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Post by TM1669@cs.com » Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:44 pm

There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right?

Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Thu Jun 19, 2003 4:23 pm

> There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? >
Right ! Bogdan

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Post by Devon Jarvis » Thu Jun 19, 2003 4:27 pm

TM1669@... wrote:
> > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? >
It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless tires on KLRs are fine. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

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Post by westnash1 » Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:00 pm

If anyone has figured out how to run tubless tires successfully on the KLR I would like to learn more.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > TM1669@c... wrote: > > > > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? > > > > It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might > eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so > (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were > going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless > tires on KLRs are fine. > > Devon > > -- > "It's a troublesome world, > all the people who are in it, > are troubled with troubles > almost every minute" > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by klr6501995 » Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:09 pm

Folks do it all the time. Everbody usually uses tubes in them though. It was said a rider used silicon to seal the rims. and ran w/o tubes. Not me. Seem that centrifigul(sp) force would really cause a problem with silicone flying out of the rim. jmho.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "westnash1" wrote: > If anyone has figured out how to run tubless tires successfully on > the KLR I would like to learn more. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > > > TM1669@c... wrote: > > > > > > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? > > > > > > > It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might > > eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so > > (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were > > going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless > > tires on KLRs are fine. > > > > Devon > > > > -- > > "It's a troublesome world, > > all the people who are in it, > > are troubled with troubles > > almost every minute" > > > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by James L. Miller Jr. » Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:34 am

not to mention the fact that you're gonna have a hell of a time putting it back on the rim when you flatten it in the middle of nowhere and it comes off the bead. Leave well enough alone. PUt in a monster tube, slime it and ride. millerized
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote: > Folks do it all the time. > Everbody usually uses tubes in them though. > > It was said a rider used silicon to seal the rims. and ran w/o tubes. > > Not me. Seem that centrifigul(sp) force would really cause a problem > with silicone flying out of the rim. jmho. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "westnash1" wrote: > > If anyone has figured out how to run tubless tires successfully on > > the KLR I would like to learn more. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis > wrote: > > > > > > > > > TM1669@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? > > > > > > > > > > It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might > > > eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so > > > (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were > > > going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless > > > tires on KLRs are fine. > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > -- > > > "It's a troublesome world, > > > all the people who are in it, > > > are troubled with troubles > > > almost every minute" > > > > > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by dooden » Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:32 am

Or you can "shove" a plug in it, air it up and hardly get your hands dirty.. and be rolling again in a few minutes. Just the other side of the coin talking. Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "James L. Miller Jr." wrote:
> not to mention the fact that you're gonna have a hell of a time > putting it back on the rim when you flatten it in the middle of > nowhere and it comes off the bead. Leave well enough alone. PUt in > a monster tube, slime it and ride. > millerized > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote: > > Folks do it all the time. > > Everbody usually uses tubes in them though. > > > > It was said a rider used silicon to seal the rims. and ran w/o > tubes. > > > > Not me. Seem that centrifigul(sp) force would really cause a > problem > > with silicone flying out of the rim. jmho. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "westnash1" > wrote: > > > If anyone has figured out how to run tubless tires successfully > on > > > the KLR I would like to learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > TM1669@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might > > > > eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so > > > > (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were > > > > going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless > > > > tires on KLRs are fine. > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "It's a troublesome world, > > > > all the people who are in it, > > > > are troubled with troubles > > > > almost every minute" > > > > > > > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by Arden Kysely » Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:04 am

After helping a friend change his R1150GS road tires to TKC-80's at a campground, I can tell you that the old tubeless tires came off easily, and the new ones went on easily. But getting the bead to seat so we could get air in wasn't so easy. His 12v air compressor wouldn't do it, and all of our squeezing, whamming, and sitting on the tires was for naught. Good thing there was a gas station with a real air compressor nearby. __Arden
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > Or you can "shove" a plug in it, air it up and hardly get your hands > dirty.. and be rolling again in a few minutes. > > Just the other side of the coin talking. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "James L. Miller Jr." > wrote: > > not to mention the fact that you're gonna have a hell of a time > > putting it back on the rim when you flatten it in the middle of > > nowhere and it comes off the bead. Leave well enough alone. PUt in > > a monster tube, slime it and ride. > > millerized > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote: > > > Folks do it all the time. > > > Everbody usually uses tubes in them though. > > > > > > It was said a rider used silicon to seal the rims. and ran w/o > > tubes. > > > > > > Not me. Seem that centrifigul(sp) force would really cause a > > problem > > > with silicone flying out of the rim. jmho. > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "westnash1" > > wrote: > > > > If anyone has figured out how to run tubless tires successfully > > on > > > > the KLR I would like to learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TM1669@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no problem running tubes in a tubeless tire, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It drops the speed range by 1 grade. Since the KLR might > > > > > eventually wheeze and stumble it's way up to 100mph or so > > > > > (no, just because your speedo said 110 doesn't mean you were > > > > > going that fast) it's totally irrelevant. Tubes in tubeless > > > > > tires on KLRs are fine. > > > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "It's a troublesome world, > > > > > all the people who are in it, > > > > > are troubled with troubles > > > > > almost every minute" > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by roadkill_db » Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:01 am

I was watching a show about 4 wheel drives and they had some modified SUV's that they took to the South Pole I believe. They had huge oversized tires that they ran with really low pressure to help them from dropping throught the snow. One problem they had was the tires loosing their bead since the pressure was so low. They too had the problem of getting the bead to seat but came up with a brillant idea. They sprayed some WD40 into the tire, then using a lighter and the WD40 can (like a flame thrower) ignited the fumes in the tire, which combusted and inflated the tire and seated the bead. Now it was pretty dramatic event that had the possibility for some bad results, but possibly an idea for someone that may be stuck in some far away location with few options and they have their WD40 and a lighter handy. Dean Braun Hopefully a A1 owner soon. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> After helping a friend change his R1150GS road tires to TKC-80's at
a
> campground, I can tell you that the old tubeless tires came off > easily, and the new ones went on easily. But getting the bead to
seat
> so we could get air in wasn't so easy. His 12v air compressor > wouldn't do it, and all of our squeezing, whamming, and sitting on > the tires was for naught. Good thing there was a gas station with a > real air compressor nearby. > > __Arden > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "James L. Miller Jr." > > wrote: > > > not to mention the fact that you're gonna have a hell of a time > > > putting it back on the rim when you flatten it in the middle of > > > nowhere and it comes off the bead. Leave well enough alone. > > >

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Post by Ted Palmer » Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:53 pm

roadkill_db wrote: [...]
> They too had the > problem of getting the bead to seat but came up with a brillant > idea. They sprayed some WD40 into the tire, then using a lighter and > the WD40 can (like a flame thrower) ignited the fumes in the tire, > which combusted and inflated the tire and seated the bead.
[...] Yeah, a car distributor with innards hosed with WD40 can make an interesting blue flame around the base of the dizzy cap when you start the car, but it takes a little while for the WD40 to get churned up by the shaft and weights first. Mister_T Melbourne Australia

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