Hey fellow Listers
Just in the middle of my first Doohickey replacement on my A1 The old
one hadn't yet reached the end of its rope, however for peace of mind
after 16 years I decided it needed replacing. I was a little
surprised to find it was different than many have described on the
list [as being held together with a weld]. The original is machined
to fit an held in place with a circlip
My query is -----
1. Is it OK to replace the original with one from Jake? The problem
being that I cannot install the circlip.
2. Will the Doohickey stay in place without this clip??
3. Is just using the adjuster bolt enough to hold it in place and
keep it from coming of the shaft, or should I put the old one back on?
4. Are the doohickey's on the later model KLR's held in place with a
clip or just with the adjusting bolt?
Thanks for any help you can give me,
Wayne A1
Nfld, Canada
1998 klr650 for sale, dallas tx
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Wayne,
The new lever goes on without the circlip, and is held by the bolt.
That is also how the later models are. No problem.
You have the earlier stamped one piece lever. No problem. Those don't
break, but the slotted hole does oval out, and then does not properly
tension the chain. Your idler shaft is also shorter.
Unless you are willing to take apart your engine, and machine the
cases, you will not be able to upgrade the idler sprocket, it's
bearing, and install the longer idler shaft.
If I were you, I would carefully check the counterbalance weights,
and the pins and springs that drive them. They have been known to
come apart, and send pieces through the engine. You would also lose
the waterpump drive if this happens. You can upgrade to the later
factory parts for about $100, US. These parts changed in '97, so that
the counterweights had the drive splines built in.
Mike
Eagle Mfg & Eng
San Diego, Ca.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "piker650" wrote: > Hey fellow Listers > Just in the middle of my first Doohickey replacement on my A1 The old > one hadn't yet reached the end of its rope, however for peace of mind > after 16 years I decided it needed replacing. I was a little > surprised to find it was different than many have described on the > list [as being held together with a weld]. The original is machined > to fit an held in place with a circlip > My query is ----- > 1. Is it OK to replace the original with one from Jake? The problem > being that I cannot install the circlip. > 2. Will the Doohickey stay in place without this clip?? > 3. Is just using the adjuster bolt enough to hold it in place and > keep it from coming of the shaft, or should I put the old one back on? > 4. Are the doohickey's on the later model KLR's held in place with a > clip or just with the adjusting bolt? > Thanks for any help you can give me, > Wayne A1 > Nfld, Canada
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Early model KLRs like your A1 have stamped steel doohickey. According
to Jake himself, they are not subject to fracture like the later
model welded ones. When I called to order his replacement and he told
me there's no advantage to be gained by replacing the stock unit on
the models having the earlier design.
Jim
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "piker650" wrote: > Hey fellow Listers > Just in the middle of my first Doohickey replacement on my A1 The old > one hadn't yet reached the end of its rope, however for peace of mind > after 16 years I decided it needed replacing. I was a little > surprised to find it was different than many have described on the > list [as being held together with a weld]. The original is machined > to fit an held in place with a circlip > My query is ----- > 1. Is it OK to replace the original with one from Jake? The problem > being that I cannot install the circlip. > 2. Will the Doohickey stay in place without this clip?? > 3. Is just using the adjuster bolt enough to hold it in place and > keep it from coming of the shaft, or should I put the old one back on? > 4. Are the doohickey's on the later model KLR's held in place with a > clip or just with the adjusting bolt? > Thanks for any help you can give me, > Wayne A1 > Nfld, Canada
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Jim,
This is a case where I will disagree. The lever may not break, but
the chain will not be properly tensioned, either. I've seen early
levers crimped into the case, and around the bolt so much there is
NO WAY they will adjust. Also, the double D slot for the shaft will
oval out, and allow the shaft to rotate a great deal. This early
lever is very soft, and thin. It was not heat treated after forming,
and if you see the shape, you can tell it had the be soft to take
that form. I've also hardness tested them.
I agree that the lever is unlikely to fail catastrophically, but the
odds are at least 50-50 that it is not tensioning the balancer
chain. I've taken apart 3 of the early bikes with this lever, and
not one would tension the chain. This is also due in part to the
legendary Kawasaki spring quality.
I'm not saying this because I make these parts - it's an objective
observation. I've helped fit (without charge) a couple of levers
that were not made by me, in the interest of helping the guy get his
bike fixed.
Mike
Eagle Mfg & Eng
San Diego, Ca.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "jimr37663" wrote: > Early model KLRs like your A1 have stamped steel doohickey. According > to Jake himself, they are not subject to fracture like the later > model welded ones. When I called to order his replacement and he told > me there's no advantage to be gained by replacing the stock unit on > the models having the earlier design. > > Jim > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "piker650" wrote: > > Hey fellow Listers > > Just in the middle of my first Doohickey replacement on my A1 The > old > > one hadn't yet reached the end of its rope, however for peace of > mind > > after 16 years I decided it needed replacing. I was a little > > surprised to find it was different than many have described on the > > list [as being held together with a weld]. The original is machined > > to fit an held in place with a circlip > > My query is ----- > > 1. Is it OK to replace the original with one from Jake? The problem > > being that I cannot install the circlip. > > 2. Will the Doohickey stay in place without this clip?? > > 3. Is just using the adjuster bolt enough to hold it in place and > > keep it from coming of the shaft, or should I put the old one back > on? > > 4. Are the doohickey's on the later model KLR's held in place with > a > > clip or just with the adjusting bolt? > > Thanks for any help you can give me, > > Wayne A1 > > Nfld, Canada
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1998 klr650 for sale, dallas tx
I bought the bike last year from a guy in alabama. Once I bought it,
I went to work on it in anticipation of some serious miles.
Things done to the bike:
1) new fork seals, bushings, sliders, gators
2) new sprokets, chain
3) new trailwing tires
4) total teardown of swingarm and lubricate
5) valves adjusted
6) new brake pads, new brake fluid
7) new battery
8) Installation of a Jake's balance shaft tensioner and tensioner
spring (new engine gaskets used)
Add-ons to the bike:
1) Cee Baileys windshield (+10)
2) Cee Baileys head light protector
3) Happy trails bash plate
4) Kawasaki tail bag
Things that come with it:
1) K&N filter
2) stock bash plate
3) new front kobby
4) stock windshield
5) Owners manual and service guide
6) Jake's flywheel removal tool
Two weeks ago, I bought a 1150GS thus I'm selling the KLR.
Pictures of the klr can be found at
http://home.texoma.net/~rknipe/goldwing/goldwing.html at the bottom
of the page. The cosmetic shape of the bike is good (a few nicks,
scratches) and the mechanicals are excellent. 14k miles.
$2300
email rknipe@... or call 214-567-7623
Regards,
Richard
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