windshields again

[zrod73026]

The stethascope will scare half to death! I put a screwdriver up to my cams one day and almost fainted. Try 20-50 castrol and see what happens. Also consider your oil pump screen, not too hard. Hope you are not missing your oil pump tube! Rod, (noisy motoman badass KLR) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" wrote:

> It happens only when the engine is running and only after it warms > up. I have a feeling that it's a valve problem more than

anything.

> How often are you supposed to adjust the valves, every 10,000

miles?

> If so, i just had one at 8,000. Tomorrow the shop is open so i'll > talk to them and see. Also, tonight I'll take the stethoscope out > and see if I can pinpoint where the noise is coming from. I can

hear

> it when I'm in neutral so hopefully that will give me some clues. > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones"

> wrote: > > The more info you give, the less it sounds like pinging, and the > more > > it sounds like a fan blade ticking, ticky valve, or something

like

> > that. > > Does the noise vary with engine speed? > > Do you hear it only when running, or can you hear it while

cranking

> > the starter? > > Does it matter if the fan is running? > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > > wrote: > > > Thanks, Mark! Stock carb and engine temp is fine. The line is > > > usually well below the middle mark except for last friday when

I

> was > > > riding in 104 degree weather, then it was just a little above

the

> > > middle mark. At that point, my body temperature level was well > > above > > > the middle mark so we pulled over for about an house to cool

down!

> > > > > > I'll definately check the spark plug. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn > > > wrote: > > > > Assuming it is knock and not chain noise, make sure you have > the > > > > correct spark plug in the engine. If it is the correct one,

try

> a > > > > colder plug. > > > > It could also be a lean condition. Is the carb stock? > > > > How's the engine temperature? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > At 6:46 PM +0000 6/30/03, mugga112001 wrote: > > > > >yes, it sure does. I always put the highest octane gas when > > > filling > > > > >up. Other than using the best gas, what else is there to do? > > > > > > > > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis

> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Does it usually happen when you are accelerating, or

going

> > > > >> uphill?

[klr6501995]

A couple of known pesky noises are the stock muffler;known as "tweety" and another in the headlight mounting assembley. Be certain that the noise isn't coming from these areas. Tinking noises are generally predetonation. Which is very bad. Others have posted good advice on this topic. The KLR motor does make a bit of noise. rattles and such. Esp with loosey valves; happy tappy valves. Can be difficult to unpracticed ears to be certain of noise location. I'm thinking tweety is creeping up on you. Because you can hear it at idle and at all speeds. My limited experience I only experienced predetonation with low octane, heat, and load on motor. Plus bad jetting. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" wrote:

> I thought I'd turn to the list's collective mind for help. I have

a

> 1996 with a little over 12,000 miles on it and my bike is making a > funny noise. It happens when it's hot, you know after riding a

bit.

> The noise sounds like when you have a fan turned on and you stick a > small thin metal into the blades, tink, tink tink. (Oh god, do I > sound like a girl trying to explain to her mechanic the noise my

car

> is making or what) > > At first I thought that was the problem, some wire had come loose > while riding and was hiting against my fan blade while it was

turning

> but after taking the tank off and checking everything out it there > wasn't anything there. Nothing was loose, wiggled or looked like

it

> had been chewed off. Then I though oh god, I've run it out of

oil.

> I check my oil level before every ride and check it again and the > site was full. My husband thought that it might be stickie valves, > but I'm not sure. I had the bike serviced a month ago at 9600

miles

> and they said everything was fine. But we have been on some longer > rides this past month. > > I am going to take it to the shop but I thought I'd check with you > all before I take it in. Thanks!

[maniac5285]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Currin" wrote:

> Anyone else tried the handlebar mounted winshields? > Thomas R. Currin > Marietta, Georgia

-------------------- Yes - I ran a slipstreamer 17" when I had my KLR. I liked it a bunch - I am 5'11" and it put the main airstream about one inch above my head. Loctite a necessity, of course, to secure the mounts to the handlebars. Held up off road, too, a little shaky at times, but held up. National cycle are great, ran one on my klr600. Easy to run into clearance problems, though, with the stock "mini" fairing. Good Luck, Ian Schoenleber Temecula, CA

[mugga112001]

yeah, tweety problem, had to deal with that with the trusty screwdriver and mallet. Thanks for the suggestion.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote: > A couple of known pesky noises are the stock muffler;known > as "tweety" > and another in the headlight mounting assembley. > Be certain that the noise isn't coming from these areas. > > Tinking noises are generally predetonation. Which is very bad. > Others have posted good advice on this topic. > > The KLR motor does make a bit of noise. rattles and such. Esp with > loosey valves; happy tappy valves. > Can be difficult to unpracticed ears to be certain of noise location. > > I'm thinking tweety is creeping up on you. > Because you can hear it at idle and at all speeds. > > My limited experience I only experienced predetonation with low > octane, heat, and load on motor. Plus bad jetting. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > wrote: > > I thought I'd turn to the list's collective mind for help. I have > a > > 1996 with a little over 12,000 miles on it and my bike is making a > > funny noise. It happens when it's hot, you know after riding a > bit. > > The noise sounds like when you have a fan turned on and you stick a > > small thin metal into the blades, tink, tink tink. (Oh god, do I > > sound like a girl trying to explain to her mechanic the noise my > car > > is making or what) > > > > At first I thought that was the problem, some wire had come loose > > while riding and was hiting against my fan blade while it was > turning > > but after taking the tank off and checking everything out it there > > wasn't anything there. Nothing was loose, wiggled or looked like > it > > had been chewed off. Then I though oh god, I've run it out of > oil. > > I check my oil level before every ride and check it again and the > > site was full. My husband thought that it might be stickie valves, > > but I'm not sure. I had the bike serviced a month ago at 9600 > miles > > and they said everything was fine. But we have been on some longer > > rides this past month. > > > > I am going to take it to the shop but I thought I'd check with you > > all before I take it in. Thanks!

[mugga112001]

Missing an oil pump tube, now that's scaring me!

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "zrod73026" wrote: > The stethascope will scare half to death! > I put a screwdriver up to my cams one day and almost fainted. > Try 20-50 castrol and see what happens. > Also consider your oil pump screen, not too hard. > Hope you are not missing your oil pump tube! > Rod, (noisy motoman badass KLR) > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > wrote: > > It happens only when the engine is running and only after it warms > > up. I have a feeling that it's a valve problem more than > anything. > > How often are you supposed to adjust the valves, every 10,000 > miles? > > If so, i just had one at 8,000. Tomorrow the shop is open so i'll > > talk to them and see. Also, tonight I'll take the stethoscope out > > and see if I can pinpoint where the noise is coming from. I can > hear > > it when I'm in neutral so hopefully that will give me some clues. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones" > > > wrote: > > > The more info you give, the less it sounds like pinging, and the > > more > > > it sounds like a fan blade ticking, ticky valve, or something > like > > > that. > > > Does the noise vary with engine speed? > > > Do you hear it only when running, or can you hear it while > cranking > > > the starter? > > > Does it matter if the fan is running? > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > > > wrote: > > > > Thanks, Mark! Stock carb and engine temp is fine. The line is > > > > usually well below the middle mark except for last friday when > I > > was > > > > riding in 104 degree weather, then it was just a little above > the > > > > middle mark. At that point, my body temperature level was well > > > above > > > > the middle mark so we pulled over for about an house to cool > down! > > > > > > > > I'll definately check the spark plug. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn > > > > wrote: > > > > > Assuming it is knock and not chain noise, make sure you have > > the > > > > > correct spark plug in the engine. If it is the correct one, > try > > a > > > > > colder plug. > > > > > It could also be a lean condition. Is the carb stock? > > > > > How's the engine temperature? > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > At 6:46 PM +0000 6/30/03, mugga112001 wrote: > > > > > >yes, it sure does. I always put the highest octane gas when > > > > filling > > > > > >up. Other than using the best gas, what else is there to do? > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> Does it usually happen when you are accelerating, or > going > > > > > >> uphill?

[zrod73026]

Sorry, gotta quit PUI...(posting under the influence) I meant the oil FILTER bypass tube. Your oil won't get filtered without it. Rod (making more coffee) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" wrote:

> Missing an oil pump tube, now that's scaring me! > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "zrod73026" wrote: > > The stethascope will scare half to death! > > I put a screwdriver up to my cams one day and almost fainted. > > Try 20-50 castrol and see what happens. > > Also consider your oil pump screen, not too hard. > > Hope you are not missing your oil pump tube! > > Rod, (noisy motoman badass KLR) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > > wrote: > > > It happens only when the engine is running and only after it > warms > > > up. I have a feeling that it's a valve problem more than > > anything. > > > How often are you supposed to adjust the valves, every 10,000 > > miles? > > > If so, i just had one at 8,000. Tomorrow the shop is open so > i'll > > > talk to them and see. Also, tonight I'll take the stethoscope > out > > > and see if I can pinpoint where the noise is coming from. I

can

> > hear > > > it when I'm in neutral so hopefully that will give me some > clues. > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones" > > > > > wrote: > > > > The more info you give, the less it sounds like pinging, and > the > > > more > > > > it sounds like a fan blade ticking, ticky valve, or something > > like > > > > that. > > > > Does the noise vary with engine speed? > > > > Do you hear it only when running, or can you hear it while > > cranking > > > > the starter? > > > > Does it matter if the fan is running? > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mugga112001" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Mark! Stock carb and engine temp is fine. The

line

> is > > > > > usually well below the middle mark except for last friday > when > > I > > > was > > > > > riding in 104 degree weather, then it was just a little

above

> > the > > > > > middle mark. At that point, my body temperature level was > well > > > > above > > > > > the middle mark so we pulled over for about an house to

cool

> > down! > > > > > > > > > > I'll definately check the spark plug. > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Assuming it is knock and not chain noise, make sure you > have > > > the > > > > > > correct spark plug in the engine. If it is the correct

one,

> > try > > > a > > > > > > colder plug. > > > > > > It could also be a lean condition. Is the carb stock? > > > > > > How's the engine temperature? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > At 6:46 PM +0000 6/30/03, mugga112001 wrote: > > > > > > >yes, it sure does. I always put the highest octane gas > when > > > > > filling > > > > > > >up. Other than using the best gas, what else is there

to

> do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Does it usually happen when you are accelerating, or > > going > > > > > > >> uphill?