not sure if they let you > use the same size fastener as the one that had previously been in there. I > think THAT would be the main thing, to figure out a way to use the stock > adjuster bolt. It seems like it would be a real stinker to come up with a > home-built alternative. > > BTW: Someone on the list talked with Eldon about the balancer adjustment a > while ago, and I put his quoted response on one of my webpages: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/balancer.htm It may help to see both the ft/lbs > AND in/lbs information... 6. Tighten bolt to 8.5 ft/lbs of torque > (104in/lbs). > > Best of luck, > Mark > > > > My KLR650 Motorcycle Website: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/ > > Our HomePage: > http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html > > Check out Geocaching: > http://www.geocaching.com > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Jim]

Saturday, February 14, 2004, 5:49:27 PM, aea wrote: a> weeks ago and got my first ever torque wrench while I was at it. Well I a> thought today how the hell could he be saying to torque this little lock Oh I can remember my first torque wrench 'incident'... never read instructions - was changing oil on my 80 something Kawasaki KZ550 LTD. This bike had seen it's better days already but it was my first real street bike. Went to change the oil, drained it - was putting the plug back in and click, click click click click SNAP. Broke right off. I used some steel epoxy to stick it back in, and never changed the oil again Rode that bike all that summer, just adding oil when needed and that fall I sold it to a friend who wanted to learn how to ride and I bought a brand new Honda Hawk. I also tossed the click torque wrench and bought a beam type instead Much simpler! jim

[Mike Torst]

At 6'2" I found the Desert bars to be a bit low. The eagle risers, also only about 3/4" in thickness, made the bars just about right Mike Torst Las Vegas

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@...] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:53 AM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com; eriketucker > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR replacement handle bars > > The Renthal Des/Vin bend bars are just about the same bend as your OEM > handlebars. They might be just a bit wider. If you are wanting to raise > your handlebars, check out the Eagle Risers. > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/bar_risers.html > > Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "eriketucker" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:08 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR replacement handle bars > > > > Has anybody changed there handle bars? I am looking at the renthal > desert/vintage, I > > was wondering if anybody out there has a set of these on there KLR, if > so > are the > > taller then the stock bars? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Erik > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >