ca emissions canister removal question

[Carl Picco]

Hey gang, I finally took my 2001 KLR650 for a well enjoyed & overdue long hwy & back road ride, (Ramapo 500 try it yourself next year) I've mostly been doing urban assualt these past 6 months great against the pothole & road destruction. Like the VW ad says "NY, NY named twice, paved once." Besides wringing the guts out of it and needing to touch redline more than once to keep near my riding buddies on (street bikes) [I should also mention that the both hold AMA/club expert level racing licenses] and/or to pass very pokey 4 wheels. The bike was great (but all you know this already) I'm still learning it and I understeered a bit as I'm accustomed to a quicker turning bike, plus wasn't quite used to the large wheel & fork angle, It only really mattered at elevated speeds on/in the twisty stuff. I'll practice more. The Problem I found was wind noise, yeah I've learned from this list that there's no perfect windshield and when I stood up the wind noise disappeared. I removed the clear part of the 'shield and that helped some, mostly with the buffeting. So I figure that there's some part of the built on fairing that causes the noise. Details & factoids: I'm 5' 8" tall, 160 lbs, I don't require long/tall or short shirts or jackets (shirt size 14.5 X 32, jacket 40-42) so I guess I'm regular in body proportions. I wear an Aria Signet GT helmet, usually using earplugs (even with, this noise was loud & detrimental). I've replaced the bars with less wide and lower (to make urban riding easier & fit me better) I've also lowered it 3/4" in the front + about 1 " in the rear, to help make backward-walking parking easier. With and without the clear part of the fairing the noise went away when I stood on the pegs or got out of the bikes airstream. without the piece the noise builds from 60 mph & is quite deafening at 80+. With it seems to start around 40-45 mph & builds. I'm currently using it without & the only problem that that creates is a loss of a place for my E-Z pass (mostly a NE thing) SOOO, what have YOU been able to do to knock out the noise (no riding on the pegs always is not an acceptable option and just accepting it isn't one either.) Changed the shape of the fairing? A wider cut down 'shield? winglets? Better ear plugs? noise canceling technology? adapting windscreens from boom microphones? I'm trusting some of you have gone thru this already & can save me the massive part of problem solving process. Thanks, Carl Picco On the island of Brooklyn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Devon Jarvis]

Carl Picco wrote:

> > SOOO, what have YOU been able to do to knock out the noise (no riding on the > pegs always is not an acceptable option and just accepting it isn't one > either.)

I'm the same physical size as you, and had similar issues. I put an Acerbis fork-mounted fairing on my bike, it moves the edge of the windblast to mid-chest, still functional on the highway but quieter. The other option is to set up the fairing in "beater" configuration, so named after Mark Van Horn's beater bike. Remove the plastic cowling, cut down the turn signal stalks, and the bike looks sort of like a streetfighter. Looks best with one of bigcee.com's headlight grilles. The cheapest option, is to simply start trimming the top of the stock fairing until it works. You can get replacement fairings from dual-star.com most of the time, pretty cheap. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[Guy B. Young II - COG Tech Ed]

Carl, In days of yore when I was riding un or half-faired bikes, I always wore earplugs. I joking said that, when 70, and my wife started whispering sweet nothings in my ear, I wanted to hear it. Well, I'm now at the stage in my marriage that I *know* that ain't ever gonna happen, so when I started riding a Concours a number of years ago I found that I really didn't need earplugs. My helmet was an Shoei RF700, is now an Shoei RF800, and I always ride with the shield up, even in the winter. The only exception is when it is raining or snowing. I bought a KLR in January and during my first blast (60-70mph) down the freeway to work I found that the wind noise was unbearable. That evening I dug out my old stash of ear plugs and started using them when riding the KLR. I store them, and extras, in a film cannister in the rear pouch of my Explorer. Not sure whose they are (will look tonight), but mine are a soft, orange, rounded plug looking type that do an excellent at blocking 98% (guestimate) of the noise I had been hearing, again this is with the shield up. I had tried the cylindrical shaped earplugs (EAR) in the past, but they didn't hold a candle to the ones I am using now. The fairing and the shield on the bike are stock. I'm no expert, but my money's on the helmet (some are more noisy than others), and the earplugs. Since the latter is the lesser $$ of the two, I'd recommend trying different types to find one that works the best. Also, proper insertion is key in how well they perform. The ones I use need to be inserted deep into the ear canal to provide the optimim noise cancellation. I can tell immediately once underway if I got lazy and didn't get them in correctly, or allowed them to 'crawl' back out as they expanded. Sorry. Got a little long winded there (no pun intended). Guy A16 '95 Concours Richmond, VA -------Original Message------- From: Carl Picco SOOO, what have YOU been able to do to knock out the noise (no riding on the pegs always is not an acceptable option and just accepting it isn't one either.) Changed the shape of the fairing? A wider cut down 'shield? winglets? Better ear plugs? noise canceling technology? adapting windscreens from boom microphones?

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 9:41 AM -0400 8/1/03, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>The other option is to set up the fairing in "beater" >configuration, so named after Mark Van Horn's beater bike. >Remove the plastic cowling, cut down the turn signal stalks, >and the bike looks sort of like a streetfighter. Looks best >with one of bigcee.com's headlight grilles.

Here's a photo of my A2: http://www.personal.psu.edu/mjv2/madmax.jpg

>The cheapest option, is to simply start trimming the top of >the stock fairing until it works. You can get replacement >fairings from dual-star.com most of the time, pretty cheap.

I also did this on my A3. I took an old helmet visor & used it as a template, traced with a marker, whipped out the Dremel tool and then put door edging on the top edge. I cut the shield down about 4". Looks & works great. Mark

[Devon Jarvis]

Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > > Here's a photo of my A2: > http://www.personal.psu.edu/mjv2/madmax.jpg >

Where did you find that bash plate? What was it in its previous life? For comparison, the rubber indicator mounts here.... http://216.173.6.149/acerbis_hp_fairing_directionals.jpg http://216.173.6.149/acerbis_hp_klr.jpg Used to be the rubber blade from a big squeegee. I'm told the aluminum from road signs is ideal for motorcycle bodywork. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 12:27 PM -0400 8/1/03, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>Where did you find that bash plate? What was it in its >previous life?

Believe-it-or-not... it's a bona fide KLR aluminum bash plate, one of the earlier styles without side protection. It's a bit FUBAR since it assumed the shape of the engine & frame twice and I had to bring it back into shape with a 20 lb sledge. That's why you may have mistaken it for a coal shovel. Mark

[josephgreer]

OK... with a little more research I found the DECALIFORNICATION procedure I was after. If anyone has insight or comments on the steps involved, please let me know. Thanks, - Joe --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "josephgreer" wrote:

> My California A12 KLR is now living back East, and I would like > to permanently remove the emissions cannister for easier > access to the pre load adjustment on the shock. Does anyone > know the procedure for removing cannister and how to route or > terminate the various hoses that remain?? Is there any

re-tuning

> that must be done also? Thanks! - Joe