transport question: got a nklr...finally!

[Seroj]

I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends. Hit a hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her over nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and bike and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is fine except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed from elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting more grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and I've ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? Seroj Born to slide

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 3:53 PM +0000 7/23/03, Seroj wrote:

>Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs?

Sunday was the 2-year anniversary of my 75 mph slide under a guardrail, which left me in a total mess and bed-bound for a month. I'll never completely recover from it. My crash wasn't due to losing grip, but because of a front tire blowout. Keep sterile-saline soaked gauze on the rash with twice-daily changes and your skin will thank you. Mark

[Jim]

Ouch. Glad you are OK. I'd go back an examine the corner to make sure there wasn't anything there that may have caused it? Oil? Gravel? Then I'd inspect your tires? Were they warmed up? The only thing I've lowsided was an old BMW and that was 100% rider error. Cold day, new (cold) tire, and dumbass rider (me) jim

On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, Seroj wrote: S> I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends. Hit a S> hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her over S> nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and bike S> and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is fine S> except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my S> leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed from S> elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. S> I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting more S> grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and I've S> ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock S> dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. S> Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? S> Seroj S> Born to slide S> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html S> Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: S> DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . S> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Devon Jarvis]

> At 3:53 PM +0000 7/23/03, Seroj wrote: > >Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? >

35mph on damp roads (just started drizzling), off-camber left turn through an intersection on a brand new MT21. Too much gas and the back wheel overtook the front. Picked it up, rode the rest of the way to the trails, then hugged a tree an hour later, at 10mph or so. Lowsided my SR500 on a hard surfaced dry road in broad daylight, 50mph into a guardrail. Just massively overcooked a hard corner while sport riding on the street. Destroyed a hand-formed aluminum fuel tank, bent the forks, tore my BMW riding boot like tissue paper, and opened up the skin on my left shin by completely crushing it between the fuel tank and the bone. I ended up sliding under the guardrail in front of the bike, quite suprised to see my lower leg still attached. Even more suprised five minutes later when I could feel it, and limp around five minutes after that. This was the crash that inspired me to get my KLR650 and stop sport riding on the streets. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[bkowalca]

Just last Sunday, first ever crash on the street. Road was wet, stopping at an intersection, lightly grab the front brake, bike instantly goes down like it was on ice. KLR skids off the road, sparks flying. I skid for about 20 ft. I get up, not a scratch, my Joe Rocket Ballistic 3.0 jacket worked as advertised. The bike was a little worse off, the rear signal light was smashed and the left foot peg snapped off after it dug into the dirt at the side of the road. I road the 2 hours home using the passenger peg. Bryan K A14

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Seroj" wrote: > I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends. Hit a > hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her over > nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and bike > and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is fine > except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my > leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed from > elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. > > I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting more > grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and I've > ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock > dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. > > Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? > > Seroj > Born to slide

[Rob Newman]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" wrote:

> Just last Sunday, first ever crash on the street. Road was wet, > stopping at an intersection, lightly grab the front brake, bike > instantly goes down like it was on ice. KLR skids off the road, > sparks flying. I skid for about 20 ft. I get up, not a scratch, my > Joe Rocket Ballistic 3.0 jacket worked as advertised. The bike was

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> little worse off, the rear signal light was smashed and the left > foot peg snapped off after it dug into the dirt at the side of the > road. I road the 2 hours home using the passenger peg. > > Bryan K > A14 > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Seroj" wrote: > > I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends.

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> a > > hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her

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> > nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and > bike > > and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is > fine > > except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my > > leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed > from > > elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. > > > > I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting

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> > grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and > I've > > ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock > > dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. > > > > Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? > > > > Seroj > > Born to slide

[Rob Newman]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" wrote:

> Just last Sunday, first ever crash on the street. Road was wet, > stopping at an intersection, lightly grab the front brake, bike > instantly goes down like it was on ice. KLR skids off the road, > sparks flying. I skid for about 20 ft. I get up, not a scratch, my > Joe Rocket Ballistic 3.0 jacket worked as advertised. The bike was

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> little worse off, the rear signal light was smashed and the left > foot peg snapped off after it dug into the dirt at the side of the > road. I road the 2 hours home using the passenger peg. > > Bryan K > A14 > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Seroj" wrote: > > I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends.

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> a > > hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her

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> > nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and > bike > > and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is > fine > > except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my > > leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed > from > > elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. > > > > I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting

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> > grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and > I've > > ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock > > dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. > > > > Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? > > > > Seroj > > Born to slide

[Barnaby Robson]

sorry about the accident how high was your tire pressure ? did you check the road to see if there was any antifreeze or oil there ? barnaby. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Newman [mailto:newmanr19@...]

> > dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. > > > > Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? > > > > Seroj > > Born to slide

[Devon Jarvis]

> > >>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Seroj" wrote: >> >> >>>I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends. Hit a hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her over >>> >>> >>>nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and bike >>> >>> >>>and I are sliding. >>> >>> BTW, I'm running stock >>>dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. >>> >>>Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? >>> >>>Seroj >>>Born to slide >>>

Either you had cold tires, or you hit a patch of something slippery- sand, oil, coolant etc. The stock Dunlops are close to race wets, when warmed up I could lean over to the edge of the outside knobs. They stick really well. Sorry to hear you got hurt, but I don't think you can blame the tires. I would respectfully point out, myself having been caught out attacking 15mph curves at 35-45mph, that if you ride like it's a racetrack it better be clean and smooth like a racetrack or you're screwed. Devon A15-Z

[mrmooseisloose]

My 2 cents worth is about the same as Devons, and the other guys that have asked, "did you check the road to see what you ran over". I use Avon Gripsters, and after about 2000 miles on them, and leaning the bike all the way over till my pegs are grinding all the way through the middle and part of the exit of the turn, I have lots and lots of confidence in their ability to stick, IF, the road is clean AND the tires are warm, AND my triple clamp bolts and steering stem nut is all tight, AND I know that my air pressure is where I want it. (28 rear 26 front) Every time I have slid the rear while leaned over, I have gone back to find at least a little water or gravel or oil. I just kept the throttle open and picked up the bike a bit and got through it.(thank god) Just today, I slid the front a whole bunch, causing my butt cheeks to grab hold of the seat quite a bit. It was a corner that I have gone through many times. The tires could have been warmer, but when I went back to see what I hit, the road had a series of 3 bumps, with just a touch of gravel on it, and then later in the day while riding, I felt some looseness in my front end. Went home to check it and found everything nice and tight....EXCEPT the steering stem nut. (DOOH!) I can't believe how loose the front end felt with just that one stupid nut not tightened. I hope your road rash doesn't get to you to badly, but just remember this, there's only 2 types of riders out there. One's that have gone down, and the one's that are going to. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Seroj" wrote: > I was out street riding the KLR last night with some friends. Hit a > hairpin corner marked at 15mph going about 30-35. Leaned her over > nice and relaxed. Next thing I know the rear tire washes out and bike > and I are sliding. We slid and tumbled off the road. The bike is fine > except a few scrapes on the radiator guard. I wasn't wearing my > leather jacket, so I didn't fare as well. My left arm is rashed from > elbow to shoulder. Knee and hip are sore. > > I know I hit the turn pretty agressively, but I was expecting more > grip from the rear tire - it's been pretty good to me so far and I've > ridden it pretty hard through the turns. BTW, I'm running stock > dunlops. Not at ALL confident about them anymore on the street. > > Anyone else out there lowsided their KLRs? > > Seroj > Born to slide