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Zachariah Mully
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Post by Zachariah Mully » Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:43 am

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:36, Mark McMullen wrote:
> Seems like the biggest problem/pain I have with changing tires/tubes > is getting the valve stem back into the rim. I talked with a friend > of mind about it and he said his Dad had a tool he would screw into > the valve stem and it had a chain or cable attached to it and it > would pull the valve stem through the rim hole. I've never heard of > that before. Has anyone else? Seems like it would it would be a good > idea. Thoughts? > Mark Mc
Jake makes a tool that does exactly that, I think it was the brainchild of ? Basinet (I forget his first name). http://zaphod.smartbrief.com/pics/basinetvalvestemtoolsmall.JPG Z DC A5X A11X

Mark McMullen

tire repair

Post by Mark McMullen » Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:53 am

THANKS Z! I love this list.
> > Jake makes a tool that does exactly that, I think it was the
brainchild
> of ? Basinet (I forget his first name). > > http://zaphod.smartbrief.com/pics/basinetvalvestemtoolsmall.JPG > > Z > DC > A5X > A11X

guymanbro
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Post by guymanbro » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:36 am

Twas I, not Zack, that wrote about breaking both beads... It depends on the tire and the tube. With MT21s and heavy duty (4mm) tubes it's _almost_ impossible to get the new tube in without breaking both beads. I did it last time because I was willing to donate blood over sweat in the attempt. (one bead broken = bloody knuckles, two beads broken = much sweat). Mind you, I have rather large hands so YMMV... dat brooklyn bum
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "zrod73026" wrote: > Do ya really have to break both beads to replace the tube Zach? >

tedfshred
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Post by tedfshred » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:45 am

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark McMullen" wrote:
> Seems like the biggest problem/pain I have with changing
tires/tubes
> is getting the valve stem back into the rim. I talked with a friend > of mind about it and he said his Dad had a tool he would screw into > the valve stem and it had a chain or cable attached to it and it > would pull the valve stem through the rim hole.
I made my own using a nylon screw with threads to match inside valve stem threads. Drill a hole thru long axis, insert a length of weedeater monofilament, melt the ends so it won't pull thru, dremel the head of the screw to fit thru hole in rim. Nylon screw works well cuz it's easy to drill, easy to dremel and won't booger valve stem threads. Tom A15

guymanbro
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Post by guymanbro » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:54 am

A great trick I learned in the pits at the enduros is to put the tube in the tire befoer you start to pry the first bead on. Put the valve stem through the rim and VERY loosely fit the nut. The rim will sort of be at an angle on top of the tire....pictures would be great but I just changed my tube so it may be a while before I get to the next one. dat brooklyn bum The other great tip is in removing a tire... Pop each bead off the side of the rim where it is and push the rim into the center of the tire, then you can just pry the tire right off! --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark McMullen" wrote:
> Seems like the biggest problem/pain I have with changing
tires/tubes
> is getting the valve stem back into the rim. I talked with a friend > of mind about it and he said his Dad had a tool he would screw into > the valve stem and it had a chain or cable attached to it and it > would pull the valve stem through the rim hole. I've never heard of > that before. Has anyone else? Seems like it would it would be a
good
> idea. Thoughts? > Mark Mc > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully > wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 22:48, zrod73026 wrote: > > > > Do ya really have to break both beads to replace the tube Zach? > > > > > > I was changing the tire out, to a MT21... So yes, I did have to > break > > both beads. Anyhow, how do you manange to only break one bead and > get > > that side over the rim to pull the tube out? Inquiring minds want
to
> > know as I haven't run into a motorcycle tire that you'd be able
to
> do > > that with (you need to break both sides so that the far side can > slip > > down into the rim). > > > > Z > > DC > > A5X > > A11X

guymanbro
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Post by guymanbro » Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:00 am

I managed to do it last time but was an old (almost shot) MT21 that I'm using a street tire....nothing like an MT21 slick!!! dat brooklyn bum (don't try this at home kids) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote:
> Anyhow, how do you manange to only break one bead and get > that side over the rim to pull the tube out? Inquiring minds want to > know as I haven't run into a motorcycle tire that you'd be able to
do that with (you need to break both sides so that the far side can slip down into the rim).
> > Z > DC > A5X > A11X

George Basinet
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Post by George Basinet » Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:10 am

Mark, good morning. Check with Jake at http://www.sagebrushmachine.com/. He has just the tool. George Escondido, CA Mark McMullen wrote:
>Seems like the biggest problem/pain I have with changing tires/tubes >is getting the valve stem back into the rim. I talked with a friend >of mind about it and he said his Dad had a tool he would screw into >the valve stem and it had a chain or cable attached to it and it >would pull the valve stem through the rim hole. I've never heard of >that before. Has anyone else? Seems like it would it would be a good >idea. Thoughts? >Mark Mc > > > >- >

mwl_95623
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Post by mwl_95623 » Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:23 pm

With all this talk of tire repair I thought I'd point out that REI-OUTLET.COM has Blackburn Mammoth Mountain bicycle pumps for $4.93. This is a great pump to carry for emergencies. The address is way too long to post here. Just look under Cycling Accessories. Matt
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote: > I managed to do it last time but was an old (almost shot) MT21 that > I'm using a street tire....nothing like an MT21 slick!!! > > dat brooklyn bum (don't try this at home kids) > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully > wrote: > > Anyhow, how do you manange to only break one bead and get > > that side over the rim to pull the tube out? Inquiring minds want to > > know as I haven't run into a motorcycle tire that you'd be able to > do that with (you need to break both sides so that the far side can > slip down into the rim). > > > > Z > > DC > > A5X > > A11X

Robert Diaz
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