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[Rob Newman]

anyone use this Streetpilot III on dual sport rides? I'd like to get it as a replacement for my GPS V; mostly for the larger screen and extra data capacity. I'm just worried it might be a little big for sitting up on the handle bars. It looks like it would stick out a bit and be in danger of taking a flying rock or be too exposed in a lay down. I really like the new Streetpilot 2610; it seems the ideal size and features but at $800 it's a bit pricey and the III does most things the 2610 does it's just lots bigger. but at almost half the price. thanks -rob

[Mark Sampson]

anyone use this Streetpilot III on dual sport rides? I'd like to get it as a replacement for my GPS V; mostly for the larger screen and extra data capacity. Rob-----------forgetting the size-----I am not a fan of the Streetpilot three at all------it doesn't store or save track logs---this one lack of feature rules it out for me. You are overlooking a much better unit which is what I have been using for the last 3 years--------the Garmin 176 and 176C (color)----the screen size is about the same as the Street Pilot but the GPS is much more compact and much lighter---The streetpilot holds 500 waypoints-the 176 holds 3,000. The 176 will store 50 routes and 20 saved track logs. The streetpilot is not a good choice for backroading or dualsporting---the 176 out performs in many ways. However the 176 does not auro route---------But a dualsporter, backroader or adventure traveler has no use for auto routing. That's what you do in the car----auto route------straight line fast route--get it over with as soon as possible so you can get back on your dual sport !! And the 176 is cheaper. Mark Sampson www.bigdogadventures.com

[thad_carey]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Sampson" wrote:

> anyone use this Streetpilot III on dual sport rides? I'd like to

get

> it as a replacement for my GPS V; mostly for the larger screen and > extra data capacity. > > Rob-----------forgetting the size-----I am not a fan of the > Streetpilot three at all------it doesn't store or save track logs---

this

> one lack of feature rules it out for me. > > You are overlooking a much better unit which is what I have

been

> using for the last 3 years--------the Garmin 176 and 176C (color)---

-the

> screen size is about the same as the Street Pilot but the GPS is

much

> more compact and much lighter---The streetpilot holds 500 waypoints-

the

> 176 holds 3,000. The 176 will store 50 routes and 20 saved track

logs.

> The streetpilot is not a good choice for backroading or > dualsporting---the 176 out performs in many ways. > > However the 176 does not auro route---------But a dualsporter, > backroader or adventure traveler has no use for auto routing. That's > what you do in the car----auto route------straight line fast route--

get

> it over with as soon as possible so you can get back on your dual

sport

> !! > > And the 176 is cheaper. > > Mark Sampson > www.bigdogadventures.com

I've never owned or used a GPS before now, so I'm certainly no voice of experience. I did have the same concern as you, however, when it comes to damage, exposure to the elements, vibration, and so on--especially for a relatively expensive unit. I was really close to buying a 176 as mentioned by Mark. This is probably the best unit out there for actually running mounted on the bike. Get one of those $150 Cycoactive vibration control mounts and hardwire it to the bike, and you'd be set for just about anything. I'm new to GPS, but not to KLR off road adventures. I didn't really need a unit and an expensive mount to actually guide me on my trail excursions. I actually enjoy using a relatively simple map like the ones usually provided by park services and local sources. I'd have gone broke by now buying all the USGS topo maps for the areas I've been. Even with the topo map, you'd occasionally find trails that weren't on the map or not be able to determine which turnoff you might have missed. I've always wanted to know "EXACTLY" where I was on the occasion when I'd hit a confusing area. I wanted a GPS to assure me that I was on course or tell me that I'd taken a wrong turn. Those of you who do it, know the kind of dead-end trails and unmarked intersections that you run into in some off road situations. Often you end up wasting valuable time that you did not have on a long day's ride by making one of these wrong moves. Southeastern Utah has had about as many of these as any location I've traveled in. This is the beauty of a map style GPS like Mark and Stu have mentioned. The e-map that Stu mentioned is hard to find now, but both of these units have a card- slot that allows you to put maps on the cards and then into the GPS. With the proper maps, the GPS will always show you exactly where you are without having to figure lats and longs or have a topo map. As you move the GPS puts your position on the map in real time. These units with the cards seem the way to go. I did something a little weird, at least weird by most GPS user standards. I bought a Garmin iQue 3600. Yikes, a PDA based GPS? Yep...I did say weird. I got a 12V powersource cord for it and an external antenna. And the nice thing is that it uses SD data cards. I got a couple of 256MB cards with it (I think you can go up to 1.0G on these cards). This thing is slightly bigger than deck of playing cards but has a relatively huge color screen. I've loaded the entire southwestern USGS topo maps from Garmin's U.S. Topo CD onto one of the cards with room to spare for my upcoming trip. I have the unit in a rack bag on the bike where it's nicely protected. It's connected to the bike's 12V power and the external antenna constantly picks up a GPS signal. The unit runs anytime the unit is turned on or when you have an external antenna plugged in--the screen doesn't even have to be on. For riders using a GPS to navigate for an event like Stu mentioned, this system would be useless. But for being out-of-harm's-way, and be constatly available when needed, it gets the job done in a pretty cool way. The unit has a ton of other features such as voice directed routing and such when you're in your car, and of course it has a full function PDA, Palm, or whatever you want to call it. If you absolutely want an on-bike mounted GPS, then I'd go with Mark's 176map recommendation. Spend the money on a good vibration contol mount. If you like any of the issues that the 3600 can provide, then do some research on the GPSNOW.com site for lots of good Garmin info. Whichever way you go, I'd suggest getting a data card model. That feature gives you lots of neat options for urban or off road use. Thad Carey A15 (GI Joe using a GPS to find Barbie)

[Rob Newman]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "thad_carey" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Sampson" > wrote: > That feature gives you lots of neat options for urban or off road

use.

> Thad Carey > A15 (GI Joe using a GPS to find Barbie)

good write up Thad. I'm a technology geek so that's part of my motivation with all this but I also ride solo a fair amount (as I know a lot of us do) so I have no problem paying a decent amount of money to have a full featured GPS that can help me prevent my wife from collecting on my life insurance too soon. I actually own a iQue and a Garmin GPS V and I've owned a couple of Magellen units prior. I considered rigging the iQue up somehow but it's just dosn't quite fit what I'm looking for; The screen display on the Que is not quite large enough imo and I just cannot see trying to use it while riding as the buttons are way too small to operate without pulling over. It also lacks a lot of the features I'm looking for such as auto-backtracking (a huge feature for peace of mind when out tooling around in the woods), easy uploading of routes, simple waypoint creating and management (I simply hate how the iQue saves waypoints in the address database), off road (or cross-country as some units call them) navigation screen - another big feature imo. The other thing about the iQue is that in my experience (and not just my opinion),is that it is way to fragile to consider mounting on the handlebars and taking off on a 100 mile off-road excursion. I've had mine die twice so far since I bought it at the end of last summer. The most recent one was for the dreaded "static-shock of death"; which a lot of iQue ownwers have been experiencing. I had to send the iQue back and they had to replace the entire PC board. Not saying it's a bad unit, it's fine for carrying around in your shirt pocket or sitting on the dashboard (which is actually where mine was when it died) but it's not built for tough outdoor use and for $500, I don't want to risk that chance again as my warrenty is about to run out. Good discussions though.. thanks guys.

[azman321]

Just so no one is surprised, there is a new Garmin series, the 60C series, just coming out. I was set to buy a GPSMap76s a few months ago, and stopped when I saw the 60C series. They're more large-pocket sized than dashboard sized, have a color screen and more memory than the 76 series, and the ETrex's. They're around $400 discount. I think they may have auto-routing, but I don't think I'll use it. The battery life is 30 hrs. I know there is a wide spectrum of units available, and I wouldn't tell any one else what to buy, but I think this is going to be right for me. This will be my third GPS and I'm a big fan of the technology. http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap60c/ (I do, however, agree that I don't think the IQue and the 26xx series are waterproof or shockproof enough to use on a bike.) Jett, A15 AZ --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Newman" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "thad_carey" > wrote: > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Sampson" > > wrote: > > That feature gives you lots of neat options for urban or off road > use. > > Thad Carey > > A15 (GI Joe using a GPS to find Barbie) > > > > good write up Thad. I'm a technology geek so that's part of my > motivation with all this but I also ride solo a fair amount (as I > know a lot of us do) so I have no problem paying a decent amount of > money to have a full featured GPS that can help me prevent my wife > from collecting on my life insurance too soon. >

[Mark Sampson]

Jet Wrote: Just so no one is surprised, there is a new Garmin series, the 60C series, just coming out. I was set to buy a GPSMap76s a few months ago, and stopped when I saw the 60C series. They're more large-pocket sized than dashboard sized, have a color screen and more memory than the 76 series, and the ETrex's. They're around $400 discount. I think they may have auto-routing, but I don't think I'll use it. The battery life is 30 hrs. I know there is a wide spectrum of units available, and I wouldn't tell any one else what to buy, but I think this is going to be right for me. This will be my third GPS and I'm a big fan of the technology. Mark replied: I agree whole heartedly with you Jet----the 60C is the neatest little handheld on the market---it has everything a guy could need except a big screen----but hey some people aren't old like me and don't need the bigger screen I use a 176C but have considered getting one just for those rare occasions I need a GPS off the bike. And the price is pretty good. Mark Sampson www.bigdogadventures.com

[hijklr]

Mike, You may be trying to use the clamps and bar ends designed for a pro taper bar which fit a more elliptical cross-sectional shaped bar. If you still have the stock handlebars you need the clamping hardware to match. The cycra's must be purchased to fit your type of handlebar. I didn't like the rubber hose/bolt bar end hardware they ship with the standard steel bar config so bought some aftermarket aluminum ones. My cycra's fit tight and rock solid with no modifications to the bike. Love the protection and freedom of movement they provide.

> Has anyone else had a problem with the Cycra hand guard clamps not > tightening down enough? Seems like if you torque on them a bit > they'll swivel a tad. Doesn't seem very strong. > > Thanks, > Mike